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hyywes

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I can guarantee you that its just a coincidence. Even a computerised machine will not be able to do this.

Yes, maybe. unless u see it for yourself.
It can be done almost like magic.

I have tried spinning the same section 10 consecutive time using the same strength. so it can be controlled.

But that time was dealing in common room, so they bochup how i deal.
but if for dealers dealing in VIP keep spiining same section confirm get relegated to card runner. lol.

House edge may vary depending on dealer spinning.

hyywes
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sohbuckkong

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FR today in Longjie

Today I went longjie in the morning. Again my mind was set up to play only Banker, my strategy was to play $20 each bet and if win $100, to put $100 the next round and to stop playing if I win $200. As usual, my greatest fear was that I was afraid that I may deviate from the original plan especially when losing.

As usual, like many others, my spirit was high when on the way.......... so, finally we reach Longjie, today not much people. I went to the toilet to ease myself first, the purpose of this is also to cool myself down.

Finally I change $2.5K with those rolling gals and proceed to look for a place to sit in those baccarat table, finally I settled in one of those $20 table and the battle begins.

I bet banker $20 on each bet in the beginning, luck was against me as player open more than banker and so I finally lost 5 times = $100. Damn I was thinking if I played $20 each time then it will take 5 times winning to be even. With this thought, I then increase my stake to $30. This was bad because this deviates from my original plan. At one stage I lost about $200 and I increase my stake to $40 each bet which is very very bad for many various reasons. Finally my time was up as I had to go home on the 5pm ferry. About 25 mins before 5pm, I actually pull back some money and I lost only $15, however I continue playing putting $40 each time and again luck was against me and finally I lost $200 with slight regrets.
Today I played 3 shoes and all 3 shoes open more player thats why I lose. I rolled $2k and so I got $20.

Tmr I am going to longjie again in the morning. Tmr morning, longjie is at harbourfront, depart 1015hr.
 

silverfox@

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FR today in Longjie

Today I went longjie in the morning. Again my mind was set up to play only Banker, my strategy was to play $20 each bet and if win $100, to put $100 the next round and to stop playing if I win $200. As usual, my greatest fear was that I was afraid that I may deviate from the original plan especially when losing.

As usual, like many others, my spirit was high when on the way.......... so, finally we reach Longjie, today not much people. I went to the toilet to ease myself first, the purpose of this is also to cool myself down.

Finally I change $2.5K with those rolling gals and proceed to look for a place to sit in those baccarat table, finally I settled in one of those $20 table and the battle begins.

I bet banker $20 on each bet in the beginning, luck was against me as player open more than banker and so I finally lost 5 times = $100. Damn I was thinking if I played $20 each time then it will take 5 times winning to be even. With this thought, I then increase my stake to $30. This was bad because this deviates from my original plan. At one stage I lost about $200 and I increase my stake to $40 each bet which is very very bad for many various reasons. Finally my time was up as I had to go home on the 5pm ferry. About 25 mins before 5pm, I actually pull back some money and I lost only $15, however I continue playing putting $40 each time and again luck was against me and finally I lost $200 with slight regrets.
Today I played 3 shoes and all 3 shoes open more player thats why I lose. I rolled $2k and so I got $20.

Tmr I am going to longjie again in the morning. Tmr morning, longjie is at harbourfront, depart 1015hr.

Bro,
I am studying this concept on bankroll management.
based on this finding and philosophy
In casinos, the majority of people who started winning, will not be able to get their winnings out of casino and will lose it back
In casinos, the majority of people who started losing, will in fact start lose even more. It's only that few occasion when fightback is possible. But not every day is a lucky day.

In a shoe, Banker is supposed to open more due to better percentage. But a shoe consisting of many Players can happen and will happen.

