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Malaysia Educated Now - High Speed Rail to stop at JB

xingguy

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Bunch of clowns working at ministry of transport. Clarify first before issuing public statement lah

They are too eager to turn up the GE vibe to clarify and check.

Source: CNA

Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission says CEO misquoted on High Speed Rail terminus

Singapore's Ministry of Transport earlier said it was "surprised" that Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission had said in an interview that it preferred to terminate the upcoming high-speed rail terminus in JB. However, the commission says its CEO was misquoted.

POSTED: 19 Jun 2015 17:06 UPDATED: 19 Jun 2015 21:44

SINGAPORE: Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission (SPAD) late Friday (Jun 19) said that its CEO was misquoted in an interview pubished by a Malaysian business paper, that it preferred to terminate the upcoming high-speed rail (HSR) terminus at the two nations' existing CIQ (customs, immigration and quarantine) complex in Johor Bahru.

In an interview with The Edge Malaysia published on Monday, SPAD's CEO Mohd Nur Ismal Mohd Kamal was asked to elaborate on how the final station on Singapore's end is "an issue".

"We would prefer to terminate the line at the existing CIQ. However, Singapore wants it to terminate in Jurong East and understandably so," he said. "Just as we want to develop Bandar Malaysia, they want to use the HSR to drive development in Jurong East.

"From our perspective, by terminating it at the CIQ, the entire project will be within our borders and we will have more control of it. This will be closer to Orchard Road than Jurong East," The Edge quoted him as saying. "But of course, we have to weigh Singapore's economic and commercial considerations as well to come to an agreement."

However, SPAD said that he was "regretably misquoted", and instead said: "We would have preferred to terminate the line at the CBD area. This will be closer to Orchard Road than Jurong East. However this is a joint project for the benefit of both countries and hence there has to be give and take. For example, if we had wanted to terminate (sic) at the CIQ, the entire project will be within our borders and we will have more control. But this would not have been optimal and neither country would have benefited as much."

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Singapore's Ministry of Transport (MOT) had earlier released a statement stating it was "surprised" at the initial comment that indicated preference for the HSR terminus to be at Johor Bahru's CIQ complex.
In May, leaders of Singapore and Malaysia announced that the HSR terminus in Singapore will be located at Jurong East.

"Our understanding is that Malaysia views the commercial premise of the Kuala Lumpur-Singapore HSR project, and with which we agree, as being based on a direct connection between the two city centres. Terminating the HSR in Johor Bahru will not achieve this objective," said MOT's spokesperson.

HSR OPERATING MODEL IN DISCUSSION

MOT said both Singapore and Malaysia are in discussion on the HSR's commercial and operating models. Singapore has proposed that the domestic transit HSR services, which stop at six stations in Malaysia, be operated separately from express non-stop services between Kuala Lumpur and Singapore.

"This will give Malaysia autonomy over the domestic transit services to serve Malaysia's domestic needs and benefit Malaysia," said the transport ministry.

Mr Nur Ismal had told The Edge: "Because the additional stations will benefit Malaysia more, Singapore is not so keen on the transit line. However, just as we must take its economic and commercial considerations into account, it must also take care of us. There has to be give and take so that both parties can benefit."

He added that the cost of the six stations is "very small", less than 10 per cent of the entire HSR project.

NO AGREEMENT ON HIGH BRIDGE ACROSS SINGAPORE, JB: MOT

As for the Johor Bahru-Singapore Rapid Transit System Link, MOT said Malaysia has not confirmed its terminus location. Singapore's terminus will be located at Woodlands North station on the upcoming Thomson-East Coast MRT line.

MOT added that both countries will only be able to determine the type and alignment of the crossing after both terminus locations are confirmed.

"We have yet to receive official confirmation of the location of Malaysia’s RTS terminus in Johor Bahru. As such, contrary to what was said in the Malaysian media by Johor State Exco for Public Works, Rural and Regional Development Committee Chairman Datuk Ir. Haji Hasni bin Haji Mohammad, there is no agreement with Malaysia that the crossing will be a high bridge," said MOT.



Note: This story was updated at 9.30pm on Jun 19 following a statement to the media from SPAD

- CNA/xq


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Confuseous

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Sg held-hostage
This time, Malaysia outsmarted us

It's all about corruption.
If SG involved, the mudlanders cannot/don't know how to ask for the usual kickbacks which flows down.
Najib would have extracted his personal pile upfront for agreeing, so he won't give a shit. He knows his days are numbered.
If the govt is "surprised" then it is obvious the still don't know shit about dealing with Malaysia.
 

steffychun

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They do not want Singapore to profit/ benefit through better infrastructure linking to Malay land.
Big land mass wins this round of politics.


JUN 19, 20155:53 PM

SINGAPORE'S Ministry of Transport on Friday expressed "surprise" by a recent statement by Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission to have the high-speed rail terminate at Johor Bahru, instead of Jurong East.

Singapore said that in 2013, both parties agreed to build the high-speed rail (HSR) link between Kuala Lumpur and Singapore, and studies have been carried out by both countries.

http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/tra...-of-high-speed-rail-terminating-at-jb-amended

Why JB? Terminate it for good.
 

laksaboy

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They do not want Singapore to profit/ benefit through better infrastructure linking to Malay land.
Big land mass wins this round of politics.

