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MOM now rejects FTs with certs from degree mills

bigboss

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Nisha is new singaporean. Why sinkies like you no give chance to singaporeans? :confused: How to punch above our weight?

...how did she become new shitizen? By presenting fake degree or CV to MOM and ICA? Were these slumberers aware she was using fake documents to get her shitizenship?

LSS should take retroactive action to go through all applications submitted to MOM for passes by foreigners and weed them out. If he really meant what he said, he would do it. If he was only cock talked, he would not.

Similarly, based on reports received from MOM, ICA would take action to de-naturalise the new shitizens and charge them for fraud.
 

bigboss

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So many EP and S pass holders from third world countries. What kind of transfer of expertise to Singaporean PMEs? MOM is saying Singaporean PME standard so low and need transfer of expertise from third world EP and S pass holders?

There is no shortage of local talent in the tiny island.

Given the chance and level playing field to excel, sinkies surely boleh. When sinkies arec kicked aside by foreign employers favouring foreign employees, local mana ada chance?

If the head hancho of a bank is an ah neh, his staff are also mostly foreign ah nehs. Check it out at some banks and see the true picture. Why is it so? No local talent or pappies simply don't care?
 

bigboss

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Zorro Lim could have said sorry in Parliament when questioned by Gerald Giam. Now having to do a U-turn.

Saying sorry is to admit the MOM system was cocked up...Making the U-turn is to appease sinkies for the wrongs done by MOM. What should the locals do?

See the GE result and the answer is there if LSS is still around after GE 2016.
 

bigboss

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Back up the talk with action. Review or scrap the FTA signed with India. If India is not happy tell it to kiss your ass.

Until Melville Park condo, Chennai Business Park, the hospitals and certain segments of the Marina Bay Financial Center are rid of 'that kind of people', things are not going to change. India has a pandemic of fake qualifications.

The person who signed off on that FTA needs to be placed under house arrest, tried for high treason and then executed publicly, as a warning to others.

To sell out your own country is high treason. To let another country reap benefits and advantages over your own country in the guise of FTA is also an act of sabotage. However, that FTA would not have been signed without Cabinet approval. So the locals should go for the pappies' balls collectively instead in GE2016.
 

bigboss

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....They need to be gotten rid off,,,

....unless you are able to convince the 60% who supported pappies in last GE that pappies are indeed rotten to the core and should be gotten rid off.....:smile:

When a lot of sinkies are happily waiting for cash handout in August, this task may not be so easy.
 

lifeafter41

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Relevant experience can be easily hyped and made up to look grand and impressive. How is the MOM going to verify it? Asking the 3rd party agencies in India to do the verification of an ah neh applicant is just like asking the fox to guard the chicken coop.

Please lah, MOM. Be more mature and smart when dealing with foreigners from countries where faking CV and other documents is a way of life.

The reviewing and verifications must start with those FTs that are currently employed in govt and stat board.

And even those teaching in the university polytechnics.
Those that are caught with fake should be caned and jailed
杀一儆百
 

Froggy

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These PAP bastards have only one thing in their mind - increase population in any way even accepting fake qualifications. FUCK PAP!
 

Papsmearer

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The sad thing is that they are only looking at this because someone made public that there are unqualified FT out there. This is probably just the tip of the iceberg. The PAP are probably hiding even more problems.

PAP is 20 years behind the times. Now with social media and so many people with abilities to do CSI, they are still stupid to think they will not be found out. In the old days before internet and cyberspace, if the PAP say these people are qualified and the Prostitute press trumpets the FTs, we would never have found out. Today, they cannot hide, but they have not change the way they operate. Whacking Roy for his blogs is a 1980s tactic. But the fact is unlike the "Marxist Conspirators", Roy's point was put out there for all to read and decide for themselves. Its a big change which the PAP can't cope with.
 

Papsmearer

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The reviewing and verifications must start with those FTs that are currently employed in govt and stat board.

And even those teaching in the university polytechnics.
Those that are caught with fake should be caned and jailed
杀一儆百

They don't have to do any reviews at all. If they want to save money, just start a helpline where anyone can call in with tips about colleagues and co-workers with fake degrees or degrees from mills. And if they want, just throw in a $500 reward for every successful tip thrown in. Sinkies will be flooding the call line reporting on their FT colleagues, even if they did not get a reward.
 