I reduce my bets when I win and cap it.
I increase my bets when I lose, but I cap it.
 

silverfox@

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FR today in Longjie

Today I went longjie in the morning. Again my mind was set up to play only Banker, my strategy was to play $20 each bet and if win $100, to put $100 the next round and to stop playing if I win $200. As usual, my greatest fear was that I was afraid that I may deviate from the original plan especially when losing.

I think deviation from original plan can be controlled. Not every day will be a winning day. If you go 10 times, win 7 times, lose 3 times, overall still win 4 times. And the losing can be minimized.

I never increase my stakes considerably when losing just to fightback the initial loss, because out of 10 times, 7 times will end up in tragedy. :(

Going home with small loss is ok, because casino is open everyday. By keeping some extra bullets can be used next day battle again.:wink:
 

0939

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If banker is not your day, would it be wise to bet on player. Seems to me you are chasing your losses, that would be a disaster for you in long run.
 

sohbuckkong

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If banker is not your day, would it be wise to bet on player. Seems to me you are chasing your losses, that would be a disaster for you in long run.

Many times, we lost disastrously because we lost control, start to mount our stakes, when losing. This happens when our minds are no more steady.

Going to casino to gamble is like going to war, there must be a plan. To prevent a disaster, we must stick to our original plan because , indecisions will lead to confusion and frustration especially when losing and will usually cause the player to bet excessively and to loss everything.

If I keep mounting my stakes when losing, then I am chasing which in most cases will lead to disaster.

Going to gamble without first deciding how much u intent to win also is bad because many times, when we win, we continue playing hoping to win more and in most cases will cause us to lose everything eventually.

According to the law of 50%-50% chance, theres no such thing as winning or losing all the time. If we plot a graph, we will see a sine wave hovering on zero, henceforth in my opinion, when losing, we should not change table, or change our betting position, stick to it and if you have the capital stamina, I can assure you that you will recoup all your loses.
 

sohbuckkong

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...
I increase my bets when I lose, but I cap it.

I recommend you 1 strategy, suppose u play 1 unit each bet and if you lose 5 units, then increase your bet to 2 units.... and so on..... increasing your bets progressively, and of course with capping when it reach to a certain units.
 

silverfox@

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If banker is not your day, would it be wise to bet on player. Seems to me you are chasing your losses, that would be a disaster for you in long run.

If banker is not your day, turning tide to play Player instead.
In my opinion, it is not worth it. Staking on player is just an illusion as it has no commission and 1/1 payout.
But, playing both sides or just only on Player, will in fact hasten the losing process.
Play both sides will lose the fastest.
 

silverfox@

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I recommend you 1 strategy, suppose u play 1 unit each bet and if you lose 5 units, then increase your bet to 2 units.... and so on..... increasing your bets progressively, and of course with capping when it reach to a certain units.

Bro,

I am almost 90% like a robot. My brain is tuned to such that even if I lose, i never increase bets. When I increase bets, my heartbeat beat faster. This one I cannot control myself already
Every strategy must give it time to ride out. Not today win, tomorrow win, 3rd day lose and then drop the stratgy. Give a strategy time to develop and run. No strategy can win everyday.
But there is strategy where when you win, you win 100, when you lose, you lose only 50. Going by law of averages, you win in long run.
Even on a casino table, they don't win everyday. Just that because humans tend to want to lose more to the table.

If i lose 5 units and I increase to 2 units, I can tell you on a super freak unlucky day, even i double for 5 times, i can still lose. And if i actually stick to the initial 1 unit bet, I would probably lose only 10 units instead of 15 units.

My school of thought differs a bit from you as I can see your strategy is on winning back while my strategy is on, if I lose, I am going to make my losing go low.
:o

Let's say I bet 100, win I bet 90, win I bet 80. win I bet 70. Once I hit 4, I stop. 340

Let's say I bet 100, lose I bet 110, lose I bet 120, total I lose 330.

