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JohnTan

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Just a reminder to Muslims.

The Prophet suffered worse. Words in forum are nothing. Continue your message.

That's true. Your 'prophet' was poisoned by a Jewish woman that he wronged. He then suffered for 3-5 years from the effects of the poison before dying literally cock standing. It's in your own islamic sources.
 

Loofydralb

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That's true. Your 'prophet' was poisoned by a Jewish woman that he wronged. He then suffered for 3-5 years from the effects of the poison before dying literally cock standing. It's in your own islamic sources.
She tried to poison him but he threw out the poisoned meat.
He was not affected much and lived on normally (war, run the place, etc) until his death a few years later.
You must be desperate to want him death by poison, but, no. He died of other causes
 

Loofydralb

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He has 4 wives and many more unknown women. Did he really suffer?
He was persecuted. His followers harassed, tortured and killed. He was denied to live in Mecca. And they wanted to kill him and always Allah protects his messengers.
 

JohnTan

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She tried to poison him but he threw out the poisoned meat.
He was not affected much and lived on normally (war, run the place, etc) until his death a few years later.

You're contradicting your own islamic sources which said that your fake prophet ate some of the poison meat.

You are clearly ashamed that your fake prophet was unable to detect beforehand that the meat was poisoned.

You must be desperate to want him death by poison, but, no. He died of other causes

Your own islamic sources said that your fake prophet suffered in agony for around 3-5 years in agony before dying with cock standing. Need me to share those sources again.

You are clearly ashamed that your fake prophet mahomet was stupid enough to eat food prepared by a Jewish woman whose family was killed by moslem invaders.
 

Loofydralb

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You're contradicting your own islamic sources which said that your fake prophet ate some of the poison meat.

You are clearly ashamed that your fake prophet was unable to detect beforehand that the meat was poisoned.



Your own islamic sources said that your fake prophet suffered in agony for around 3-5 years in agony before dying with cock standing. Need me to share those sources again.

You are clearly ashamed that your fake prophet mahomet was stupid enough to eat food prepared by a Jewish woman whose family was killed by moslem invaders.
Fact is he was leading prayers standing for hours, years before he died. Doesn't sound like he was poisoned was he.
But even more ridiculous, is your God tortured and killed by his own creation. And then you took that instrument of torture as your religious symbol!!! Probably to commemorate the joy of killing god?
 

JohnTan

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He was persecuted. His followers harassed, tortured and killed. He was denied to live in Mecca. And they wanted to kill him and always Allah protects his messengers.

Your fake god allah failed to protect his mahomet. It's in your own islamic scriptures. He was poisoned, and in other moslem sources, said that when mahomet died, he died cock standing.

Sahih al-Bukhari vol 5 , hadith no 713 : Narrated Aisha :” The Prophet in his ailment in which he died , used to say ,” O Aisha ! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and now at this time I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.”



Abu al-Fida (1273 – 1331 AD) was a Muslim geographer and historian. He relates that Prophet Muhammad suffered from a death erection. Ali ibn Abi Ṭalib, the fourth Rightly-guided Caliph of Islam (and also Muhammad's son-in-law and cousin) washed his body after his death, and had exclaimed, "O prophet, thy penis is erect unto the sky!"[12]


https://wikiislam.github.io/wiki/Priapism_-_Permanent_Erection.html
 

JohnTan

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Fact is he was leading prayers standing for hours, years before he died. Doesn't sound like he was poisoned was he.

Your own islamic hadiths said your own prophet was poisoned. Why are you denying bukari's hadiths when it embarrasses you?

Sahih al-Bukhari vol 5 , hadith no 713 : Narrated Aisha :” The Prophet in his ailment in which he died , used to say ,” O Aisha ! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and now at this time I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.”

But even more ridiculous, is your God tortured and killed by his own creation. And then you took that instrument of torture as your religious symbol!!! Probably to commemorate the joy of killing god?

Better a God that dies for His own creation than a supposed god that orders his creation to die for him.

Clearly you have no idea about leaders leading by example instead of just putting up a wayang.

Learn to read more of the Bible before challenging it. You already look like a retard when you demanded me to show proof where a Bible prophet was confronted for sinning.

He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
By oppression and judgment he was taken away.
Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished.
He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.


Isaiah 53: 7 -9
 

Loofydralb

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Your fake god allah failed to protect his mahomet. It's in your own islamic scriptures. He was poisoned, and in other moslem sources, said that when mahomet died, he died cock standing.

Sahih al-Bukhari vol 5 , hadith no 713 : Narrated Aisha :” The Prophet in his ailment in which he died , used to say ,” O Aisha ! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and now at this time I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.”



Abu al-Fida (1273 – 1331 AD) was a Muslim geographer and historian. He relates that Prophet Muhammad suffered from a death erection. Ali ibn Abi Ṭalib, the fourth Rightly-guided Caliph of Islam (and also Muhammad's son-in-law and cousin) washed his body after his death, and had exclaimed, "O prophet, thy penis is erect unto the sky!"[12]

https://wikiislam.github.io/wiki/Priapism_-_Permanent_Erection.html

How can he be poisoned when he lived years later and went to war?

Unlike your fake god who didn't know the hour nor by himself could not do anything (miracles)?
So funny your fake god
 

JohnTan

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How can he be poisoned when he lived years later and went to war?

Tell that to your bukhari, whose hadith compilation is deemed the most reliable in the moslem world.

Don't you call yourself 'sunni' moslem? The word 'sunni' doesn't appear in the moslem quran.

You're 'sunni' because you supposedly follow the 'sunnah' of your 'prophet', which is recorded in the hadith. So you're questioning your own sunnah now. That's good. Keep questioning your own islamic scriptures.

Unlike your fake god who didn't know the hour nor by himself could not do anything (miracles)?

You clearly missed most of the Gospels, where Jesus performed numerous miracles, predicted the hour of His passing, which disciple would betray him and the purpose of his crucifixion.

You're too fixated with the 'macho man' type of prophet, who must be the bestest, strongest, fastest and most powerful warlord in the universe, to the point that you're no longer even trying to type in facts when challenging Christianity.
 

Loofydralb

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Tell that to your bukhari, whose hadith compilation is deemed the most reliable in the moslem world.

Don't you call yourself 'sunni' moslem? The word 'sunni' doesn't appear in the moslem quran.

You're 'sunni' because you supposedly follow the 'sunnah' of your 'prophet', which is recorded in the hadith. So you're questioning your own sunnah now. That's good. Keep questioning your own islamic scriptures.



You clearly missed most of the Gospels, where Jesus performed numerous miracles, predicted the hour of His passing, which disciple would betray him and the purpose of his crucifixion.

You're too fixated with the 'macho man' type of prophet, who must be the bestest, strongest, fastest and most powerful warlord in the universe, to the point that you're no longer even trying to type in facts when challenging Christianity.
Not all hadiths are authentic. They are methodologies to ascertain authenticity. Something that is absent on your bible.
 

Loofydralb

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The so claimed un-authentic hadiths, how did they come about?
Similar to Paul/Saul after the going away of Jesus, people will use his name for their purposes. Ditto for Prophet Muhammad. They will make up stories and attribute sayings to the Prophet, even when he said no such thing. They want to ride on the Prophets authority.
That's how most religions morph and change into something totally unlike what was taught eg, Christianity.
If they can corrupt the bible, they can lie about prophets.
Fortunately Muslims have a systematic way of sussing out the fake hadiths and it's criteria so stringent that if it was applied to the bible, it would immediately fail even before one opens it.

Factors like did they actually met and crossed paths?
Who else reported the same?
Who wrote down the Hadith?
Who are the chains of narrators?When did the event happen?
Which period did they live?
Where and when did they live?
Their biographies. Their lineage.
Does it contradict the Quran? Have they ever been caught lying? And more.

Remember the chains of narrations were passed down the generations, and the above are also cross checked down the generations too.

We even have hadiths about the same event narrated by two different persons or more, down different chains through the generations and then miraculously they reported the exact same words the prophet spoke, word for word.
 

duluxe

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Similar to Paul/Saul after the going away of Jesus, people will use his name for their purposes. Ditto for Prophet Muhammad. They will make up stories and attribute sayings to the Prophet, even when he said no such thing. They want to ride on the Prophets authority.
That's how most religions morph and change into something totally unlike what was taught eg, Christianity.
If they can corrupt the bible, they can lie about prophets.
Fortunately Muslims have a systematic way of sussing out the fake hadiths and it's criteria so stringent that if it was applied to the bible, it would immediately fail even before one opens it.

Factors like did they actually met and crossed paths?
Who else reported the same?
Who wrote down the Hadith?
Who are the chains of narrators?When did the event happen?
Which period did they live?
Where and when did they live?
Their biographies. Their lineage.
Does it contradict the Quran? Have they ever been caught lying? And more.

Remember the chains of narrations were passed down the generations, and the above are also cross checked down the generations too.

We even have hadiths about the same event narrated by two different persons or more, down different chains through the generations and then miraculously they reported the exact same words the prophet spoke, word for word.

That sounds very rigorous and but may not be 100% professional. I believe censorship also involved and certain very authentical hadiths that used to make sense in medieval times but do not make sense in modern contexts are being censored off by muslim scholars.

Question:
If the direction of early mosques which face Petra but muslim scholars are claiming they are correctly facing 'the Sacred Kaaba in Mecca", how do you explain the change in direction 100 years later? If the direction of Petra is correct, it should continue to be correct and mosque today should face Petra.


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Loofydralb

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That sounds very rigorous and but may not be 100% professional. I believe censorship also involved and certain very authentical hadiths that used to make sense in medieval times but do not make sense in modern contexts are being censored off by muslim scholars.

Question:
If the direction of early mosques which face Petra but muslim scholars are claiming they are correctly facing 'the Sacred Kaaba in Mecca", how do you explain the change in direction 100 years later? If the direction of Petra is correct, it should continue to be correct and mosque today should face Petra.


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The fact that all hadiths are retained in the book testifies to the honesty of these Hadith checkers. If the were dishonest you won't see a single fabricated Hadith as they would be discarded a long time ago. They retained all the Hadith because with their limited resources, distance, communication and records may make the unable to fully verify the hadiths then, and with new technologies and computers would make the work much faster and more accurate.

I have not researched into the directions in prayer. However there could be misdirection (remember it's 7th century and compasses and it's application may be in error.
It could also be some interested parties wanting that direction changed.
There could be any various reasons. Thus our insistence that only the Quran is perfect.
Bottom line is we don't know why. Thus in the tradition of hadiths, we reject it.
 

duluxe

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The fact that all hadiths are retained in the book testifies to the honesty of these Hadith checkers. If the were dishonest you won't see a single fabricated Hadith as they would be discarded a long time ago. They retained all the Hadith because with their limited resources, distance, communication and records may make the unable to fully verify the hadiths then, and with new technologies and computers would make the work much faster and more accurate.

I have not researched into the directions in prayer. However there could be misdirection (remember it's 7th century and compasses and it's application may be in error.
It could also be some interested parties wanting that direction changed.
There could be any various reasons. Thus our insistence that only the Quran is perfect.
Bottom line is we don't know why. Thus in the tradition of hadiths, we reject it.

Why do you consider the bukhari hadiths that bro @JohnTan quoted you as unauthenticate but other parts of the same hadiths by the same person as authenticate?

https://sunnah.com/bukhari
 

JohnTan

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The fact that all hadiths are retained in the book testifies to the honesty of these Hadith checkers. If the were dishonest you won't see a single fabricated Hadith as they would be discarded a long time ago.

Most of the hadiths that embarrass you were normal to moslems. Such hadiths include verses on editing of the quran by a scribe, mahomet marrying and banging a kid and drinking of camel urine.

The islam that you practice today is a modern type of islam, very different from the islam 500 years ago, which in turn is very different from the islam practiced 1000 years ago.
 

Loofydralb

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Most of the hadiths that embarrass you were normal to moslems. Such hadiths include verses on editing of the quran by a scribe, mahomet marrying and banging a kid and drinking of camel urine.
How dumb can you be? Please read and understand hadith so that it does become like you bible, totally twisted and ends up worshipping man.

Muhammad never drank camel urine.

The islam that you practice today is a modern type of islam, very different from the islam 500 years ago, which in turn is very different from the islam practiced 1000 years ago.
How can it be different when the Quran remains unchanged unlike your bible, edited, verses added, verses removed, mistranslated, contradictory, full of mistakes. The icing on the cake would be your bible isn't in the original language Jesus spoke. You don't have the original and it's not god's words at all.
 
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