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Dole43

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Re: Canada's happiest cities

I can't believe that 92.1% of Canadians would choose those motley cities over Toronto or Montreal.

#2 Brantford & #11 Guelph are not exactly motley cities, they are 1 hour from downtown Toronto. For someone living in Guelph, it is the same as someone living in Simei or Bt Panjang, they can go to the city if they commute, otherwise they have everything they need where they live. If you are a student, you have 4 universities to choose from, University of Guelph, Waterloo University (Steven Hawkins is there), MacMaster University, and University of Toronto. Much better than the student living in Simei finding his way to NTU.
 
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nayr69sg

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I guess most people living in Singapore will not understand. To them only big famous cities are good places to live in.

Any place they have not heard of they imagine it as some countryside deserted town.

I remember when I resigned, the CEO asked me where I was migrating to. I told him Edmonton. He replied is it some "ulu ulu area? I only know of Toronto and Vancouver."

I told him, "yeah really ulu, I will have to go to the well to fetch water in a bucket"
 

cass888

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I guess most people living in Singapore will not understand. To them only big famous cities are good places to live in.

Any place they have not heard of they imagine it as some countryside deserted town.

I remember when I resigned, the CEO asked me where I was migrating to. I told him Edmonton. He replied is it some "ulu ulu area? I only know of Toronto and Vancouver."

I told him, "yeah really ulu, I will have to go to the well to fetch water in a bucket"

Edmonton isn't too bad, but it isn't even on the list. But Saskatoon? Quebec City instead of Montreal? Ottawa-Gatineau????????? May be the capital but do you people even know how ulu it is?
 

mayliewwan

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Re: Canada's happiest cities

How come you did not included York, Ryerson , Wilfred Laurier or Ontario College of Arts and Design???


#2 Brantford & #11 Guelph are not exactly motley cities, they are 1 hour from downtown Toronto. For someone living in Guelph, it is the same as someone living in Simei or Bt Panjang, they can go to the city if they commute, otherwise they have everything they need where they live. If you are a student, you have 4 universities to choose from, University of Guelph, Waterloo University (Steven Hawkins is there), MacMaster University, and University of Toronto. Much better than the student living in Simei finding his way to NTU.
 

mayliewwan

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One reason that I had heard before on why Edmonton is hardly mentioned in national or international rankings is because Edmonton is too similar to Calgary. Calgary has the advantage because Banff is at its doorstep.
Ottawa ulu??? Have you been to Ottawa??? Looks like whites and Asians have different priorities.
 

nayr69sg

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Edmonton isn't too bad, but it isn't even on the list. But Saskatoon? Quebec City instead of Montreal? Ottawa-Gatineau????????? May be the capital but do you people even know how ulu it is?

Really so ulu ar? Must go to well and fetch water with bucket? No supermarkets?

No Walmart? No Canadian Superstore? No Canadian Tire? No Macdonald's? No Tim Horton's? No Internet? No TV?

How ulu?

At some stage, you have to ask yourself what is it that you want in life.

It was interesting last wednesday when I went to school and my kids had to demonstrate what they learn in school.

One of the topics my son had to explain to us was how he studied about Ukraine, India and some other countries. He also had to tell us what constituted a "good quality of life".

I thought this was way advanced for an 8 year old. So I asked him. He replied "fresh clean water, food, shelter, power supply, amenities, health care, peaceful surroundings, and family".

Man they teach kids these things in Canada. Maybe the Asian definition of "not ulu" is a place where everyone is working like man with lots of money in the bank and live in modern high class houses and drive sports cars.
 

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No Walmart? No Canadian Superstore? No Canadian Tire? No Macdonald's? No Tim Horton's? No Internet? No TV?

If that is your test of "not ulu" then even the university towns will have the Canadian Tire / Walmart / kmarts / A&P / Zellers.
 

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Toronto the most miserable city in Canada

Toronto the most miserable city in Canada

Post Media News – 26 Nov 2010

Bigger may not be better after all.

A study conducted by the Canadian Centre for the Study of Living Standards has concluded what many Canadians have long believed: That Toronto is the most miserable city in the country.

Despite having the country's largest GDP and population, the megacity ranks lowest on the happiness scale. The study used data from the Canadian Community Health Survey for 2007 and 2008 to determine the happiness of various regions of Canada and the factors which contribute to the variation.

While Toronto came in at the bottom of the list (Sherbrooke, Que., was at the top), citizens of the megacity can take comfort in the fact, on average, they remain a fairly happy bunch. Toronto scored a 4.15 out of 5 on the happiness scale while Sherbrooke scored a 4.37. This means citizens in the happiest city were only about 5.5 per cent happier than in the least contented.

The study also hinted at the reasons for Toronto's relative unhappiness. A key finding of the study is that "the most important reason for geographical variation in happiness in Canada is differences in the sense of belonging to local communities, which is generally higher in small CMAs, rural areas, and Atlantic Canada."