This above scenario is based on Banker run where I win, Player run where I lose. However interesting thing is when the shoe goes Ding dong BPBPBP

Win 100, lose 90, Win 100, lose 90, Win 100, lose 90.
The longer the ding dong runs, the more $10 I get.
Even if BBBPPP,
Win 100, Win 90, Win 80, Lose 70, Lose 80, Lose 90
All in, i still win 30

This is based on studying all thrend happenings that can actually happen to see whether any form of benefit can be taken from most situations. Another thing is I don't finish the whole shoe. If the shoe sucks with Players, at least I have an escape plan which is to wait for next shoe rather than incur more losses.

Bro, I am still fine tuning this system and trying it out on online live table using Demo money.
Have been clocking quite interesting profiting results daily.
 

Alibaba

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Just to share my FR.

Today I was at LW.

Ever since I adopt Silverfox Bros method, I been able to control the losing part.

There was a joker whose luck is extremely power today. He got 16 bet in a roll all correct!

BBPPBBPPBBPPBBPP

Since I only bet banker, I did not stake those players hand. Thus I also win 8 in a roll. I dare not go against the crowd because at the 6th game, the table is full of people and everyone supported him.

Before the 17th hand, everyone who follow him win alot I believe. For me, I constantly stake $40 throughout.

Well, 17th hand everyone stake Banker including me. It came out player. I lost $40. But there are people who stake few Ks and out of a sudden there was silent.

Overall, after playing for 2.5 hours i profit $800 with $40 constant betting. I did not bet every hand. Those I felt may be player I skip. Though I am wrong sometime, is still ok for me.

What I would like to share is : Having constant bet amount can control the losing parts. Double up too often may not be wise. Of course I am still new in barcarat, just to share my FR.

In general, before you start to play, a basic strategy is needed, and discipline is extremely important.
 

silverfox@

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Just to share my FR.

Today I was at LW.

Ever since I adopt Silverfox Bros method, I been able to control the losing part.

There was a joker whose luck is extremely power today. He got 16 bet in a roll all correct!

BBPPBBPPBBPPBBPP

Since I only bet banker, I did not stake those players hand. Thus I also win 8 in a roll. I dare not go against the crowd because at the 6th game, the table is full of people and everyone supported him.

Before the 17th hand, everyone who follow him win alot I believe. For me, I constantly stake $40 throughout.

Well, 17th hand everyone stake Banker including me. It came out player. I lost $40. But there are people who stake few Ks and out of a sudden there was silent.

Overall, after playing for 2.5 hours i profit $800 with $40 constant betting. I did not bet every hand. Those I felt may be player I skip. Though I am wrong sometime, is still ok for me.

What I would like to share is : Having constant bet amount can control the losing parts. Double up too often may not be wise. Of course I am still new in barcarat, just to share my FR.

In general, before you start to play, a basic strategy is needed, and discipline is extremely important.

Hi bro,

Great to see another convert in betting just Banker. It is not easy to find people who just bet on Banker. :smile:
Me betting and posting now. hehehehe

Discipline is important.
I never believe in chasing losses. Because LOSS is like on a ferrari, to chase it and catch it is not easy. So i gave up trying to catch. I play my normal style

There are people who can be very lucky and super on form, but unless they got x-ray eyes, if not I don't think they can replicate such stuff day in day out.

Betting Banker doesn't mean everyday bet everyday win or everytime bet everytime win.
The irony is because gambling involves human emotions. Betting on Banker means 1 factor less to think must I buy Banker, Player, Tie.
If I buy Player, openn Banker, sure angry
If buy Banker, open player, sure angry again.
If buy 10 times, 10 times all wrong, then we will start licking wounds why.

I know many people read this thread but did not contribute because they think nothing to contribute as don't win a lot or lose a lot, what's there to contribute. In fact, I like to read more on defeats. Because every loss is a learning curve for us to find out and fine tune what went wrong and rectify. We all learn from mistakes. Even god of gambler will lose. But is how we learn from the loss and benefit from it.
 

silverfox@

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Bro Alibaba,
BTW, to add on,

betting on Banker alone is not enough.

betting on Banker alone can only see winnings. But we all want to see consistent winnings.
That is why bankroll management must be mixed with playing on Banker. If not it would be tough to maintain the consistency.