Seee3

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They don't have to do any reviews at all. If they want to save money, just start a helpline where anyone can call in with tips about colleagues and co-workers with fake degrees or degrees from mills. And if they want, just throw in a $500 reward for every successful tip thrown in. Sinkies will be flooding the call line reporting on their FT colleagues, even if they did not get a reward.
Confirm no need that $500. Many will be most glad to help.
 

ginfreely

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There is no shortage of local talent in the tiny island.

Given the chance and level playing field to excel, sinkies surely boleh. When sinkies arec kicked aside by foreign employers favouring foreign employees, local mana ada chance?

If the head hancho of a bank is an ah neh, his staff are also mostly foreign ah nehs. Check it out at some banks and see the true picture. Why is it so? No local talent or pappies simply don't care?

Yes the best part is after they takeover the bank jobs due to foreigners hiring foreigners, they turn around and twist to say no local talent. And now MOM concur by saying need transfer of expertise to Singaporean PMEs. What a joke!
 

bhoven

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The reviewing and verifications must start with those FTs that are currently employed in govt and stat board.

And even those teaching in the university polytechnics.
Those that are caught with fake should be caned and jailed
杀一儆百

14 July 2015

In the financial industry, being found to have lied on a curriculum vitae can cost more than just a lost job, it can also mean a lengthy ban from the markets. In the first such case in the territory, the Hong Kong Securities and Futures Commission (SFC) on Monday banned a former Bank Julius Baer & Co. banker for three years after she was found to have lied about her academic credentials in order to secure the job at Bank Julius Baer.

The SFC said Laura Kiang Mang Yi was banned from the market until July 12, 2018. The lengthy ban reflected the fact that Kiang not only made false claims about her education, she also ordered a forged document to support her academic claims. The regulator said a clear message needed to be sent to the market that deceiving an employer by way of a false statement and forged document was not acceptable.

The regulator said Kiang moved to Bank Julius Baer in mid-2013 as an account manager. She was previously employed by Merrill Lynch. As part of her move the Swiss bank ordered a background check on her by an external investigator. His investigation found that while Kiang had been enrolled at New York University, she never did obtain the Master of Arts degree in Educational Psychology that she claimed in her CV to have obtained in May 2008.

When confronted by HR about the investigator's findings, Kiang confirmed that she had graduated but claimed she had lost her graduation certificate. In a state of panic, she subsequently engaged a diploma company to produce a forged NYU diploma to back up her claim. When this was found to be a forgery, she eventually confessed to supplying false claims and a forged document. She would later claim to the SFC that she acted out of "pride and panic" after being confronted by the new employer about her academic credentials.

The case shows the importance the regulator places on accountability and honesty in licensed representatives in Hong Kong. By deliberately lying about her credentials, Kiang was in breach of the Code of Conduct and undermining her fitness and propriety to be a licensed person in the territory.

"It is imperative that regulated persons demonstrate sound character and reliability," the SFC said in its Statement of Disciplinary Action. "Misrepresenting one’s educational qualification and producing a forged degree certificate to an employer are plainly dishonest and call into question his/her character, reliability and fitness and properness to be a regulated person."

Digging down

Kiang on several occasions had a chance to come clean. The external investigator's report, issued on June 10, 2013, said that she did not receive the Master's degree she alleged to have. On July 9, she met with HR and compliance and was confronted with the findings, but insisted they were wrong. She was then asked to request a new certificate from the university. Over the months from July to September, she ordered and later submitted the forged document. Meanwhile, the external investigator confirmed with the university that the document was a forgery. When she still insisted that she had indeed graduated, the HR department eventually had to deal with the university directly. It was told on October 28 that she had not graduated from the university and that the document was a forgery. A week later, she confessed and was dismissed by the bank.

During the SFC's subsequent investigation, she would claim that she thought she had graduated because she had finished all her courses and attended the graduation ceremony. In fact, she was still missing 3 credits to graduate.

"It was plainly dishonest for Kiang to lie to her employer about her education qualification and to provide a forged diploma as proof of a university degree which she had not obtained," the SFC said. "We consider her conduct to be intentional and was done with the deliberate intent to deceive her employer for the purpose of securing her employment."
 
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