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mebirdie

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I will go on 3 days tour from 6-8 in LW. Today will be 2nd day.

Heng!! Heng!!!
But I never believe on luck. Even lucky, you will notice that good luck time span is very short. Play on luck with long period of time is playing with fire. :smile:
 

sohbuckkong

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I will go on 3 days tour from 6-8 in LW. Today will be 2nd day.

Heng!! Heng!!!
But I never believe on luck. Even lucky, you will notice that good luck time span is very short. Play on luck with long period of time is playing with fire. :smile:

Hengheng! So I suppose you brought along your laptop to LW.

Brother, in guessing game, out of 100 times, all of us will guess about 50 times right and 50 times wrong which we commonly called it good luck and bad luck. Henceforth if you have guessed correctly in the beginning, it means that you are going to guess wrongly soon. so if you are winning, its time for you to slow down or one may lose everything.
 

silverfox@

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Just to provide some statistics which I acquired by playing online with live feed.

Taken from 50 Shoes.

Out of 50
33 Shoes have more Bankers than Players. (66%)
3 Shoes ended equal
14 Shoes have more Players than Bankers. (28%)

In every shoe, I only played up to the 50th hand at most. Regardless of whether I am in profit or in loss. Every shoe I will cap my max win and max loss. Eg, That means if I win 8 units in a shoe. I stop. or I lose 8 units in a shoe, I stop. (Diff people can cap different levels they want) In such scenarios, I wouldn't be caught out in a shoe which has many many players appearing. And once I stop, I wait for next shoe to be shuffled and start again.

For results in Genting,
I get around (60% of shoes having more Bankers)
and (35% of shoes having more Players)


From the 33 Shoes that had Bankers appearing more,
a total of 171 units of Bankers appeared more than Players.
Avg is each Shoe had 5.18 units of Bankers more than Players.

From the 14 Shoes that had Players appearing more,
a total of 78 units of Players appeared more than Bankers
Avg is each Shoe had 5.57 units of Players more than Bankers.

If you add both together,
a total of 93 units of Bankers will appear more than Players.
93/47 shoes, will appear an avg of 1.97 units of Bankers more than Players.
This statistic is very similar to what I get in Genting.
A person if betting on Banker only, will win around averaging 1.5-2 units in a shoe

I am midway through to the next 50 shoes. Once finished, I will post the statistics.

In Genting, first card out is indication of how many cards to be burnt. Example 5, 5 cards will be burnt.
Every new hand will have 1 burnt card.
Machine shuffle

In online casino, Only 1st card is burnt.
Every new hand they don't burn cards.
Manual shuffle.
 

silverfox@

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Frank Scoblete has highlighted a strategy in his book.

Follow the Banker-bet-strategy.
Which means only place a bet on Banker when Banker appears and till it stops..

This looks like a safe bet, but it is actually not.
Example, a shoe has 60 hands, eg, 28 hands banker, 4 tie, 28 hands player.

Waiting for the first indication of Banker to appear, eg, let's say there are 12 indications, you will only have 16 banker hands left where you can win. Plus bet till it changes to player bet another 8 indications (4 tie) one may only left 8 units left to win.

If a situation comes in
BPBPBPBPBP

the person will lose 5 units

If the situation comes in
BBPPBBPP

the person will not win or lose

If its
PPPPPPPPP

the person will not place any bet.

The only favourable situation is to hope for Banker to open a long streak and make money from it.
Sometimes in a shoe, you get one or two, sometimes three long streaks of Banker, but quite rare to see three.
However, the ding dong situation will eliminate the units very fast.
 

sohbuckkong

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....
Taken from 50 Shoes.
...............
A person if betting on Banker only, will win around averaging 1.5-2 units in a shoe
............e.

50 shoes is too little, it should be at least 1,000 shoes or 60,000 games for the datas to be accurate.