Whatever Singapore benefits or profits doesn't trickle down to me, so I couldn't care less. :cool:
 

frenchbriefs

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anything that malaysia does benefits us more than it benefits them,look at singapore,we are at our limit already how much more can we grow?how many more shopping malls can we build?how many more roads can we widen?how many more highways can we build?how many more people can we cram into this tiny island?this country is already saturated and good game.the PAP are now desperate enough to consider moving our water reserviours underground to make more space for christ sakes.what precious little resources we have we are fighting over like beasts and wild animals.think about it 100k to drive a car,half a million for a 100 sqm pigeon hole?rent prices are skyhigh cost of living is also skyhigh,taxi fares increase more than 100 percent over the last 10 years,one meal at kfc now cost nearly 10 bucks almost the same as australia why?because of sky high rent.

why do we pay 100k just for the priviledge to drive?is it because cars are really so rare technology and luxury?people in third world countries like russia can own a car for a few thousands,simply because of artificial constrains on this island.just 20 km away up north,mudlaysians are driving around in proton sagas and toyotas for less than 10k,a luxury that more than half of singaporeans cannot even dream of for the duration of their entire miserable life.why do we force ourselves to live in such a bubble of constrain?where simple things in life cost a bomb?everything in singapore is 10 times more expensive than it has to be,because supply is limited and demand far outweighs supply.and then we spend our whole lives working and clawing and fighting with each other just to pay for these over inflated skyhigh prices and make others rich!!!!singapore has longest working hours in the world,over 2200 hours a year just to play the game of Monopoly run by PAP where PAP owns everything!!!!
 
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laksaboy

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anything that malaysia does benefits us more than it benefits them,look at singapore,we are at our limit already how much more can we grow?how many more shopping malls can we build?how many more roads can we widen?how many more highways can we build?how many more people can we cram into this tiny island?this country is already saturated and good game.the PAP are now desperate enough to consider moving our water reserviours underground to make more space for christ sakes.what precious little resources we have we are fighting over like beasts and wild animals.think about it 100k to drive a car,half a million for a 100 sqm pigeon hole?rent prices are skyhigh cost of living is also skyhigh,taxi fares increase more than 100 percent over the last 10 years,one meal at kfc now cost nearly 10 bucks almost the same as australia why?because of sky high rent.

why do we pay 100k just for the priviledge to drive?is it because cars are really so rare technology and luxury?people in third world countries like russia can own a car for a few thousands,simply because of artificial constrains on this island.just 20 km away up north,mudlaysians are driving around in proton sagas and toyotas for less than 10k,a luxury that more than half of singaporeans cannot even dream of for the duration of their entire miserable life.why do we force ourselves to live in such a bubble of constrain?where simple things in life cost a bomb?everything in singapore is 10 times more expensive than it has to be,because supply is limited and demand far outweighs supply.and then we spend our whole lives working and clawing and fighting with each other just to pay for these over inflated skyhigh prices and make others rich!!!!singapore has longest working hours in the world,over 2200 hours a year just to play the game of Monopoly run by PAP where PAP owns everything!!!!

And god forbid the Malaysian govt also does a bit of its own cost-benefit analysis, and reconsidering a potentially crappy deal. This is something the SG govt would never do, right? :rolleyes:
 

Tuayapeh

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Now the toll fee for entering Malaysia have increased of course they want more people to go into Malaysia that's why the station must be at JB mah :wink:
 

frenchbriefs

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And god forbid the Malaysian govt also does a bit of its own cost-benefit analysis, and reconsidering a potentially crappy deal. This is something the SG govt would never do, right? :rolleyes:

it will never occur to the PAP because we have always operate under the mentality of prostituting ourselves to other countries at a vast disadvantage deal,like signing CECA agreement with shitland and bananaland and investment agreements with china,for the slightest chance of smelling the sweet sweet moolah in exchange for putting up with a million cockroaches and economic refugees.
 

blissquek

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Malaysia has just given the pap the proverbial middle finger. But pap can't do anything, they are only programmed to screw sinkies.


PAP programmed to screw Sinkie..???

In turn, i think the Malaysian going to screw us on this HSR..

Off and On. they will signal and stretch their hands out for more money from Pinky.

Pinky, remember...what you do to others, others will do it back to u..

It is retribution in its simplest form....
 

tanwahtiu

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FAP can only stick to building HBD and MRT circle round 700sqkm of tiny dot.

A small island can control their own people and they did well, outside this scope they are useless their big neighbors see them no up.

If SAF is build for defense go see a doctor. For attack neighbors to grab more land should be it.
 

syed putra

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We can design the tracks to serve both interests. The track can branch out after Batu pahat, one line to jurong and another to jb. Simple solution. No need to fuss. Everybody happy.
And if I may add, maybe a commuter track be added alongside the one going to jurong from Batu pahat and space for this on the bridge across johore straits. Its for this who commute from iskandar to Singapore.
 

eatshitndie

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We can design the tracks to serve both interests. The track can branch out after Batu pahat, one line to jurong and another to jb. Simple solution. No need to fuss. Everybody happy.

don't forget batam....too. very important for rail workers to have r&r after project is over.
 
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