all these heckling from just distract from some of the real problems that WP face ...
and WP most incisive critic has been lockeliberal..... he pinpoint the real issue that can bring down WP...
media and PR wise, WP are still out of touch, their default mode is to shut up
OutReach wise, still old school, it works now but for how long more, do they wan to be a ruling party or just a grassroot party
how many temple dinners to attend and how hammers to sell to make up for mistakes in parliament.... this is just wasting the volunteers and members times.... the MP need to up their game, period
Party is still not professional or institutionalised
accountibility yes, but at my own discretion, my way or the highway... liddat, how to connect with core support, online and neutrals
this is probably lockeliberal best post and summarise the problems WP face ....
1st of all I think their LAs deserve to be fired , secondly, I dunno if there is some kind of internal policy committee because unlike the GE, there is no overrching theme, every1 just seem to talk what they want...
the part about fine-tuning the sectors based on specific industries for the Foreign Worker Dependency is most glaring, it is clear CSM and LTK were talking for the sake of talking.... they have no idea what they wan to tighten or loosen.... that is why Tharman can rebut them so effectively
2ndly, the problem with CSM is not in asking for more social spending, this is dumb in a budget where social spending was increase and vikram is dumb in whacking him, why didnt he whack denise phua for proposing higher tax ...... the bitch really deserve a slap
The problem with CSM is he didnt identified which area need more spending and how money can be better spent, his LA and him obviously never do his homework
are we not spending enough on education and training, why is he talking for the sake of talking where are the deficient areas???
WP need to move from the duet mode to a choir mode , if they cant even coordinate 6 person... how to form shadow cabinet???
these are the real issue that WP have to grapple with ... not issues on integrity ,,, last world voters as examplified by the forumers here have very low standard, they dun care bout integrity ... dats why GMS can get 40%
GMS himself have no integrity.... he say he dunno about YSL then later say he has been dropping hints all along...
in short WP need to up their game in parliament or they will lose Aljunied...
and WP most incisive critic has been lockeliberal..... he pinpoint the real issue that can bring down WP...
media and PR wise, WP are still out of touch, their default mode is to shut up
Dear Scroobal,
its now clear that there was only a "stonewall" because he did not come clean and beg for mercy and then do a Jack Neo to the public.
Locke
Dear TFBH,
The "WP stonewall " is a page straight from the Low Book of media relations. Even before GE 2011, Low as the sole WP representative had a reputation of being uncontactable for comments when he wanted it so.
When the party was LOW and LOW was the party, it made certain sense. It makes less sense with six opposition MPs and the first Malay Opposition MP for donkey years. Politicians live and die by the media. The relationship between the media and the WP is not a one way street as dictated by the wishes and wants of the WP depending on the occasion and the sooner they wake up to that fact, the better it is for them,
The stonewall exists or is in place for no other reason than to protect Yaw in case someone decides to redeem him at a later stage. Is the WP immune to the normal dictates of the media game ? Can they afford even a 2% drop in support for the party if this issue is not dealt with correctly ?
Locke
Dear Sad
The WP has tried to learn fr the SDP about professionalism in media and website management but has had hits and misses.
Locke
OutReach wise, still old school, it works now but for how long more, do they wan to be a ruling party or just a grassroot party
Dear Scroo,
Honestly it is my belief that there is a strong consensus that if they attend enough temple dinners, sell enough hammers, knock on enough doors etc etc, that these tactics are enough to overcome or limit whatever happens at the strategic or CEC level.
The belief strongly held that door to door vista , dinners, funerals, temple dinners. etc etc can overcome any amount of bad press by a hostile media. That belief is built into its leaders, its candidates and its leaders even when many should know better based on their professional backgrounds.
Locke
how many temple dinners to attend and how hammers to sell to make up for mistakes in parliament.... this is just wasting the volunteers and members times.... the MP need to up their game, period
Party is still not professional or institutionalised
Dear Scroo,
The "LTK" philosophy remains , that " One should have no expectations from the party, One should die for the party , and that any bone or responsibility is a gift and not a right ". In so much as that attitude produces loyalty and discipline it also produces a load of lemmings willing to go over the edge if the wrong advice is given or read by those at the top.
And when the proverbial shit hits the fan, the party reaction as a whole reverts to its tried and tested MO. " Shut Up and Disclose Nothing ". If loyalty is valued above all else then more rocky roads lie ahead. YSL might have been loyal to the party but how far SHOULD the party remain loyal to him ? Should it in any way risk AJ to save him ?
Locke
accountibility yes, but at my own discretion, my way or the highway... liddat, how to connect with core support, online and neutrals
this is probably lockeliberal best post and summarise the problems WP face ....
Dear Char,
The problem is primarily three fold, personal, policy and presentation,
Personel, As the party grows in personalities and personnel, Managing who says what, and how becomes critical, I would put the current speeches as failing because of an inability to tie six separate. Voices around one entral theme.
policy, Seriously screwed up process when Gerald got hammered by TCH. The internal mechanisms are breaking down when coping with larger numbers and voices. As it stands there currently does not seem to be a back stop or back check on what opposition MPs say and how they say it.
personalities. everyone is playing good cop and there is no bad cop, granted the PAP will never ever be nice to you but there is still more room for personalities and presentation to come through
1st of all I think their LAs deserve to be fired , secondly, I dunno if there is some kind of internal policy committee because unlike the GE, there is no overrching theme, every1 just seem to talk what they want...
the part about fine-tuning the sectors based on specific industries for the Foreign Worker Dependency is most glaring, it is clear CSM and LTK were talking for the sake of talking.... they have no idea what they wan to tighten or loosen.... that is why Tharman can rebut them so effectively
2ndly, the problem with CSM is not in asking for more social spending, this is dumb in a budget where social spending was increase and vikram is dumb in whacking him, why didnt he whack denise phua for proposing higher tax ...... the bitch really deserve a slap
The problem with CSM is he didnt identified which area need more spending and how money can be better spent, his LA and him obviously never do his homework
Chen Show Mao said:We need to invest more in our education in schools, in training our workers for the job so they can do a better job, and in empowering our workers on the job so they can make the job better.
We can also invest more in other aspects of a Singaporean’s life and that of her family — social security, public housing, healthcare, education, and infrastructure and the environment, so that she becomes a more productive worker.
are we not spending enough on education and training, why is he talking for the sake of talking where are the deficient areas???
WP need to move from the duet mode to a choir mode , if they cant even coordinate 6 person... how to form shadow cabinet???
these are the real issue that WP have to grapple with ... not issues on integrity ,,, last world voters as examplified by the forumers here have very low standard, they dun care bout integrity ... dats why GMS can get 40%
GMS himself have no integrity.... he say he dunno about YSL then later say he has been dropping hints all along...
in short WP need to up their game in parliament or they will lose Aljunied...