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Mother India, You Done It Again – Mission to Mars

LordKrishna

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Liftoff! India's First Mars Probe Launches Toward the Red Planet
http://www.space.com/23464-india-launches-mars-orbiter-mission.html

India's first-ever mission to Mars launched into space today (Nov. 5), beginning the country's first interplanetary mission to explore the solar system.

With a thunderous roar, India's Mars Orbiter Mission rocketed into space at 4:08 a.m. EST (0908 GMT) from the Indian Space Research Organisation's Satish Dhawan Space Centre in Sriharikota, where the local time will be 2:38 p.m. in the afternoon. An ISRO Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle launched the probe on its 300-day trek into orbit around the Red Planet.


India launches rocket in hope of joining elite Mars explorer club
http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/04/world/asia/india-mars-orbiter/

London (CNN) -- India has launched a rocket it hopes will allow it to join an elite group of space explorers to Mars.

The country's space research organization (ISRO) launched its orbiter to the Red Planet on Tuesday -- only NASA, the former Soviet Union and the Europeans have previously been successful in operating probes from Mars.

Japan made an attempt with the Nozomi orbiter in 1998 but it failed to reach the planet and a Chinese probe was lost along with the Russian Phobos-Grunt mission in January 2012. The UK's Beagle 2 probe separated from the European Space Agency's Mars Express orbiter in 2003 but nothing was ever heard from the lander.

It will take 10 months for India's Mars Orbiter Mission to reach the Red Planet after lifting off from the Satish Dhawan Space Centre near Chennai. The probe will explore the planet's surface features, minerals and atmosphere.

[video=youtube;-A_oaL3_1rw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A_oaL3_1rw[/video]


Why India's Mars Mission Is So Much Cheaper Than NASA's
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way...as-mars-mission-is-so-much-cheaper-than-nasas

Former NASA Administrator Daniel Goldin pioneered a "faster, better, cheaper" approach to America's space program, but he would have been hard-pressed to deliver a Mars mission for the bargain-basement price of India's first probe to the red planet, which blasted off Tuesday.

"India's Mars mission, with a budget of $73 million, is far cheaper than comparable missions including NASA's $671 million Maven satellite that is expected to set off for Mars later in November," reports The Wall Street Journal, which is among several publications noting the disparity between the cost of U.S. space missions and India's burgeoning program.

Even the project director of India's Mars orbiter mission has been quick to tout his country's frugality in space:

"This is less than one-tenth of what the U.S. has spent on their Mars mission Maven," S. Arunan told reporters at a pre-launch news conference last week, according to Al-Jazeera, which added that "the cost-effectiveness of the mission is indeed turning out to be the highlight of the project, almost eclipsing the other aspects."

(Arunan's comments may have been directed partly at the critics of India's space program, who The Washington Post says "wonder why the country is spending $74 million on interplanetary travel while millions of its people remain poor and malnourished.")

In any case, there are some good reasons that India can do it cheaper than the U.S., says David Alexander, director of the Rice Space Institute. It basically boils down to parts and labor.

"I think labor is the biggest factor, as well as the complexity of the mission," Alexander tells NPR. "It takes a whole team of engineers."

Those engineers cost much less in India than they do in the U.S. The mean annual income for an aeronautical engineer in the United States is just under $105,000, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. While it's difficult to make direct comparisons, a blog that covers the aerospace industry in India indicates that the higher end of the scale for engineers there is less than $20,000.

Similarly, there's a vast gulf between the pay for electronics engineers. The average electronics engineer in the United States makes a little more than $120,000, according to Salary.com, as opposed to India, where Glassdoor.com says he or she might pull in less than $12,000 a year at a company such as Samsung India.

These figures are approximations — given factors such as the differences in experience levels and fluctuations in currency exchange rates over time — but they give an idea of the disparity. In general, it seems safe to say engineers in India make between one-tenth and one-fifth of what their U.S. counterparts do, in absolute terms.

Alexander says it appears that India's main goal is just getting to Mars, and so the probe is carrying "relatively simple" and therefore not-so-expensive instrumentation, he says.