Also, how many of you take down the thrends on paper and archive results?
The reason I say this is any strategy can then be applied on past results to see whether majority of shoes will turn out good results or bad ones.
 

Alibaba

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In fact, I started to play bacarat just about a month plus. Like what you have mentioned, I had already control the losing part. To me this is a great achievement consider I never make a single profit from casino gambling in my life.

And surprisingly I made several winnings already for playing baccarat. I forgo other games especially fruit machines. Is better to win than to have excitement and lose.

I cant comment too much as really i am still very new to baccarat.

Card counting I am totally out, some hands I dont stake if I think is going to be players. For this, :P I am really discipline. Is a learning stage for me.

By staring at the past result, I dont even understand it. Every past result seems to have a trend or a hint, but I seriously believe the next hand is always independent. The past result is just bullshit and meant to deceive you. The people surround me commented this and that, but after the result came out, if is against then alot of excuses from them.

Give me a couple of months. I am trying to understand the game better. For now, I dont think my analysis of the game can provide much help.

Cheers.
 

Alibaba

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Bro Alibaba,
BTW, to add on,

betting on Banker alone is not enough.

betting on Banker alone can only see winnings. But we all want to see consistent winnings.
That is why bankroll management must be mixed with playing on Banker. If not it would be tough to maintain the consistency.

Also, how many of you take down the thrends on paper and archive results?
The reason I say this is any strategy can then be applied on past results to see whether majority of shoes will turn out good results or bad ones.

So far, I read alot of pros posting about bankroll management in this thread. Trying to find the best that suit my strategy. Not yet finalise but trying. You guys are really pros and seriously, reading here make me think better what suits me best when i enter the casino.

I wasn't a hot temper person. In fact I had alot of patient. But I dont have discipline in the past. Thus I am starting from scratch to build my discipline. I only believe if I want constant winnings, I must build on my weakest link.
 

silverfox@

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So far, I read alot of pros posting about bankroll management in this thread. Trying to find the best that suit my strategy. Not yet finalise but trying. You guys are really pros and seriously, reading here make me think better what suits me best when i enter the casino.

I wasn't a hot temper person. In fact I had alot of patient. But I dont have discipline in the past. Thus I am starting from scratch to build my discipline. I only believe if I want constant winnings, I must build on my weakest
link.

By staring at the past result, I dont even understand it. Every past result seems to have a trend or a hint, but I seriously believe the next hand is always independent. The past result is just bullshit and meant to deceive you. The people surround me commented this and that, but after the result came out, if is against then alot of excuses from them.

Give me a couple of months. I am trying to understand the game better. For now, I dont think my analysis of the game can provide much help.


Cheers.

Yesterday,
I won $110 USD on demo money. with base bet at $5USD.

Today, I started losing because the first few shoes opened with many Players.
So I started losing 20, 30, and hit a total of -$60USD. But I never change strategy or increase bet and just slowly bet. Now I just finish my 10th shoe for the day. I made profit of $7USD on demo money recovering from -60. I could have made extra $25 USD, if not for me starting halfway through a shoe(which was not my style. Since its demo money, I wanted to try out something new. I waited for 4 Player appearing in the middle of a shoe before betting on Banker. Voila, another 4 more Player results came out and I stop that shoe.)
This is why I said anything can happen. If in real life I win just $7, I will still be happy because to lose little is important. Not to lose is an achievement. To win is a bonus.

Many people's aim is to win, I agree. But I work from the back and try to limit losing, because only then can my profits overtake the losses.

Even if I ended the day losing, I will not chase loss and will just play tomorrow again.
We just have to remember casino is open everyday. No need scared they close, only need to scared we have no money to play.

