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Ho Ching insults Singaporeans with western names

hockbeng

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Most have christian names bcos they are christain/roman catholic.

What LKY + family truely needed was the christain faith; something which eluded them and made them poorer for it.

Although there are many christian haters out there, I believe that the teachings of the faith would have made them better people.
 

hockbeng

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Mar 21, 2010

No need for a 'uneqqee' name

Trend of using unique Westernised names reflects insecurity

<!-- by line -->By Lee Wei Ling

http://www.straitstimes.com/Think/Story/STIStory_504595.html
Over the last 50 years, the names people choose for their children, and the names some people give themselves, have changed dramatically.
When my father was born in 1923, his family consulted a friend knowledgeable in choosing names. He suggested 'Kuan Yew', which means 'brightness' in Hokkien.

My great-grandfather was awed by the British and added 'Harry' to my father's name. Because his name appeared as 'Harry Lee Kuan Yew' on his birth certificate, when he graduated from Cambridge University and later from Middle Temple, he could not persuade either institution to drop 'Harry' from his university degree or his certificate as Barrister-at-law.

In 1950, he managed to arrange for himself to be called to the Singapore Bar as just 'Lee Kuan Yew', sans 'Harry'. 'Lee Kuan Yew' thus became his public persona. To this day, only family members and a few very close friends call him 'Harry'.

My brothers and I have no ang moh name. My parents were not literate in Chinese when we were born, so my father approached a court interpreter he knew to give him some names to choose from.

My name, 'Wei Ling', means 'the sound of tinkling jade'. My parents did not foresee that I would grow up to be a tomboy who would join the army cadets in secondary school, where my loud and resonant voice was deemed appropriate for a parade commander.

'Wei Ling' is a very common name for Chinese girls. When I try to sign up for electronic journals on the Internet, and the system prompts me for a user name, I try all possible permutations of my name, including 'Li', 'Weiling' or 'Wei-Ling'. Alas, I invariably find they have all been taken by others. Exasperated, I would sometimes try 'Lee Hsien Yang', and the system would immediately accept it.

Throughout my years in school, from kindergarten to pre-university, all my friends had only Chinese, Malay or Indian names. When I was in medical school and during my early years of postgraduate training, the only Westernised names were the Christian names of those who were actually Christian.

By the late 1980s, however, non-Christian Chinese began to have Westernised names and often did not use their Chinese names at all. The trend was initially subtle and I had assumed that those with Westernised names were all Christians. It was only when I needed to write a cheque to a friend and I was told, 'don't include my Western name, just write 'Tan Chee Beng'' or whatever, did it dawn on me that the Western names were not official.

My brothers chose not to give their children any Western names. One nephew, when he was in school, asked his parents' permission to adopt a Western name. His mother Ho Ching told him: 'In China, only waiters and waitresses use Western names.' My father also explained how 'Harry' became part of his name and how he tried to remove it.

To date, none of my nephews or niece has a Western name.
I trained in Boston from 1981 to 1984, and in Toronto in 1992. I kept my Chinese name throughout and told those who had difficulty remembering my name just to call me 'Lee'.

To my close childhood friends and my family, I am just 'Ling'. I still think 'tinkling jade' hardly reflects my nature. To those who know me, 'Wei Ling' perhaps conjures up a very different image from that of tinkling jade.
I am glad that Malays and Indians rarely give or adopt Western names - unless they are Christians, in the case of the Indians. I guess there is still a strong anti-colonial instinct in me that leads me to abhor any attempt by people in former colonies to adopt the names of their past colonial masters.

In the book The Narcissism Epidemic by Jean M. Twenge and
W. Keith Campbell, there is a chapter on 'Uniqueness'. They write: 'The biggest trend in baby names recently isn't a particular name; it's that fewer children receive common names.

'The Social Security Administration has compiled a database of the names given to every American child born since 1879. Half the boys born in 1946 received one of the top 23 names. Back then, naming a child was about belonging and fitting in instead of uniqueness and standing out...
'But over the last few decades, parents, tired of common names, wanted something unique for their children. At first it was a slow progression: As late as 1987, 3 per cent of boys were named Michael and 3 per cent of girls were named Jessica, with one out of five boys and one out of six girls receiving one of the 10 most popular names.

'Then, during the 1990s, unique names caught fire and fewer and fewer children received the most popular name for their sex, and only one out of 11 boys and one out of 12 girls went by a name in the top 10...
'Now it is considered better to stand out as an individual and be 'unique'. In fact, 223 babies born in the 1990s in California were named Unique, with some parents putting teeth into it with names like Uneek, Uneque or Uneqqee...

'Unique spellings are also trendy: Why name a child Michael or Kevin when they can be Mychal or Kevyn?'

The same trend can be observed in Singapore, especially among the Chinese. An example I came across recently here of a thoroughly made-up, 'uneqqee' name was 'Evetor'.

I asked a Malay friend whether there has been a similar trend among Malay names. She replied: 'Most Malay names have either Arabic or Sanskrit roots and some are drawn from Malay literature. When I was younger, many more Malays had simpler names. Now you find a whole generation growing up with multiple names, not just a simple Fatimah or plain Aminah. Instead, it will be Fatimah Nadia Trina, or Natasha Atiqa, et cetera.
'What you will notice about these new fashionable names is that they are a blend of Western and Islamic names,' my friend told me.

I view this new trend of choosing Westernised unique names as another example of the narcissistic epidemic. I feel that if you need a name to distinguish yourself, you or your parents probably have a chip on your or their shoulder, combined with a cultural inferiority complex.

The writer is director of the National Neuroscience Institute.

I think she should just live and let live.