It's a first try at a very complex mission, one that is orders of magnitude more difficult than India's Chandrayaan-1 probe to the moon five years ago. Mars missions have a history of failure. As Alexander points out, fewer than half of them — launched by the U.S., Russia and the European Space Agency — have been successful.

"What the Indians want to know is: Will it survive? And will it get into orbit?" Alexander says. "I think the hope is that even if it fails, they are going to learn something."

The Associated Press notes that no country has reached Mars on the first try. China's 2011 attempt with Russia to send the Yinghuo-1 probe fizzled when the Russian rocket failed to leave Earth orbit. A 2003 mission by Japan got farther but couldn't get into Mars orbit.

And as Reuters points out, a successful Indian mission will have the effect of "positioning the emerging Asian giant as a budget player in the latest global space race."
 

OldFart

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Wonder how will the Chinese respond to this without losing face. There was a failed attempt before.
 

Leongsam

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Ah Nehs are the best!!!! better than the Ang Mohs. The Chinks are gone case... left far behind. All they can do is make iPhones for their US masters.

Welcome to the new world order.
 

Leongsam

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India's fastest car

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johnny333

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Instead of hiring foreigners to win medals the PAP should have a higher goal Such as the 1st PAP MP to go to space.
 

Asterix

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China's best effort.

Trying to be provocative again
Google will enlighten all to truth
China's one of only three countries
Which have successfully sent
Humans into orbital flight
India planning only
Hopefully can do in 2017
Fourteen years after China


[video=youtube;UNJwwjQ1-y0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNJwwjQ1-y0[/video]
 
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Leongsam

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Trying to be provocative again
Google will enlighten all to truth
China's one of only three countries

The Russians and the Americans put a man in orbit 50 years ago. :rolleyes: The Chinese are more than half a century behind time and they still had to do it on borrowed technology.

The whole chink space program is an embarrassment. The Chinese should be ashamed of themselves.
 

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Funny response from China finally

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-Indias-Mars-mission/articleshow/25271361.cms

China calls for 'joint efforts' after India's Mars mission
PTI | Nov 5, 2013, 07.49 PM IST

BEIJING: As India on Tuesday stole the march over China by launching a mission to Mars, Beijing called for "joint efforts" to ensure peace in outer space.

A rocket carrying the unmanned Mangalyaan orbiter lifted off this afternoon, making India the fourth country after the US, Russia and EU to send probes to Mars. It is due to orbit the red planet in September next year.

"Outer space is shared by the entire mankind. Every country has the right to make peaceful exploration and use of outer space," Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei told a media briefing when he was asked about India's Mars probe.

At the same time, he said, the international community should make "joint efforts to ensure enduring peace and sustainable development of outer space".

Asked whether China is apprehensive of India's space programme, Hong said relations between the two countries are on a path of steady growth. "Political mutual trust between our two countries has increased and mutual cooperation has expanded," he said.

However, the official Chinese media alleged that India is undertaking ambitious ventures to overtake the country's space programme.

The state-run Global Times daily criticised India's space programme, saying it sent a probe to Mars despite having millions of poor people to gain an advantage over China.

"India has an ambitious goal of leading Asia in this area, especially having an advantage over China," it said in an editorial titled "India's space ambition offers clue to China".

"So far, only the US, Russia and EU have succeeded in Mars exploration. Other attempts to reach Mars, including China's Yinghuo-1 mission and Japan's Nozomi mission, have failed.

"As poor as India is, New Delhi managed to carry out its Mars exploration program with a budget of only $73 million, much less than the spending of China and Japan."

India is confronted with a complicated public opinion environment on space development, similar to that which China has to face, it said.

"India is poor, so is China when compared with its Western counterparts. New Delhi has set China as its target, while China views the advanced level of the US and Russia as a reference," it said.

"China has achieved a leap forward in the development of manned space flight and space station technology. It has already been in advance of India," it added.

Besides sending probes to the Moon, China is currently building a space station to rival Russia's Mir, the international space station also used by the US.