I agree that on average, per shoe, banker will be more than player by about 1.5% to 2%. But because of banker's 5% tax, our nett result is still a loss.

Henceforth, on average, both banker and player will end up losing.
 

silverfox@

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50 shoes is too little, it should be at least 1,000 shoes or 60,000 games for the datas to be accurate.

I agree that on average, per shoe, banker will be more than player by about 1.5% to 2%. But because of banker's 5% tax, our nett result is still a loss.

Henceforth, on average, both banker and player will end up losing.

The rest are all on paper, haven't had time to transfer them onto excel sheet to do calculation.

I only have live date results as I think there is a difference in results between games generated by live and games generated by RNG (Random Number Generator)
 

mebirdie

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Day 1 +$300
Day 2 +$400
Day 3 -$70

Overall trying to test my patience.
Still 20% cannot control my mind. :(
When luck is down should stop. I try 1 time on double betting. :(
 

Natural Nine

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Day 1 +$300
Day 2 +$400
Day 3 -$70

Overall trying to test my patience.
Still 20% cannot control my mind. :(
When luck is down should stop. I try 1 time on double betting. :(


sbk , how are you ? did you do to LongJie today ?

i just came back from LW .

LJ and LW are parked near to each other today at the highseas

i made the following : friday : $30/- , sat at home
Sun : $300/- &
Mon : $450/-


SBK how much did you make ?
 

Alibaba

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My FR at LW today.

I lost $500.

The mistake I made, was losing $200 and at the urge to take the departure ferry. Thus i stake $300 for the last hand thinking can recover. As a result total lost $500. A very impulsive action.

Will learnt from this mistake.

And seriously betting on Banker througout really minimise the possibility of losing more.:smile:
 

silverfox@

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My FR at LW today.

I lost $500.

The mistake I made, was losing $200 and at the urge to take the departure ferry. Thus i stake $300 for the last hand thinking can recover. As a result total lost $500. A very impulsive action.

Will learnt from this mistake.

And seriously betting on Banker througout really minimise the possibility of losing more.:smile:

Actually its a very common mistake made by many.

I don't win everyday too.
Most people upon timing to go home from casino and if they are in a loss, they would normally do that to cover back.

U need a lot of discipline not to do it again, because this kind of mistake is so common till many people do it again and again even knowing it.

If you made a loss of $200, just normal go home and next day go again. You start a clean slate and a fresh day.

Losing $500, you would have to make $700 in order to win $200 profit. If you are only on a loss of $200 and next day you make $700, You would have won $500 profit. That is why losing less is the most important thing for all.

There was an article from a book which I read where they did a survey on casino patrons. Surprisingly, those who loses more and those who are more addicted to gambling are the people who stayed further away from the casino. Those who stay within 30-45 mins to a casino, have less addicts compared to those staying further away.
 

mebirdie

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I can just say 99% of us will make the same mistake all over and over again.

Tried betting only on banker but didn't work for me. :smile:

Every method will only be a guidance to increase the chances of winning.
Most important is to know when to stop.

Very simple. Many can win and win. But they just cannot withstand any sudden hit within very short period. E.g You can win for 2 shoes but within 5-10 games can kill you already.
 

silverfox@

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Tried betting only on banker but didn't work for me. :smile:

Hi bro,

betting every hand banker, vs every hand player, in the long run, betting every hand player will lose even much more than betting every hand banker.

The fundamentals is that Banker has a likelier chance to open more than Player.
This reason is due to the 3rd card being drawn. When 3rd card is drawn certain cards are more advantageous to Banker.

I know a lot of people do not believe in card counting. Even many books say card counting do not help much and the percentage is very minimal and burnt down by the house edge.

Something we already knew.
1) Banker has a slightly better percentage than Player.
2) This is due to 3rd card drawn.
3) 8 decks are used to increase house edge.

Something which sohbuckkong highlighted a few pages back, if Player opens more, let's say Player has win 8 more times more than Banker, Banker has a likely chance to open after that or at least equalise.