Why so critical of others.

Still not too late for her to convert.

Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love; where there is injury, pardon; where there is doubt, faith; where
there is despair, hope; where there is darkness, light; and where there is sadness, joy.
O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console, to be understood as to
understand, to be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive, it is in pardoning that we are pardoned, and it is in dying that we are
born to eternal life.
 

Leongsam

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Most have christian names bcos they are christain/roman catholic.

That's a load of bullshit. Only 16% of Sinkie Chinese are Christians/Catholics but probably more than 80% have Western names.

You can throw your theory into the garbage where it belongs.

The Chinese give themselves Western names because they know the West is superior in all aspects. When you admire something, you ape it. That's exactly what the Chinese the world over do.

Many Chinese also go out of the way to LOOK Western too. Take a look at this sorry specimen. Her name is "Wendy" and she's turned herself blonde.:rolleyes:

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Ramseth

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Most have christian names bcos they are christain/roman catholic.

What LKY + family truely needed was the christain faith; something which eluded them and made them poorer for it.

Although there are many christian haters out there, I believe that the teachings of the faith would have made them better people.

Pastor Kong Hee of CHC doesn't have a Christian name.
 

StonebridgeLeaner

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Most have christian names bcos they are christain/roman catholic.

What LKY + family truely needed was the christain faith; something which eluded them and made them poorer for it.

Although there are many christian haters out there, I believe that the teachings of the faith would have made them better people.

That's a controversial belief to have.
 

StonebridgeLeaner

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In China, only commoners use names that are well, common. A typical rural area would have 30,000 people going by the name of 'Zhang Li' for example, which has prompted concerns from the central government as regards to national identification.

Also, my late mother often tells me that she gave this certain Chinese name and not those dime-a-dozen names like Meiling (just as an example) and Weiqiang because she "didn't want me to sound like a cheapskate".

Such is the depth of my mother's love for me when she was around.
 

Leongsam

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And don't forget the nose job too.

The Chinese spend billions annually trying to look more Western. Having a Western name simply isn't enough in this day and age.:eek: It's sad and pathetic but unfortunately, the fact remains that many Chinese are ashamed of how they look.

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http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1369579/chinese_women_strive_to_be_part_of.html?cat=69
The Booming Cosmetic Surgery Business in China

It's a sad truth that beauty has taken hold of the Chinese society in search of finding a better job, or a husband. Young women in China are seeking to appear Caucasian in the hopes of finding success. The cosmetic surgery industry is booming despite the downfall in the global and Chinese economy.

Cosmetic surgery in China is far more common and affordable than in the United States. There are some cosmetic surgeons who are seeing anywhere from five to ten patients a day. The most popular surgeries are breast enlargement, double eyelid surgery and even surgery for height increases.

The double eyelid procedure is a process in which a crease is placed into the eyelid to make the eyes appear larger. The controversial height surgery requires that the Doctor actually break the legs of the patient and insert steel rods into the legs.

All of this craziness for the potential to find a better husband or job is too much for me. However, these women feel that it is a requirement to improve themselves to improve their potential. According to Dr. Lee a cosmetic surgeon, he says that there are displays of the westernized culture everywhere, billboards, advertising and of course television. Unfortunately the Chinese culture is no longer satisfied with being who they were born to be they now feel that they must fall into the westernized culture to be successful. The thought is that because jobs are so highly sought after in China that the aesthetic beauty is imperative in succeeding in China. However at what cost does this beauty come?

At this time while cosmetic surgery is affordable, not everyone can afford it. The most common patients are young high school graduates. It appears that the parents of these young girls are paying for the procedures and the potential opportunities for their daughters undergoing the procedures. However, while there are over 230 cosmetic surgery clinics in Shanghai, many of these centers are not licensed. They are low cost, but there are few regulations in place by the government. While some of the procedures are as cheap as $500, there is no guaranteed outcome.
 

Leongsam

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Still, the fact that you use a western name for your moniker, shows that you are alright with it.

I'm "alright" with my moniker for the simple reason that it's so far removed from my real name and identity that it suits me perfectly.
 

kojakbt

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Although there are many christian haters out there, I believe that the teachings of the faith would have made them better people.

I think most Singaporeans are reasonable enough to live and let live. I won't say the non-Christians will particularly target to hate Christians. Most will respect each other beliefs and religions.

However, I think what is annoying Singaporeans now is that some so called Christians are becoming too evangilical in proselytizing their faith. Some even go on to condemn other people's religions. This can only serve to piss off more people. And some of them like CHC and NCC dwelled too much into wealth building which is complete out of character of the purpose of having a religion.
 

kojakbt

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Take a look at this sorry specimen. Her name is "Wendy" and she's turned herself blonde.:rolleyes:


Pls lah, not all Singaporeans are like that. Besides, even she gets farked by 10 angmos, so what is it to you? You jealous? Live and let live
 

Leongsam

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Talk about "Ang Moh" worshippers this one takes the cake.... !:p

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i think whats irritating are those english non-names eg. Rayson, Brayden, Rictor (shd be victor), janelyn, or ... Latrine ...

US blacks have always used non-names eg. shermeen, cheyenne, cherie ...

US whites now follow suit with names like Paris, India, China, Maddock (mad dog) ...
 

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i think whats irritating are those english non-names eg. Rayson, Brayden, Rictor (shd be victor), janelyn, or ... Latrine ...

US blacks have always used non-names eg. shermeen, cheyenne, cherie ...

US whites now follow suit with names like Paris, India, China, Maddock (mad dog) ...
I know a hairdresser from Hong Kong by the name of Hymen. :smile:
She is quite pretty actually.
 
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