"China is building its strategic power as well as developing its livelihood. Becoming a great power is required to manage all-round development. That's why India won't give up developing space, aircraft carrier and nuclear submarines in spite of its poor conditions," the editorial said.
 

Leongsam

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Carries a passenger and works without burning fossil fuels. Truly a green machine. It's about time the world copies the Chinese!

Cheers!

Yeah right. That doesn't stop them from killing themselves with foreign technology. Only the Chinese would put making money ahead of the health of their own children. What a disgusting and depraved nation.


An 8-Year Old Girl Has Become China's Youngest Lung Cancer Patient, And The Doctors Are Blaming Air Pollution

Agence France Presse <time datetime="2013-11-05 09:23:29">Nov 5, 2013, 9:23 AM</time> 1



An eight-year-old girl has become China’s youngest lung cancer patient, reports said, with doctors blaming pollution as the direct cause of her illness.

The girl, whose name was not given, lives near a major road in the eastern province of Jiangsu, said Xinhuanet, the website of China’s official news agency.

It quoted Jie Fengdong, a doctor at Jiangsu Cancer Hospital in Nanjing, as saying she had been exposed to harmful particles and dust over a long period of time.

Lung cancer cases among children are extremely rare, with the average age for diagnosis at about 70, according to the American Cancer Society.

But the incidence of the disease has skyrocketed in China as the country’s rapid development has brought with it deteriorating air quality, particularly in urban areas.

Lung cancer deaths in China have multiplied more than four times over the past 30 years, according to Beijing’s health ministry. Cancer is now the leading cause of death in the smog-ridden capital.

The report of the eight-year-old girl’s diagnosis comes after choking smog enveloped the northeastern city of Harbin two weeks ago, bringing flights and ground transport to a standstill and forcing schools to shut for several days, with visibility in some areas reduced to less than 50 metres.

At the height of the smog, the city’s levels of PM2.5 — the smallest, most dangerous type of airborne particle — reached 1,000 micrograms per cubic metre, 40 times the World Health Organisation’s recommended standard.

High levels of PM2.5 have been linked to health problems including lung cancer and heart disease.

Copyright (2013) AFP. All rights reserved.
 

Asterix

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The Russians and the Americans put a man in orbit 50 years ago. :rolleyes: The Chinese are more than half a century behind time and they still had to do it on borrowed technology.

The whole chink space program is an embarrassment. The Chinese should be ashamed of themselves.

It’s true the West is ahead of China not just in space but on earth
However this was not always the case
For much of human history China was most powerful and wealthy
As Europe wallowed in the Dark Ages

Somewhere along the line Celestial Empire got complacent
Renaissance, Enlightenment slipped it by
Macartney’s embassy was met with a haughty reception
Old Fart is comparable to Qian Long

“Borrowed” technology indeed bear in mind though
Twas the Chinese who invented rocket
Even Ang Mor who colonised entire Indian subcontinent
Managed only spheres of influence in China
Acknowledged yellow contributions to modern weaponry
Flame thrower, handgun, bomb, cruise missile


[video=youtube;jQFRO5iOwLU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQFRO5iOwLU[/video]
 
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Asterix

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Occidental borrowed from Oriental until青出于蓝
After China sorts out its internal issues
Will once again claim rightful place at head of table
But it will take a long time though
No thanks to likes of QianLong, CiXi, Mao and Ah Q


Instead of providing links, please stand on your own two feet and Google these terms:
“Macartney Embassy”; “Qian Long”; “True Story of Ah Q”
 
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cunnosieur

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THIS IS INDIAN DIASPORA AT ITS BEST

1) Millions of Indians living in proverty and slums.

2) Tonnes of rubbish everywhere.

3) Thousands of rapists.

4) Can the rocket reach Mars? (Cheaper, better, faster...but further?)

5) Polluting the galaxyway?

6) Prata and Thosai for Martians?

7) Probing and raping the Martians?
 
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palden

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Instead of hiring foreigners to win medals the PAP should have a higher goal Such as the 1st PAP MP to go to space.
Siao ar. Take millions in pay who want to risk life like that? Cannot get MRT to work properly want to go to space?
 
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