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China may 'crash' in next 9-12 months: Marc Faber

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China may 'crash' in next 9-12 months: Marc Faber

4 May 2010, 0100 hrs Bloomberg

SINGAPORE: Investor Marc Faber said China’s economy will slow and possibly “crash” within a year as declines in stock and commodity prices signal the nation’s property bubble is set to burst.

The Shanghai Composite Index has failed to regain its 2009 high while industrial commodities and shares of Australian resource exporters are acting “heavy”, Faber said. The opening of the World Expo in Shanghai last week is “not a particularly good omen”, he said, citing a property bust and depression that followed the 1873 World Exhibition in Vienna.

“The market is telling you that something is not quite right,” Faber, the publisher of the Gloom, Boom & Doom report, said in a Bloomberg Television interview in Hong Kong on Monday.

“The Chinese economy is going to slow down regardless. It is more likely that we will even have a crash sometime in the next nine to 12 months.”


An index tracking Chinese stocks traded in Hong Kong dropped 1.8% on Monday, the most in two weeks, after the central bank raised reserve requirements for the third time this year.

The Shanghai Composite has slumped 12% this year, Asia’s worst performer, as policy makers seek to rein in a lending boom that’s spurred record gains in property prices. China’s markets are shut for a holiday on Monday.

Copper touched a seven-week low and BHP Billiton, the world’s biggest mining company, fell the most since February on concern spending in the world’s third-largest economy will slow and after Australia boosted taxes on commodities producers. Rio Tinto, the third-largest, slid as much as 6 %.

Chanos, Rogoff

Faber joins hedge fund manager Jim Chanos and Harvard University’s Kenneth Rogoff in warning of a crash in China.

China is “on a treadmill to hell” because it’s hooked on property development for driving growth, Chanos said in an interview last month.

As much as 60% of the country’s gross domestic product relies on construction, he said.

Rogoff said in February a debt-fuelled bubble in China may trigger a regional recession within a decade.
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Local Governments

Citigroup warned in March that in a “worst case scenario”, the non-performing loans of local-government investment vehicles, used to channel money to stimulus projects, could swell to 2.4 trillion yuan by 2011.

Housing prices nationwide may fall as much as 20% in the second half of the year on government measures to curb speculation, BNP Paribas said on April 23.

Under a stress test conducted by the Shanghai branch of the China Banking Regulatory Commission in February, local banks’ ratio of delinquent mortgages would triple should home prices in the country’s commercial center decline 10%.

Shanghai is projecting as many as 70 million visitors to the $44 billion World Expo, more than 10 times the number who traveled to the 2008 Beijing Olympics. More than 433,000 people visited the 5.3 square-kilometer (3.3 square-mile) park on its first weekend.
 

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I think US will clash first before China as long as China maintain her Yuan at a low value compared to the US$.
 

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the question is if all those construction housing are all taken up by the massive amount of their local population. would the end equation be the same? or would it be sustainable?
 

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Part of what we are seeing right now is impact of Gov turning off the liquidity. It is part of attempt to stablize real estate prices. Banks now have much higher reserve requirements and have been told to reduce credit which was pumped into the system during the global financial collapse.

It all depends on what is a crash. With economy running at 9%, a 20% retrace is a 2 year setback. Which in a way is good as it brings in more regulation, similiar to what happened in the US.

The repercussion to the global economy would be much worse. When China sneezes the world catches a cold. Remember that at the moment the world is being propped up with Chinese $$$ both internally via stimulus package and externally via purchase of US debt. For the resource export countries from india (iron ore) to copper - things will be bad
 
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