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Excessive defense spending and inadequate social spending weakens. singapore.....

TopSage

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Re: Excessive defense spending and inadequate social spending weakens Singapore.....

The SAF provides employment to hundreds of thousands, directly and indirectly, training for future ministers, PSes and such, and demand for a defence industry. Good luck trying to change anything here.

See the problem....these people have an interest that makes things so lopsided and unbalanced in Singapore...and if we keep going on, these people will drain the nation.
 

xebay11

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Re: Excessive defense spending and inadequate social spending weakens. singapore....

Defense spending is far more important than social spending because there are 300 million Muslims surrounding Singapore most within a 500km radius.

In fact the Indo Riau Islands are only kilometers away and can seen from the East Coast Shoreline.

Singapore can never be too careful. Every penny spent on defense is well worth it.

So you advocate state-of-the art equipment and scholar generals to fight 300 million Muslims using stone age technology weapons.
 

Leongsam

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Re: Excessive defense spending and inadequate social spending weakens. singapore....

So you advocate state-of-the art equipment and scholar generals to fight 300 million Muslims using stone age technology weapons.

I'm not advocating it. The shear numbers would swamp Singapore. However, the concept of a deterrent is to make the cost of aggression towards Singapore as high as possible with the hope that it will be sufficient to prevent it in the first place.

Singapore has no other option except high tech equipment. It certainly does not have the manpower or the size for sufficient defense in depth.
 

3_M

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Re: Excessive defense spending and inadequate social spending weakens. singapore....

I'm not advocating it. The shear numbers would swamp Singapore. However, the concept of a deterrent is to make the cost of aggression towards Singapore as high as possible with the hope that it will be sufficient to prevent it in the first place.

Singapore has no other option except high tech equipment. It certainly does not have the manpower or the size for sufficient defense in depth.

U twit! How do they swamp this island without getting drown?

Our army are not meant for fighting, it just a back-up for LKY to talk louder to that mat wannabe mamak pundek up north that all.
 

xebay11

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Re: Excessive defense spending and inadequate social spending weakens. singapore....

I'm not advocating it. The shear numbers would swamp Singapore. However, the concept of a deterrent is to make the cost of aggression towards Singapore as high as possible with the hope that it will be sufficient to prevent it in the first place.

Singapore has no other option except high tech equipment. It certainly does not have the manpower or the size for sufficient defense in depth.

Sheer not shear, Thanks. I agree with your point, however what we are spending is *excessive* for an enemy whose most potent and effective weapon be most probably a home made IED.

And has the US, with the highest technology weaponry in the world effectively deterred any fanatically determined jihadist?
 

TopSage

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Re: Excessive defense spending and inadequate social spending weakens. singapore....

I'm not advocating it. The shear numbers would swamp Singapore. However, the concept of a deterrent is to make the cost of aggression towards Singapore as high as possible with the hope that it will be sufficient to prevent it in the first place.

Singapore has no other option except high tech equipment. It certainly does not have the manpower or the size for sufficient defense in depth.

Dear Leong,

Nobody wants our beloved Singapore to be overrun by invaders. Of course, no invader in the right mind would attack singapore unless it sees Singapore as a threat because there is nothing in resources - no oil, no gold, no gas, they can steal and loot. So good diplomacy and maintaining friendly ties is important.

Singapore spends today more than the sum total spent by our 2 big neighbors on defense. This is excessive.
 

TopSage

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Re: Excessive defense spending and inadequate social spending weakens. singapore....

Sheer not shear, Thanks. I agree with your point, however what we are spending is *excessive* for an enemy whose most potent and effective weapon be most probably a home made IED.

And has the US, with the highest technology weaponry in the world effectively deterred any fanatically determined jihadist?

The high defense spending of USA only made it a target of low intensity conflict. Its large military complex only resulted in unnecessary wars and conflicts. Countries spend far less on defense actually enjoy greater safety.
 

Kenneth

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Re: Excessive defense spending and inadequate social spending weakens. singapore....

Dear Leong,

Nobody wants our beloved Singapore to be overrun by invaders. Of course, no invader in the right mind would attack singapore unless it sees Singapore as a threat because there is nothing in resources - no oil, no gold, no gas, they can steal and loot. So good diplomacy and maintaining friendly ties is important.

Singapore spends today more than the sum total spent by our 2 big neighbors on defense. This is excessive.

Another retarded thread from Malaysian Topsage, if Singapore have nothing, British will stay in this tiny island for so many years.
 
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TopSage

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Re: Excessive defense spending and inadequate social spending weakens. singapore....

Another retarded thread from Malaysian Topsage, if Singapore have nothing, British will stay in this tiny island for so many years.

Wah Kenneth so smart to call everyone names like a little immatured boy. Tell me what an invader can steal and take home?
 
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Agoraphobic

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Re: Excessive defense spending and inadequate social spending weakens. singapore....

Defense spending is far more important than social spending because there are 300 million Muslims surrounding Singapore most within a 500km radius.......

Indonesia, then under Sukarno was a different country. His reason for Confrontasi was to distract his local population from domestic problems and using the formation of Federation as an excuse for threat against Indonesia. When Suharto took over, that stance changed, and besides, Singapore is not part of the Federation anymore - so there is no threat from Indonesia, they are happily trying to grow prosperous and improve their wealth. Malaysia and Indonesia have channeled their efforts to building their economies, and thanks to the formation of ASEAN, that's become a reality for all the neighbours. The present state of military affairs, Singapore is the one pushing the arms race. But the reasons are accepted and even welcomed by her population who wish to play GI Joe.

Cheers!
 

halsey02

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Re: Excessive defense spending and inadequate social spending weakens. singapore....

That was the most publicised because it caused deaths. However, there were other acts of sabotage which were fortunate not have claimed any victims. One of the bombs was planted just 300 metres from where we were living at the time. It broke 6 window panes and caused more damage to the houses that were nearer to the blast.

NEVER take security for granted.

I do not take security for granted, don't you forget, we were the generation that went into NS after that attack...1965 was independence.
 
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