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Indonesia is a fence sitter on the Russia–Ukraine crisis

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Indonesia is a fence sitter on the Russia–Ukraine crisis​

20 April 2022
Author: Yohanes Sulaiman, Jenderal Achmad Yani University

On 25 February 2022, Indonesia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs released a statement describing the attack on Ukraine as unacceptable — without directly mentioning Russia as the aggressor. Indonesia’s stance was unpopular and critics lambasted its unwillingness to take a stand to censure or sanction Russia.

Demonstrators from Timor Indonesia Alliance hold a protest in front of the Russian Embassy demanding for peace in Ukraine, Jakarta, Indonesia, 10 March 2022 (Photo: Reuters/Donal Husni).


Even though Indonesia later adopted the UN General Assembly’s resolution condemning the invasion and demanding that Russia immediately withdraw, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs stressed that Indonesia was ‘pushing for resolutions that contain the aspirations of all parties in a balanced manner’. Why is Indonesia refusing to directly call out Russia’s actions in Ukraine?

Analysts attributed this ambiguous stance to Indonesia’s desire to prevent antagonising Russia to attract more Russian investment in Indonesia.

Public opinion in Indonesia also tilts in favour of Russia. Russian President Vladimir Putin is a strongman figure, a style of leadership that is popular in Indonesia. While Russia is seen as willing to stand up against US hypocrisy, Ukraine is seen as naive, easily incited by the United States and its allies to provoke Russia.

Indonesia wants to keep its options open in the future. While the bilateral relationship between Indonesia and the United States is currently strong, Indonesia cannot forget that the United States and the West imposed an embargo against it in the aftermath of the violence in East Timor in 1999.

This history makes it difficult for Indonesia to completely rely on the United States, especially for advanced military weaponry such as fighter jets. Indonesia decided instead to purchase advanced fighter jets from Russia — notably the Sukhoi SU-27 and SU-30 — and was in negotiations to purchase SU-35 fighter jets before the plan was abandoned due to fears of US sanctions.

With the United States and its allies piling up more sanctions on Russia, the Indonesia–Russia military relationship is essentially frozen in the short term. But Indonesia wants to keep its options open — sooner or later, the embargo will be lifted and Indonesia needs to maintain an alternate source for its advanced weaponry.

Geopolitically, Indonesia wants to avoid Chinese or US hegemony in its backyard. Due to its sheer size, Indonesia sees itself as a natural leader in Southeast Asia. Indonesia distrusts both China and the United States as there is a long history of the two countries interfering in Indonesian internal affairs. For example, the United States supported the PRRI/Permesta rebellion in 1958 and China was involved in the 30th September Movement.

China’s growing assertiveness in the South China Sea and mainland Southeast Asia is seen as destabilising the region from Jakarta’s perspective. At the same time, Jakarta has concerns over the Quad and AUKUS, fearing that they will further destabilise the region.

Russia is seen as a less threatening power due to its distant location from Southeast Asia. Despite fears among the Indonesian military that Russia’s aggressiveness may herald the rebirth of a new, aggressive Soviet Union, the Russian military’s disastrous performance in Ukraine has eased that concern — at least for now.

In the long run, a collapsed and isolated Russia is not in Indonesia’s interest, as Russia provides an appealing counterweight to China and the United States. This is reflected in the Lowy Institute’s 2021 survey on Indonesian people’s attitude towards global powers. Trust towards the United States has dropped by 16 per cent since 2011 to 56 per cent, while trust towards China has declined to 42 per cent. In contrast, 47 per cent trust Russia.

Indonesia’s refusal to openly condemn Russia should not be seen as feeble diplomacy on Indonesia’s part. Jakarta has strategic concerns that prevent it from strongly condemning Russia’s aggression.

Even so, Indonesia should not stay in the middle, as Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has disturbed the global order and led to questions about the United States’ implicit commitment to its security partners, especially in East and Southeast Asia. Had Russia’s invasion not been met with international condemnation, it would most likely have encouraged other countries to behave aggressively. This would cause many problems for Indonesia, especially in regard to its goal of maintaining regional stability in Southeast Asia.