Building discipline can be learnt thru a shortcut way which is observing how people lose. Only then we can remind ourselves not to do the same thing as what they did.

Everyone's experience is different, everyone's analysis of the game is different. There are flaws in every system. Just that how well we can cover the flaw and does not eat too much or more than the profits. What a new player has seen could be something that an experienced player has never seen.

You see some aunties, uncles in casino. They tell you they have been playing for years, more experienced than us. Then they start telling you, they have lost how much how much. Every day go casino is like paying salary to croupiers, which table or which chair are 'courtesy sponsored' by them.

So we have few alternatives.
1 is to quit casino gambling altogether.
2 is to be like them and gamble for years and keep losing and still don't know why. Sometimes blame bad luck, sometimes blame croupier, sometimes blame the cards, everything also blame.
3 is to know why we lose and rectify and make sure the same mistakes does not happen again.

To win in a casino, a person must work like a robot void of emotions, nothing can affect his decision making. Even if he feels Player is going to come out, he must still bet Banker. Because robot don't have a mind. That is why casinos engage croupiers. Win or lose, it's not the croupiers' money:biggrin:
 

silverfox@

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And surprisingly I made several winnings already for playing baccarat. I forgo other games especially fruit machines. Is better to win than to have excitement and lose.

I have nothing against fruit machines. But I always feel its like slashing my wrists and waiting for blood to drip dry. Slow suicide. :o

Games where you bet, and you feel your heart beat faster when card turns out or anticipating where the ball drops into which hole in roulette, its advisable to skip these games or work on ownself.

Excitement in gambling is when you try to predict the end result and bet on it. Win, everyone is happy. Lose, everyone is sad, angry, and most of the time the latter comes out more often.
I am not interested in excitement. In fact, I am sick of the casino. Just like how many of us hate to go to work daily. Once you get sick of it, it means you have treated it as a job and 99% of people hate their jobs. :p
If one goes into the casino and feels excited, it means he hasn't pass the phase of void of emotions.
 

sohbuckkong

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......If the shoe sucks with Players, at least I have an escape plan which is to wait for next shoe rather than incur more losses.

....

One thing about me is that I am not a believer of trends. In games of 50-50 chance, I always believe that finally both sides will equalise, henceforth, if there are many players in the beginning, I wont quit.
 
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I have nothing against fruit machines. But I always feel its like slashing my wrists and waiting for blood to drip dry. Slow suicide. :o

Games where you bet, and you feel your heart beat faster when card turns out or anticipating where the ball drops into which hole in roulette, its advisable to skip these games or work on ownself.

Excitement in gambling is when you try to predict the end result and bet on it. Win, everyone is happy. Lose, everyone is sad, angry, and most of the time the latter comes out more often.
I am not interested in excitement. In fact, I am sick of the casino. Just like how many of us hate to go to work daily. Once you get sick of it, it means you have treated it as a job and 99% of people hate their jobs. :p
If one goes into the casino and feels excited, it means he hasn't pass the phase of void of emotions.


Dear BROTHER SILVERFOX ,

CONGRATULATIONS you are the the realm of reaching the "Nirvana" of Baccarat playing .

i wish to dedicate this my favourite movie song from the SHELL GAME to you in my appreciation and brother your msg just reminded me of mr "tham sing" in the show ; he because the king of gambler in "the shell" game when he mastered " SIX KINS ( x 6 close relationships to you "in chinese" ) DON'T acknowledge/ boh chap "

please enjoy :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TK1Ic5EUxI
 

0939

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Alibaba,

I don't understand you. You bet banker and you won 8 in a row. In another word, you won 2 banker bets and stopped 2 rounds and bet banker another 2 round and you won and so on for until 16 rounds. You were wrong on 17th.
My question is why did you stop after winning 2 rounds. Did you foresee Player will be next on the card. If yes, why didn't you bet player like the joker.
I am trying to find out the patterns that you guys been playing.
 
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