Sometimes certain shoes don't just stop at 8, they continue and Player could in fact even open 10 more times than Banker after that.
4) Why Player has won 8 more times first is a combination of Natural 8,9 where no card is needed and entirely based on coincidence. But the cards left in the deck is decisive and can increase the percentage of needing to draw a 3rd card for either Banker, Player and thus the Banker's chance is tilted more to its side.

5) Based on the above figures, if I bet only on Banker every hand, the house edge and commission is eating away my profits.
I still bet on Banker, but I do calculations that the card numbers that has been delivered and the cards left in the deck. The percentage of Banker will greatly increase if certain cards are left in the deck. When a 3rd card is needed for Banker or Player, we will have a better chance of hitting Banker.
 

sohbuckkong

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sbk , how are you ? did you do to LongJie today ?

i just came back from LW .

LJ and LW are parked near to each other today at the highseas

i made the following : friday : $30/- , sat at home
Sun : $300/- &
Mon : $450/-


SBK how much did you make ?
I dont go ship on weekend. However, I go online to gamble and I was just lucky to win $800 again. Of course I play baccarat and bet on banker only but my stakes varies.
 

sohbuckkong

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My FR at LW today.

I lost $500.

The mistake I made, was losing $200 and at the urge to take the departure ferry. Thus i stake $300 for the last hand thinking can recover. As a result total lost $500. A very impulsive action.

Will learnt from this mistake.

And seriously betting on Banker througout really minimise the possibility of losing more.:smile:
If you put $300, won and stop, then that is not a mistake. But the problem is that if you had won, I dont think you would have stop and that would be a very serious mistake.
 

sohbuckkong

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Hi silverfox, I am quite happy to find someone like you whose playing style and gambling thoughts are quite similar to mine. Of course there are still some minor differences.

To members :
I have done my calculations on baccarat. The reasons why I always bet on banker are as follows :-
(1) If 3rd card is drawn by player and then both banker and player compare points, then the winning chance of banker is 70%.

(2) The chances on player needing to draw a 3rd card is more than 50%

......
The fundamentals is that Banker has a likelier chance to open more than Player.
This reason is due to the 3rd card being drawn. When 3rd card is drawn certain cards are more advantageous to Banker.

I know a lot of people do not believe in card counting. Even many books say card counting do not help much and the percentage is very minimal and burnt down by the house edge.

Something we already knew.
1) Banker has a slightly better percentage than Player.
2) This is due to 3rd card drawn.
3) 8 decks are used to increase house edge.

Something which sohbuckkong highlighted a few pages back, if Player opens more, let's say Player has win 8 more times more than Banker, Banker has a likely chance to open after that or at least equalise.

Sometimes certain shoes don't just stop at 8, they continue and Player could in fact even open 10 more times than Banker after that.
4) Why Player has won 8 more times first is a combination of Natural 8,9 where no card is needed and entirely based on coincidence. But the cards left in the deck is decisive and can increase the percentage of needing to draw a 3rd card for either Banker, Player and thus the Banker's chance is tilted more to its side.

5) Based on the above figures, if I bet only on Banker every hand, the house edge and commission is eating away my profits.
I still bet on Banker, but I do calculations that the card numbers that has been delivered and the cards left in the deck. The percentage of Banker will greatly increase if certain cards are left in the deck. When a 3rd card is needed for Banker or Player, we will have a better chance of hitting Banker.
 
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justl00king

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I can just say 99% of us will make the same mistake all over and over again.



Every method will only be a guidance to increase the chances of winning.
Most important is to know when to stop.

Very simple. Many can win and win. But they just cannot withstand any sudden hit within very short period. E.g You can win for 2 shoes but within 5-10 games can kill you already.
Gotta agree with this.:smile:

Many times when start will win many hands, so thinking today is lucky day and start to whack, keep losing..:p
 
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