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wendychan

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/feb/11/tesco-spaghetti-bolognese-horsemeat


Tesco says some of its value spaghetti bolognese contains 60% horsemeat

Tesco has admitted its value range of spaghetti bolognese contains more than 60% horsemeat as fresh DNA tests began to reveal new products affected by the scandal.

Staff had already removed the Everyday Value range from stores because they had been supplied by the same company, Comigel, who made the Findus lasagne that contained 100% horsemeat.

Further revelations are expected throughout the week, as the Food Standards Agency has ordered UK suppliers and retailers to undertake DNA tests on their meat and supply results by Friday.

The announcement came amid a growing war of words between the supermarkets, processors and producers over who is to blame for the scandal, with Comigel claiming the trail led back to Romania - something which was vigorously denied by the Romanian government.

Ministers were also accused of sending conflicting messages about the safety of horsemeat after Downing Street contradicted the environment secretary, Owen Paterson, by announcing that there is no risk to human health from the current food scare. Paterson's suggested on Sunday that there may be a health risk if any horsemeat was found to be contaminated with the anti-inflammatory drug phenylbutazone, or "bute".

There had been fears that Paterson's remarks would damage confidence in the UK meat industry. The shadow environment secretary Mary Creagh said the confusion was symptomatic of a minister and a government that "had showed dangerous complacency over the crisis". Confidence in the British food industry has been sinking like a stone, she added accusing Paterson of incompetence.

Downing Street cited the chief medical officer, Dame Sally Davies, who said on Monday that there was only a "limited public health risk" if bute, was found in new tests results. