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Dow dropped 633 points !

Spiky

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US debt downgrade could mean rate hikes for all
Downgrade on US debt could translate into higher interest rates on credit cards and mortgages


If investors get skittish and Treasury prices reverse course, that could send the interest rate on Treasury bonds up. Essentially, the rate, or yield, would climb in order to make the bonds more attractive to investors. That could lead to higher borrowing rates for consumers, because the rates on mortgages and other loans are often pegged to the yield on Treasury bonds.

Not every type of consumer borrowing has a direct tie to the government's credit rating, but there are potential ripple effects for individuals.

-- Mortgage and home equity loans

S&P's downgrade may have several implications for homeowners.

For starters, early Monday S&P downgraded the credit ratings of mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which are both backed by the U.S. government. That could mean higher mortgage rates for new borrowers. Freddie and Fannie together own or guarantee about half of all mortgages in the U.S.

Source - Associated Press

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In the U.S., lots of property buyers used ARM (adjustable rate mortgages).
Singapore's interest rates are highly correlated to the U.S.'s.

Property speculators who bought condos using SOR home loans, good luck to you all

Listen to lowly-educated property agents who said interest rates will not go up, at your own risk.
Property agents are the most fxxk-type assholes around. Only interested to close the sale.
 

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Coming soon to you: D10 Freehold Condominiums at HDB prices!!!!!:biggrin:

To all those who have absolutely no concept of risk and think that property prices going one-way up is a sure-thing, good luck to you all.

Correction in the property market is a good renewal process. Capital and resources should be channelled into productive activities rather than mindless speculation.

The world would have been a better place if most of the smart people were not attracted to the financial sector. Mathematicians and physicists poured their energies into creating useless financial products (e.g. CDOs, CDO squared, CBOs etc) instead of inventing and making things for the betterment of mankind, like cheaper and cleaner energy .....

Hope the property market collapse soon and rid society of dumbfxxks and property agents.
 

Spiky

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Singapore stock market closed today for National Day. Damn lucky.

Hang Seng as at 9.40 am already down 1280 points (6.25%).
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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when Dow goes below 10,000 and stay below......................it's on it's way to below 2,000...............


the 2nd great depression may be starting........................finally.....................
 

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when Dow goes below 10,000 and stay below......................it's on it's way to below 2,000...............


the 2nd great depression may be starting........................finally.....................

US may probably go into hyperinflation.
 

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Whenever you see such threads with such a thread title in a non-financial forum, it can only mean the stock markets are due for a short term rebound, albeit a very brief one. :wink:

Sink or swim?
 

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The most interesting to watch is the "horse-rear canon" analyst comments. 马后炮. Just wait and see what the same people would say when the market rebounds in near term.

Extremes like the 1930s will never repeat because politicians have learnt how to cover up. Contrary to what many would like to believe, the American private sector institutions are patriotic and they could harness a collective act that fool the entire world for a long time. They could perk up the stock market or deflate it. The extent of American cancerous trade deficit is a known fact for more than a decade yet you don't see the same institutions condemning the economy.

I subscribe to the conspiracy theory that market as a whole is manipulated by a bunch of powerful people in financial institutions. Every year or so there will be a major swing that provide ample buying opportunities... and then the market will turn the other way for a long period. The deep pockets close their in-out positions over these cycles of one to two years and go shake legs at the Bahamas. They can bleed the funds for all they care but privately the same people running the funds laughed their way to the bank. Without these swings how could people make money quickly?

Market analyses and comments should always be taken with a pinch of salt as non of these commentators are independant. I would just invest in blue-chip when the market is low enough... and liquidate when high enough... ignore whatever the market analysts say
 
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here is my take... with the debt ceiling absolutely removed by USA, QE3 will be in action, and this will actually drive the housing prices up first... to a point where it is unsustainable.

the market prices of properties when it soar so high, there will be low demand, and the property developers will be scared, and they have to and must slash prices, else no one will buy, causing the housing prices to be stagnant... maybe it may take around 6 months to see the prices soar again... till the bubble is so big that no one can buy properties...

So, I believe it'll be a good time to SHORT USD right now, but to bet on property prices moving up, and maybe by next year, when the prices of properties all over the world have reached unsustainable levels, 2012, I predict, there will be global property prices slump!

Get yourself stocked with RMB, SGD, GOLD & SILVER bullion... these currencies should be legal tender when the worst impact happen by 2012... not so soon my friends... property prices will not go down so fast... likewise, all of you will see FOOD PRICES, and COMMODITIES prices SOAR!!! it will not come down yet... don't be so happy...

The GREATEST DEPRESSION is coming your way...

If you're doing international business, stay away USA & EUROPEAN markets, as these places are loaded with toxic debts, EURO will crash by 2012. The people in UK are already getting jittery, and riots exploding.

Ladies and Gentlemen, FOCUS on ASIA + PACIFIC, AFRICA, EAST EUROPE BLOC, RUSSIA, LATIN AMERICA Markets... the worst will only happen in USA & EUROPE, due to their indiscriminate spending, and stocking up of toxic debts like CDO, mini-bonds, fanny mae, freddy mac, credit card debts, and housing debts... Honestly, I think these cheebye ang mo countries deserved it... they are printing so much bonds, and the rest of the world are buying their debts, and now they are paying for their GREED & FOLLY.

Give a businessman a piece of gold, and he will multiply it, give a fool a piece of gold, and he will party it... so ladies and gentlemen... let the fools fall...
 

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US stocks rise after big fall


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Richard Drew - Specialist Stephen D'Agostino works at his post on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange Tuesday, Aug. 9, 2011. (AP Photo/Richard Drew)

NEW YORK (AP) — Bargain hunters are pushing stocks up in midday trading, and the Dow briefly rose above 11,000.

The Dow Jones industrial average is up 180 points, or 1.7 percent, at 10,990. On Monday, it had its worst day since 2008, plunging 634.76 points. The S&P 500 is up 26, or 2.3 percent, to 1,145.

TheNasdaq is up 74, or 3.1 percent, at 2,432.

Peter Coleman, head of equity research at JMP Securities called the gains a relief rally.

He said there was nothing new to make investors feel better or worse but some investors saw good values in stocks.

Traders are also looking ahead to Tuesday afternoon, when the Federal Reserve will issue a policy statement about interest ratesand any other actions the central bank might be planning.


 
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