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Matex Residence

malpaso

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the prices posted above are desa park city (first and one of the nicest G&G development in KL) launch price for their condo in april of this year.
why is so great about thsi location, i don't know.
Near to CIQ, so what?
you expect to stay in luxury condo and take bus to singapore everyday?
I don't think so.
in that case, if you drive, doesn't matter if you're 100m, 1km, 10km or 30km from CIQ, you will still queue for 1-2 hour every day at the CIQ.
for this price, lots of choices in much nicer areas/cities in KL/penang.
and personally i would be really pissed off too if the marketing pull a stunt like this.
 

shctaw

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shctaw

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NS Global make a lot of people waste precious time buying other condos while waiting for Matex to launch.

And they sell us the condo we book August 2012, the current market price of 2013.

And if market crash, how? This is not acceptable as the way NSG sell their properties present a lot of risk to buyers whom can never lock in the price.
 

shctaw

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So far not many have know about the new price or the changes in size of their units.
 
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jade apple

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NS Global make a lot of people waste precious time buying other condos while waiting for Matex to launch.

And they sell us the condo we book August 2012, the current market price of 2013.

And if market crash, how? This is not acceptable as the way NSG sell their properties present a lot of risk to buyers whom can never lock in the price.

Sad to hear what NSG had done. Hit NSG hard hard until they sell the unit to all the affected buyers at original price and with apologies.
 

streams

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Good luck! Get more ppl, more firing power.. hoot them jia liat jia liat.

with Iskandar all the rage now..should leak this news to straits times... ns global should be taught a lesson for deceiving customers- very unethical! CEA should take action.
 

charis0

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How many bros went down to CEA to complain against NSG?

Will I read about it in the papers tom?

Really feel sorry for all the bros affected. :(
 

Steventlk

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I just got a new price list. The price is up 8-11% while the reduce the size. Double whammy as my RM810 psf unit became RM1k+ psf.

Instead of sitting on 25% margin of safety, it became a price jack to old buyers.

There will be over 100 angry buyers, not just me alone.

If they breach any act, I will take action by bringing up the matter to any authority.

Below is my new price, you can estimate your unit price from my unit.


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Hi guys,

The "rebate given upon TOP" is like a new addition.. This meant that the cash up front (investment outlay) will be more. Effectively, it will by the same margin of the rebate of between 8 - 10%. Easily amount to rm$100k more!

Dun understand how rebate upon TOP works.. Comments?
 

OracleMasia

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Hi guys,

The "rebate given upon TOP" is like a new addition.. This meant that the cash up front (investment outlay) will be more. Effectively, it will by the same margin of the rebate of between 8 - 10%. Easily amount to rm$100k more!

Dun understand how rebate upon TOP works.. Comments?

E.g the units is $1 million.
You will need to pay 20% as cash downpayment i.e $200K during SPA (assume 80% loan financing)
No interest payment till completion as it is DIBS.
The developer will continue to draw the loan as it progress with construction till completion.
At TOP i.e vacant possession by buyer, the developer had received full 100% payment (20% cash payment + loan 80% released by the bank to developer). You are now bearing a loan of $800K.
At this time, the developer will issue a 10% rebate via cheque of $100 directly to you.
Effectively , you had paid $100K cash payment with $800K loan payment to the developer at the end of the arrangement.

Of course, it will be better if the 10% is given upfront. But the developer is smart person not to do that.
 

Steventlk

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E.g the units is $1 million.
You will need to pay 20% as cash downpayment i.e $200K during SPA (assume 80% loan financing)
No interest payment till completion as it is DIBS.
The developer will continue to draw the loan as it progress with construction till completion.
At TOP i.e vacant possession by buyer, the developer had received full 100% payment (20% cash payment + loan 80% released by the bank to developer). You are now bearing a loan of $800K.
At this time, the developer will issue a 10% rebate via cheque of $100 directly to you.
Effectively , you had paid $100K cash payment with $800K loan payment to the developer at the end of the arrangement.

Of course, it will be better if the 10% is given upfront. But the developer is smart person not to do that.

Thks bro for the detailed and concise analysis.

I thought other developments in iskandar is giving the rebate up front? I know ctry gdn for one, does rebate upfront to aid a more pro-investment environment! Never heard of this before... Is this common?

We investors must take note and beware!
 

OracleMasia

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If I compare to the current market price of other new developments in JB Sentral (i.e Sky Pavillion, Tri-tower, Sky 88, WF tower, Marina Bay Suites now, it is still slightly cheaper but a better location. Btw , I doubt midview will be cheaper than this.
 

kopikong99

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Sad to hear what NSG had done. Hit NSG hard hard until they sell the unit to all the affected buyers at original price and with apologies.

Start grouping together and mass email bombed nsg to get them to be accountable for those bookings at original price and not wasting investor's time and opportunity cost. Really hopeless if they fail to get the developer to honour all those bookings.

Teega almost went that same way, ie. want to change the selling price on the option to purchase after signing by purchasers. Si many complaints that they agreed to hold prices as promised.
 

wolverine23

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Collecting SGD5k upfront commission just from buyers alone is huge money.

If they cannot guarantee the price, why would buyers commit? They think investors are stupid?

And they are still holding seminars for all types of Malaysian properties now...

Start grouping together and mass email bombed nsg to get them to be accountable for those bookings at original price and not wasting investor's time and opportunity cost. Really hopeless if they fail to get the developer to honour all those bookings.

Teega almost went that same way, ie. want to change the selling price on the option to purchase after signing by purchasers. Si many complaints that they agreed to hold prices as promised.
 
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OracleMasia

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As warren buffett said : You can't struck a good deal with a bad person.

I think this is very true.

UMLAND in the past is quite honourable.

Recently, with capitaland no longer as shareholder and change in CEO, their practice changes.

As for NSG, their acts already speak for itself.

In business, it is better to lose a lot of money than lose a shred of reputation. But it seem they does not mind at all.

People for bad reputation are hard to forget.
 

OracleMasia

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NS Global make a lot of people waste precious time buying other condos while waiting for Matex to launch.

And they sell us the condo we book August 2012, the current market price of 2013.

And if market crash, how? This is not acceptable as the way NSG sell their properties present a lot of risk to buyers whom can never lock in the price.

The only way is to get them to make good on their promises via media.

I can't imagine how badly UMLAND reputation will be hurt if an articles about this is publised at the edge malaysia or starproperty news.
 

invest888

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As warren buffett said : You can't struck a good deal with a bad person.

I think this is very true.

UMLAND in the past is quite honourable.

Recently, with capitaland no longer as shareholder and change in CEO, their practice changes.

As for NSG, their acts already speak for itself.

In business, it is better to lose a lot of money than lose a shred of reputation. But it seem they does not mind at all.

People for bad reputation are hard to forget.

Hi OracleMasia, agree with you. Malaysia don't seem to change much after Mahathir time. This guy short change the Singapore stock buyer back in 1998, so it is not surprise to see "some" property developer and their agent doing this type of unethical act. Just my observation.
 

wiseguy

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The ethics of NSG is dubious. Even for booking of BIW (Brunsfield), NSG did not offer state levy included, whereas it is waived by the Msian mktg agents!! Those buyers who booked in SG through NSG has been shortchanged!?
 

Newbie11

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which mktg agent is honest? u try buying from FEO. see if u get same package from different agents
 
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