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Superstitions. Pang tang some say.
Do you think the placing of how big or small the bet can influence the changing of arrangement of the cards that is going to come out? Seriously it can't.
If the kid won the $5000, are those who gave up their bets going to jump down from the ship?
When that kid lost that $5000, these people would be smarting as to how smart they are to have taken their bets out. But the truth is, if they really are so good, they would have millions by now.
Excuses? Maybe they justify by themselves for not placing a losing bet.
Yeah nothing changes the outcome. Everything is unknown, if ppl can know the outcome and win already no kick liao.
Gambling fascination. lol.
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I feel another part where we can improve is on money management.
If for example, you place a bet of 100 each time. Since can win 10 units, also can lose 10 units, why not, do it this way.
If you win, remain at 100 all the way, 10 units win will be 1000
If you lose 5 units already, reduce bet to 50. 10 units loss will be 750.
Remember if the shoe is no good for you, it could be good for another player, just like what Zuan Xin mentioned in his Queen of Clubs article.
Most important is how to reduce the losing.
I fully agree on this portion.
This is usually what I do, I will go for "3 kills" after observing this shoe. I can stand watching at the shoe for as long as 10-15 games before I strike. If I win 2 units out of 3 games, I will maximize further wins by utilizing this previous 2 units. If the results go against me, I shall go back to square one, and try for my next "3 kills".
Even if I lose, I will lose maximum 3 units only. From there, I will decide how many more units or bankroll do I want to recoup back the units that I lose earlier on.....
Maybe the majority thought that "heavy boat will capsize"? Or he has unknowingly placed the box as the 4th bet? Because these people think that 4th bet is a taboo. (4th is die in chinese)
I am organising a trip to macau on the 9th Jan 2009. Anyone keen can pm me.
I have done a study on money management and bankrolls for quite some time. And I have read many people's theories on martingale, double martingale or whatever they name it. In short, systems which pride itself on doubling up or increasing by a unit or so. Basically can win 1time, 2 time, 10 times even. But the time where you lose, it kills. The system is defeated by the table limit.
That is why when I read a lot of websites and books, the moment they start to say their system consists of adding unit here or there, I know the system is flawed and very flawed.
Actually I have this system in my mind for sometime which is a system on money management and just play on money management.
For instance, take PLAYER bets (that means all bets are going to be PLAYER, because of no Banker6 condition.) A total of Player bets are going to be placed in a shoe are 6 times. Because that is my expectation of winning that much units in a shoe. 6 units. Win max, I win 6 units. Lose max, I lose 6 units. Law of averages says I have 50/50. 50 % of winning, 50% of losing. So whenever I am winning I bet 1 unit. When I reached +6, I stop.
Whenever I am losing till -3, I reduce to 1/2 unit. When I hit -4.5 units, I stop.
So when to play bets? Very simple. At the 10th hand, 20th hand, 30th hand, 40th hand, 50th hand, 60th hand. Why every 10 hands. Because by spreading my bets over a shoe rather than playing them consecutively renders the house edge ineffective against my bets. If I place 20 hands in a shoe, I am subjected to the house edge which in turn can reduce my advantage.
That is why I never advise people to multi-task 2 tables because the house have double edge on you if you start multi-tasking bet on 2 tables. Also never run to another table if you lose on 1, but wait till the table shuffles a new shoe. This time-wasting is in fact reducing the effect of house edge on us.
I have not played the above system, because it is a system where have one has to play 50 shoes to see whether it works or don't work. Today may win, tomorrow may lose. But i have confidence it works because its on money management. But don't expect to get rich using such a system. Maybe some of you who are keen can improvise on it. That means your target win could be only 4 units in a shoe. So max you win 4, or max lose 4.
Think of key ways in reducing loss
in reducing house edge by spreading bets over a period of time. This way will not be subjected to erratic thrends, streaks, or human error shoes.
(Yes, human error shoes are shoes where the table could have an extra card drawn and no one noticed. Or an extra card burnt, or forgetting to burn a card. Please take notice, human error shoes could be drastic as results could be totally unexpected. I have seen halting of a game for some time due to forgetting to burn a card. As the card for the player, would actually be gone to the banker side and vice versa instead.) :o
I have done a study on money management and bankrolls for quite some time. And I have read many people's theories on martingale, double martingale or whatever they name it. In short, systems which pride itself on doubling up or increasing by a unit or so. Basically can win 1time, 2 time, 10 times even. But the time where you lose, it kills.
I fully agree on this.