Stress was also an important determinant of happiness, something found in great abundance on Toronto subways and highways each morning. And while household income did help with happiness, the benefits it offered were scant. A 10 per cent increase in income increased the number of people "very satisfied with life" by just 0.6 per cent.

The report suggests Canada consider a new metric for measuring success, one originally championed by the tiny Buddhist nation of Bhutan and now taken up by France and the United Kingdom: Gross national happiness.

The new index would give Canadians something to feel good about while our GDP continues to stagnate.
 

wendypoh

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Re: Toronto the most miserable city in Canada

Toronto scored a 4.15 out of 5 on the happiness scale while Sherbrooke scored a 4.37. This means citizens in the happiest city were only about 5.5 per cent happier than in the least contented.

Toronto scored 4.15 out of 5 on the happiness scale.

That is still pretty high but lose out to most other happier cities.

It is not like Whitehorse, Yukon Territory or Iqaluit, Nunavut.
 

Charlie99

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Re: Canadian Asian Community

I don't know about you guys. But I think that the Asian culture is the miserable one.

Over work. Greed. Status conscious. Competitive. Selfish.

Personally I'd stay away from areas that are brimming with Asians.

I agree. I have only a few Canadian Chinese friends.
 

nayr69sg

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If that is your test of "not ulu" then even the university towns will have the Canadian Tire / Walmart / kmarts / A&P / Zellers.

Yup. Anyway I am not the one going around saying this and that Canadian city is ulu.

Which brings me to the question. What do you guys mean when you say "ulu"?
 

nayr69sg

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Re: Canadian Asian Community

I agree. I have only a few Canadian Chinese friends.

No surprise that Toronto is the most "miserable" city relative to the rest of Canada. I won't be surprised if the second most "miserable" city is Vancouver. And no secret what the reason is although they won't say it outright.
 

nayr69sg

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You know what?

I just went to check the original article.

http://www.csls.ca/reports/csls2010-09.pdf

Go to page 21. Second from bottom of the list above Toronto .......drum roll.....VANCOUVER!

I was right!

BC and Ontario are also at the bottom on the provinces list.

In any case, the whole of Canada is generally still a happy bunch. So that's good news. It's just relative comparisons internally that are intriguing.
 

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Re: Competitive, Greedy, Selfish and Status Conscious

I don't know about you guys. But I think that the Asian culture is the miserable one.

Over work. Greed. Status conscious. Competitive. Selfish.

Personally I'd stay away from areas that are brimming with Asians.

I consider myself an odd ball, because, unlike other Torontonian of Chinese descent, I do not wear a Rolex watch, and I do not drive a BMW, Lexus, or Mercedes, although I am neither rich nor poor, and can afford to own (rather than lease) one of those motor vehicles, as they are not that expensive in Toronto.

I know of half a dozen individuals in Toronto, who are of Chinese descent:

1. one of the managers at my first job in Toronto; he was born in SG but married to an Irish woman; very welcoming fellow who always treated new immigrants very well

2. a younger Vietnamese Chinese, who did not have any formal schooling due to the war at that time, but is a very smart fellow (strong in computer software, but is a member of my profession), married to a PRC woman

3. a younger lawyer (also a classical violinist), who was born in NZ, when his Canadian Chinese parents were there, married to a Taiwanese woman

4. a HK Chinese lawyer, Chinese TV personality (had her own TV and radio show in the past) who is married to an Internal Medicine specialist of Chinese descent. We used to do volunteer work at the Toronto Chinese and SEA Legal Clinic.

5. my wife (who is a green-eye blonde) has a very good friend who is of Chinese descent from Cambodia, and married to a pathologist (also a concert violinist) who is a SG Chinese (parents and siblings are all medical doctors).
 

Dole43

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You know what?

I just went to check the original article.

http://www.csls.ca/reports/csls2010-09.pdf

Go to page 21. Second from bottom of the list above Toronto .......drum roll.....VANCOUVER!

I was right!

BC and Ontario are also at the bottom on the provinces list.

In any case, the whole of Canada is generally still a happy bunch. So that's good news. It's just relative comparisons internally that are intriguing.

This supports my theory that certain types of people, when choosing between options where to live, tend to gravitate to places where other like-minded end up, and when enough of them gather they define the behavior for that area.

Going by province level is too broad to be meaningful, whether in BC GVA or Ont GTA, one can choose between high-stress high-density places where the money and action is, or low-stress laid-back communities with nature and serenity. Take a drive on anywhere, cars behave and keep in lane in low-density areas, until you drive into a population centre, then you encounter bad driving, and then once past the area, the drive becomes smooth again. Another way to measure is to look at the cars relative to the homes. I used to live on a street with starter houses and there are many new Mercedes, BMW, Acura, Infinity swanking about. Then I moved to a different location and I hardly see premium brand cars though I'm sure the residents are more affluent can easily afford them. In the former place, the houses are packed close together side by side yet people hardly give a 2nd glance. In my present place, the houses are spaced out yet people know their neighbours and their dogs.
 

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"Gross national happiness."

all the countries who ever talked about GNH have shit infrastructure, high mortality rates, or going bankrupt ...
 
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