There are questions as to whether China will behave more aggressively, as a result of the initially weak responses from Western countries. It was only after Ukraine showed its resilience that the West imposed stringent economic sanctions and started sending real military aid. This is a lesson that many countries in Southeast Asia are paying attention to.

Yohanes Sulaiman is a Lecturer in the School of Government at Jenderal Achmad Yani University, Bandung, Indonesia and Nonresident Fellow at The National Bureau of Asia Research.
 

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It's time Balakrishnan the unofficial leader of ASEAN should kaypoh and fuck Joko Widodo
 

mojito

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It was the right decision. All countries have the right to make war. Especially if diplomatic channels are exhausted. :thumbsup:
 

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It's time Balakrishnan the unofficial leader of ASEAN should kaypoh and fuck Joko Widodo
Your bossku Loooong go washing ton to set up that US ASEAN summit will surely make SG very popular with neighbours like indo who want to stay out of this mess. :cautious:
 

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US forced indonesia not to buy SU-35.
But if indonesia buys f-15's, they may face future sanctions. Who knows.
So they decided on rafale instead.
 

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Indonesia and Pinoyland can block the Australian navy to pass through and go a long loop into Pacific Ocean and turn left to SCS....

What's there in Australia to benefit Indonesia and Pinoy lands.... kangaroo meat not popular with them... pass.. stolen land invasionist must leave or get blocked to enter SCS..

Give N Terriorty to Indonesia and Philippines to share... 50/50 and China and Pommie shared 50/50... steal Ming Dynasty plotted landscapes in 1422 by Admiral Cheng Ho using sea route... and compass and papers and printing and gunpowder....

China 5 major inventions that changed the world..
 

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Indonesia is a fence sitter on the Russia–Ukraine crisis​

20 April 2022
Author: Yohanes Sulaiman, Jenderal Achmad Yani University

Even so, Indonesia should not stay in the middle, as Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has disturbed the global order and led to questions about the United States’ implicit commitment to its security partners, especially in East and Southeast Asia. Had Russia’s invasion not been met with international condemnation, it would most likely have encouraged other countries to behave aggressively. This would cause many problems for Indonesia, especially in regard to its goal of maintaining regional stability in Southeast Asia.

There are questions as to whether China will behave more aggressively, as a result of the initially weak responses from Western countries. It was only after Ukraine showed its resilience that the West imposed stringent economic sanctions and started sending real military aid. This is a lesson that many countries in Southeast Asia are paying attention to.

Yohanes Sulaiman is a Lecturer in the School of Government at Jenderal Achmad Yani University, Bandung, Indonesia and Nonresident Fellow at The National Bureau of Asia Research.

First off, a very obvious error in this academic's assertion - Indeed the West started sending substantial military aid only after Ukraine showed resilience, but it already triggered the so called Financial Nuclear Option (SWIFT Ejection) on the 2nd day of the Russian invasion, so his assertion that stringent economic sanctions came about as a result of the so called Ukrainian resilience is demonstrably false.

Secondly, his bold claims that if Russia had not met international condemnation, China would have behaved aggressively to Indonesia or some other countries in Southeast Asia is mere speculation which he did not substantiate in any manner. It sounds more like "I'm an expert so just believe me and don't ask questions" sort of statement.

Before the Russian-Ukraine war and right up to today, China has a very stable and strong relationship with all Southeast Asian countries including Indonesia. I find it hard to believe that if somehow the West did not condemn Russia then suddenly China would go about acting aggressively or Southeast Asia will end up being unstable, this makes no sense at all.

In fact, if we want to go along this route of "what ifs", I find it more plausible that if China has ill intent towards Southeast Asia, it would likely have become even more emboldened by the Russia-Ukraine war. Think of it this way, Ukraine, a European White country that is almost 100% aligned and pro-West gets abandoned in the end by the West, not a single one is willing to actually help them in war efforts. All just want to hide behind give token money and old weapons and let the Ukrainians bear the burnt, so what are the chances anyone in EU or US is going to help a bunch of yellow/brown skins in Southeast Asia against a much more militarily stronger China?
 
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