For instance, take PLAYER bets (that means all bets are going to be PLAYER, because of no Banker6 condition.) A total of Player bets are going to be placed in a shoe are 6 times. Because that is my expectation of winning that much units in a shoe. 6 units. Win max, I win 6 units. Lose max, I lose 6 units. Law of averages says I have 50/50. 50 % of winning, 50% of losing. So whenever I am winning I bet 1 unit. When I reached +6, I stop.
Whenever I am losing till -3, I reduce to 1/2 unit. When I hit -4.5 units, I stop.
I also have thought of this system for quite long time and I guess this is the only closest system to winning apart from martingale. Another variation is that suppose we play 1 unit each time and start to lose, so lets say we lose 6 times, then we can increase the stake to 2 units each time and so if we win 6 times thereafter, then we have made 6 units ( 2 x 3) and from here we reset out count to 0.
So when to play bets? Very simple. At the 10th hand, 20th hand, 30th hand, 40th hand, 50th hand, 60th hand. Why every 10 hands. Because by spreading my bets over a shoe rather than playing them consecutively renders the house edge ineffective against my bets. If I place 20 hands in a shoe, I am subjected to the house edge which in turn can reduce my advantage.
I disagree on the above because the house edge applies to every game irregardless on which game to come in. I prefer playing continuously so that I can follow the law of averages, law of chances more accurately.
I fully agree on this.
For instance, take PLAYER bets (that means all bets are going to be PLAYER, because of no Banker6 condition.) A total of Player bets are going to be placed in a shoe are 6 times. Because that is my expectation of winning that much units in a shoe. 6 units. Win max, I win 6 units. Lose max, I lose 6 units. Law of averages says I have 50/50. 50 % of winning, 50% of losing. So whenever I am winning I bet 1 unit. When I reached +6, I stop.
Whenever I am losing till -3, I reduce to 1/2 unit. When I hit -4.5 units, I stop.
I also have thought of this system for quite long time and I guess this is the only closest system to winning apart from martingale. Another variation is that suppose we play 1 unit each time and start to lose, so lets say we lose 6 times, then we can increase the stake to 2 units each time and so if we win 6 times thereafter, then we have made 6 units ( 2 x 3) and from here we reset out count to 0.
So when to play bets? Very simple. At the 10th hand, 20th hand, 30th hand, 40th hand, 50th hand, 60th hand. Why every 10 hands. Because by spreading my bets over a shoe rather than playing them consecutively renders the house edge ineffective against my bets. If I place 20 hands in a shoe, I am subjected to the house edge which in turn can reduce my advantage.
I disagree on the above because the house edge applies to every game irregardless on which game to come in. I prefer playing continuously so that I can follow the law of averages, law of chances more accurately.
The system on the 2nd part is dangerous when you start to increase to 2 units each time. There is a high possibility that not even a single win will come out from the next 6 chances. If 1st 6 chances don't open, 2nd 6 chances can still don't open. Unless when you win 6 times, you increase your bets to 2 units each time. But this in turn makes your betting system equal in chances on either winning or losing side.
Playing continuously and spread playing.
There are let's say 99 shoes.
33 shoes have banker streak
33 shoes have player streak
33 shoes have ding-dong streak
There is no single way whereby one can win every shoe without fail unless (he don't lay a single bet.)
This shoe don't work for you, another will.
Placing 20 hands in a shoe gives you a possibility of winning 20 units max. It also gives you a chance to lose 20 units max.
How many times would you be able to win 20? so we have to depend on law of averages and after plus minus, we probably end up with profits(if any) 3-4 units, or even better would be 8-10 units win.
to win 4 units by placing bets 20 times in a shoe and
to win 4 units by placing bets 6 times in a shoe,
the end result is the same, however the effect is different.
House edge is against us, and betting extra 14 times, with the commission on Banker bets, it dries up even further in a single shoe.
That is why Baccarat is a game where if your target is to win 10 units, you must place big bets. Then only will you see money.
10 units of $10 and 10 units of $1000, that is the difference.
I may not be entirely right in my analysis, but I have seen a lot of such situations where winning 4 units in a shoe is not hard. By placing many bets and placing that few selective bets. I can control the losing part. By placing many bets, the losing part is out of one's control already.
Thanks, I will take heed of the above.
The problem with me is I always tend to play every game, which expose myself to greater risk of losing.
I should limit my number of games per shoe, and maximize my units per game. And see how it goes.....
When I limit my number of hands per shoe that I bet to only 10 hands where I actually placed a bet, the feeling is very bored.
But you just tell yourself 1 thing. You rather feel bored and win or you rather play shiok shiok and lose?
