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MALAYSIAN Airlines flight en route to China is missing.
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Flight MH370 will never be found.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/01/opinion/goyer-search-for-flight/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/01/opinion/goyer-search-for-flight/index.html
‘Good night Malaysian three seven zero’: Confusion as new version of flight 370 final words is released
PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 01 April, 2014, 10:05am
UPDATED : Tuesday, 01 April, 2014, 11:14pm
Danny Lee [email protected]
Royal New Zealand Air Force P3 Orion captain, Wing Commander Rob Shearer's looks out of the window of his aircraft while searching for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 off Perth, Australia on March 31, 2014. Photo: EPA
Malaysia has released a new version of the final words supposedly spoken in the cockpit of missing Malaysia Airlines flight 370, and conceded that authorities are unsure whether they were spoken by the pilot or co-pilot.
"Good night Malaysian three seven zero"; was the last communication before all contact with the plane was lost and not "all right, good night" as previously stated, embattled Malaysian authorities said last night.
"We would like to confirm that the last conversation in the transcript between the air traffic controller and the cockpit is at 0119 (Malaysian Time) and is 'Good night Malaysian three seven zero';" the Ministry of Transport said in a statement.
The statement made no mention of words previously released to the media by Malaysian officials.
Civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman said on March 12 the last words heard from the cockpit of flight 370 was "all right, good night".
The Ministry of Transport released the revised transcript after government officials and the airline came under sustained pressure at a press conference in Kuala Lumpur to clarify the final communication air traffic control had with the plane.
The last known words of the pilots have come under intense scrutiny since the Boeing 777 jet went missing on March 8, as investigators probe for unusual signs.
Pilots and aviation experts had previously suggested the casual sign-off as a red-flag. The new, formal acknowledgement is a traditional form of communication used by airline pilots.
The last contact with the Boeing 777 took place at 01.19am as the plane was being handed over from Malaysian to Vietnamese airspace.
The voice record is undergoing forensic examination to determine who among pilot or co-pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53 or Fariq Abdul Hamid, 27, spoke with air traffic controllers last.
Officials have narrowed down the search to the southern Indian Ocean where its journey is said to have "ended".
Next-of-kin of the flight will be shown the full transcript of the conversation, officials said, as angry Chinese families demand more information and transparency from the investigation.
Relatives will meet with high-level Malaysian officials, aviation and technical experts linked to the disappearance of flight 370, officials announced last night.
Malaysia better come clean...people are getting suspicious now!
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Malaysians lose patience with Chinese fury and scorn over missing flight
PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 02 April, 2014, 3:53am
UPDATED : Wednesday, 02 April, 2014, 3:53am
Satish Cheney in Kuala Lumpur
Chinese relatives pray at the Lido Hotel in Beijing. Photo: Reuters
At the coffee shop where an old man flipped some roti canai, Mohammad Noor could not contain his anger another moment.
"If China is so good, why don't they just take over and find the plane," said the 30-year-old petrol kiosk employee. His friends nodded in approval. "I don't think even Singapore could have done a better job."
Malaysians want the Chinese to know something: they, too, lost people when the Malaysia Airlines flight vanished. And they want the insults to cease.
For more than three weeks, residents and relatives in the besieged nation have endured worldwide scorn as the hunt continues for flight MH370. Chinese officials and relatives have accused Malaysian officials of withholding data, botching the investigation, even lying about the fact that the plane had ditched into the Indian Ocean.
Malaysian citizens, media and government officials have quietly seethed, and have heard enough. They want an end to what they see as a vulgar display of superiority and an overreaction by the Chinese over the missing airliner.
At the Everly Hotel in Putrajaya, the site of an official briefing for the passengers' relatives, Gurusamy Subramaniam was there to learn more about the fate of his 34-year-old son, who was aboard the flight. He had quietly endured Chinese complaints. But TV footage last week of Chinese relatives protesting outside the Malaysian embassy in Beijing was the last straw, he said.
"What's the point? Will violence or protests bring the passengers back?" the 60-year-old said in Tamil. He admitted he had trouble sleeping. "All of us are suffering inside in our hearts."
On Sunday, a new group of relatives from China arrived in the Malaysian capital and staged their own press conference at the Holiday Villa, an expensive hotel in Subang. They unfurled Chinese state flags and banners and condemned Malaysians.
"Let me ask you something,'' said a Malaysian government official. "Which country do you think will allow others from another country to come and let them stay in a great hotel and allow them to throw insults? We've been very nice already. I hope they realise that."
Malaysian media, especially the local Chinese press, has published op-ed pieces condemning Chinese actions, but some newspapers have also asked readers to consider the bigger picture.
Social media has buzzed as Malaysians question the motives behind the Chinese behaviour.
James Chin, a professor of political science at the Malaysian campus of Monash University, said Malaysians initially had been sympathetic towards the Chinese.