Technically, in my opinion, by playing more or less game, your risk exposure remains the same in terms of percentage. So lets say when you play baccarat, the dealer will have an overall of about 1.5 to 2% advantage over a player irregardless of the number of games you played.
Money management is the key of success in playing against the casinos.
hi bro,
House edge is something which is very hard to explain technically. I also don't quite know how to explain it fully.
It's something like in Baccarat Banker 6 bets has to pay a commission of 50%. The more bets spreaded in a shoe, the exposure to B6 is higher than spreading less bets out. Something along the lines like this.
However, money management is indeed a key factor. However, my take on money management is more on bankroll factor, cut loss factor and not on progressive betting when losing.
That means those double up or 3 units up etc, is something which I think is a no-no as 20 losing hands can happen, not to even talk about 10 losing hands in a row.
House edge is something which is very hard to explain technically. I also don't quite know how to explain it fully.
Lets assume that Banker has approximately 2% advantage over player, it means that on the average, out of 100 games, banker will win 51 times whilst player will win 49 times and the house advantage will be 3% (5% - 2%), which means that on average, if we turnover $100, we will lose $3. Thats why for every $100 that we rolled, the casino operator will give those rolling companies about 1.8% and in turn we get 1%. So for every $100 that we rolled, the casino make $1.20, the rolling company make $0.80.
However, money management is indeed a key factor. However, my take on money management is more on bankroll factor, cut loss factor and not on progressive betting when losing.
Irregardless of whichever system that one play, if I place my bet in such a way that if I win, I only win a little and if I lose I lose a lot, then theres no way we can win against casinos and thats exactly how all of us place our stake and that is why all of us ended up losers and our losing stories are the same. Henceforth the winning method is obvious and thats what I meant by money management.
That means those double up or 3 units up etc, is something which I think is a no-no as 20 losing hands can happen, not to even talk about 10 losing hands in a row.
The surest way to win is to use the martingale. Unfortunately, with limits imposed, we cant use the martingale. Playing semi-martingale is a disaster for working class people because of our limited capital. We cant withstand the lose. Based on the law of chance, out of 10 times, we will guess 5 times right and 5 times wrong, the problem with us is that out of the 5 times that we guess correctly, we usually only win about 5 units and out of the 5 times that we guess wrongly, we lose more than 5 units and so the nett result is a lose thats why almost all of us usually end up as losers. This is natural.
Lets assume that Banker has approximately 2% advantage over player, it means that on the average, out of 100 games, banker will win 51 times whilst player will win 49 times and the house advantage will be 3% (5% - 2%), which means that on average, if we turnover $100, we will lose $3. Thats why for every $100 that we rolled, the casino operator will give those rolling companies about 1.8% and in turn we get 1%. So for every $100 that we rolled, the casino make $1.20, the rolling company make $0.80.
However, money management is indeed a key factor. However, my take on money management is more on bankroll factor, cut loss factor and not on progressive betting when losing.
Irregardless of whichever system that one play, if I place my bet in such a way that if I win, I only win a little and if I lose I lose a lot, then theres no way we can win against casinos and thats exactly how all of us place our stake and that is why all of us ended up losers and our losing stories are the same. Henceforth the winning method is obvious and thats what I meant by money management.
That means those double up or 3 units up etc, is something which I think is a no-no as 20 losing hands can happen, not to even talk about 10 losing hands in a row.
The surest way to win is to use the martingale. Unfortunately, with limits imposed, we cant use the martingale. Playing semi-martingale is a disaster for working class people because of our limited capital. We cant withstand the lose. Based on the law of chance, out of 10 times, we will guess 5 times right and 5 times wrong, the problem with us is that out of the 5 times that we guess correctly, we usually only win about 5 units and out of the 5 times that we guess wrongly, we lose more than 5 units and so the nett result is a lose thats why almost all of us usually end up as losers. This is natural.
Bro,
I am analysing something which is actually to throw out all my knowledge of Baccarat and go back to square 1.
Banker has a 50.8% of occuring. But lest not be mistaken.
Even if Banker opens 8 out of 1st 10 hands. On the 11th hand, it doesn't mean Banker's percentage of appearing is lower or even higher. It is still 50.8% chance.
I am breaking up the way we read thrends of Baccarat. The Asian method does it this way
Example
BB
PPPP
B
p
B
P
BTBTBBTB
PPTP
BB
PP
BB
PPP
It's meant to mislead.
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Dear SohBuckKong ,
Just read your update. With Thanks. i am going to Long Jie ( Omar ) today
to try this : martingale system .
i think i have found the big bacarat tip ... tk
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