"But marching to the Malaysian embassy was the turning point," he said. "It's hypocrisy. The Chinese won't dare do anything like this against their own government, which is one of the most opaque in the world."
But most analysts are confident the fallout will not continue in the long term. For Malaysia especially, there is too much at stake; China is a key trading partner and rich source of tourists. Najib Razak, Malaysia's prime minister, has just launched a 4 billion ringgit (HK$9.5 billion) development in Langkawi aimed in part at Chinese tourists.
Malaysians lose patience with Chinese fury and scorn over missing flight
PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 02 April, 2014, 3:53am
UPDATED : Wednesday, 02 April, 2014, 3:53am
Satish Cheney in Kuala Lumpur
Chinese relatives pray at the Lido Hotel in Beijing. Photo: Reuters
At the coffee shop where an old man flipped some roti canai, Mohammad Noor could not contain his anger another moment.
"If China is so good, why don't they just take over and find the plane," said the 30-year-old petrol kiosk employee. His friends nodded in approval. "I don't think even Singapore could have done a better job."
Malaysians want the Chinese to know something: they, too, lost people when the Malaysia Airlines flight vanished. And they want the insults to cease.
For more than three weeks, residents and relatives in the besieged nation have endured worldwide scorn as the hunt continues for flight MH370. Chinese officials and relatives have accused Malaysian officials of withholding data, botching the investigation, even lying about the fact that the plane had ditched into the Indian Ocean.
Malaysian citizens, media and government officials have quietly seethed, and have heard enough. They want an end to what they see as a vulgar display of superiority and an overreaction by the Chinese over the missing airliner.
At the Everly Hotel in Putrajaya, the site of an official briefing for the passengers' relatives, Gurusamy Subramaniam was there to learn more about the fate of his 34-year-old son, who was aboard the flight. He had quietly endured Chinese complaints. But TV footage last week of Chinese relatives protesting outside the Malaysian embassy in Beijing was the last straw, he said.
"What's the point? Will violence or protests bring the passengers back?" the 60-year-old said in Tamil. He admitted he had trouble sleeping. "All of us are suffering inside in our hearts."
On Sunday, a new group of relatives from China arrived in the Malaysian capital and staged their own press conference at the Holiday Villa, an expensive hotel in Subang. They unfurled Chinese state flags and banners and condemned Malaysians.
"Let me ask you something,'' said a Malaysian government official. "Which country do you think will allow others from another country to come and let them stay in a great hotel and allow them to throw insults? We've been very nice already. I hope they realise that."
Malaysian media, especially the local Chinese press, has published op-ed pieces condemning Chinese actions, but some newspapers have also asked readers to consider the bigger picture.
Social media has buzzed as Malaysians question the motives behind the Chinese behaviour.
James Chin, a professor of political science at the Malaysian campus of Monash University, said Malaysians initially had been sympathetic towards the Chinese.
"But marching to the Malaysian embassy was the turning point," he said. "It's hypocrisy. The Chinese won't dare do anything like this against their own government, which is one of the most opaque in the world."
But most analysts are confident the fallout will not continue in the long term. For Malaysia especially, there is too much at stake; China is a key trading partner and rich source of tourists. Najib Razak, Malaysia's prime minister, has just launched a 4 billion ringgit (HK$9.5 billion) development in Langkawi aimed in part at Chinese tourists.
hear hear. PRCs think every country is weaker than them.
By the way they are better off dead.
only a hundred plus. not all were PRCs.
About 3/4 of the plane..enough!!..but Malaysia really boleh!..Vanishing Mongolian Woman, now Vanishing Plane....boleh!
have they started looking in Gobi desert?
Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 probe classified as a criminal investigation: WSJ
Yahoo! and agencies April 2, 2014, 12:14 pm
The investigation into the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has been classified as a criminal investigation, according to reports in the Wall Street Journal.
The newspaper claimed that Khalid Abu Bakar said police had taken more than 170 statements for the ongoing probe into the March 8 disappearance of the Boeing 777 and had now been classified as a criminal investigation.
However, the police chief said findings from the investigation wouldn't be revealed soon because of fears it may impact a later prosecution.
"We may not even know real cause," Bakar was quoted saying, adding that an investigation into the MH370's captain's home-made flight simulator remained inconclusive.
Hard drives from the flight simulator were handed over to US authorities, including the FBI, after it was discovered that information had been deleted.
Malaysia Police Inspector General, Khalid Abu Bakar speaks during a press conference at Kuala Lumpur International Airport. Photo: AP.
Nothing found in flight MH370's cockpit transcript
Malaysia revealed the full radio communications with the pilots of its missing flight Tuesday, but the routine exchanges shed no light on the mystery as an Indian Ocean search for wreckage bore on with no end in sight.
The previously unreleased conversations between MH370's pilots and air traffic controllers had been the subject of much speculation as suspicions have focused on whether one or both of its pilots deliberately diverted the plane on March 8 with 239 people aboard.
But they revealed nothing about what happened aboard the ill-fated jet.
Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah with his home flight simulator. Photo: Youtube
"There is no indication of anything abnormal in the transcript," a Malaysian government statement said of the 43 separate transmissions over nearly 54 minutes, which were thick with air-traffic and navigational jargon.
Hours earlier, Australia counselled against expectations of quick success in the difficult task of recovering the Malaysia Airlines plane's "black box" for clues into what might have happened to the jet.
Despite an extensive multinational search in remote Indian Ocean waters southwest of Perth where Malaysia believes the plane went down, nothing has been found that would indicate a crash site.
Retired Australian air chief marshal Angus Houston, who is heading a new coordination centre in Perth, called it the most challenging search and rescue operation he had ever seen.
"I say that because the starting point whenever you do a search and rescue is the last known position of the vehicle or aircraft. In this particular case, the last known position was a long, long way from where the aircraft appears to have gone," he said.
He added the search -- 10 planes and nine ships from several countries took part Tuesday -- "could drag on for a long time."
Malaysia believes the flight, en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, was deliberately diverted by someone on board and flown for hours before crashing.
Pilot Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53, and co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid, 27, have come under intense scrutiny, especially amid conflicting reports about the final words in the cockpit and whether they indicated trouble or an intent to commandeer MH370.
But the transcript gave no hint of either as Malaysian air traffic controllers bid the plane "good night", and instructed the pilots to contact controllers in Vietnam, over which the plane was due to fly.
An object is spotted in the Indian Ocean as searchers desperately try to find signs of missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370. Photo: Getty Images
- Black box -
In the final entry from just after 1:19 am one of the MH370 pilots responded with an innocuous:"Good night, Malaysian Three Seven Zero".
Malaysia Airlines had said previously the last words were believed uttered by First Officer Fariq, but the statement said the ongoing investigation was yet to confirm that.
Shortly after the final message, communications were cut and the Boeing 777 vanished from civilian radar.
Tuesday's developments meant another day of frustration for anguished families desperate for firm information on what happened to their loved ones.
Excess fuel is dumped from a nozzle protruding from the left wing of a Royal Australian Air Force AP-3C Orion aircraft before landing. Photo: Reuters.
The battery-powered signal from the plane's black box -- which records flight data and cockpit voice communications that could indicate what happened to the plane -- usually lasts only about 30 days.
Australian vessel Ocean Shield, fitted with a US-supplied black box detector, left Perth on Monday for the search zone but is three day's sail away.
Australian Defence Minister David Johnston admitted there was only a slim chance the black box would be found since the crash location remains unknown.
A distraught relative of a passenger on the missing flight sits near a poster for MH370. Photo: AP
- 'About one week left' -
"We've got about a week (left), but it depends on the temperature of the water and water depth and pressure as to how long the battery power will last," he told Australian radio.
Authorities are scouring a massive expanse of ocean for debris. If found, they plan to analyse recent weather patterns and ocean currents to track back to where the plane went down.
Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak is expected in Perth on Wednesday to tour the air base being used as a staging post.
Malaysia's handling of the crisis, marked by piecemeal and occasionally contradictory information, has been widely questioned, especially by disconsolate relatives of the 153 Chinese nationals aboard.
Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force's P-3C Orion aircraft sits on the tarmac after arriving at Royal Australian Air Force Pearce Base to help with search operations for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370. Photo: AP.
Many of them have alleged incompetence or even a cover-up by Malaysia, straining ties between the two countries, but the rhetoric has eased off in recent days.
A survey released Tuesday by Merdeka Center, Malaysia's leading polling firm, said less than half of Malaysians -- 43 percent -- were satisfied with the government's handling of the crisis, while 50 percent were dissatisfied.
The question was posed between March 13-20, before many fed-up Malaysians began to hit back against the foreign criticism, particularly from China.
International Air Travel Association (IATA) head Tony Tyler said, in the wake of MH370, the industry should implement improvements in how aircraft are tracked in flight.
"We cannot let another aircraft simply vanish," he said in a statement at an aviation conference in Kuala Lumpur.
When they do finally find the Plane....it may not even have a BLACK BOX...cut costs, or when doing maintenance...'brother!..have a smoke...doing maintenance forgot to load back"...they are doing a ping!, ping!...BB reply somewhere from a maintenance hanger, somewhere in bolehland...ha ha ha , malu-lah!.. that is why...dare not mention..
It's good to see m&ds getting fucked.
There are m&ds in Singapore.
Later i will zap u for quoting huge chunk of posts repeatedly, else u think that i talk only but no action.
You can continue to do so as it does not piss me off because it's obvious that PAP IB clones do that to topics they dislike (as seen in the case of uglyloser) and i will continue to zap u.
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Can close this thread until got new confirm developments?
Afterall, no sinkees casualties. Let the m&ds and tiongs fight among themselves.
Afterall, no sinkees casualties. Let the m&ds and tiongs fight among themselves.
If goodbye Malaysia 370 then it's relevant.
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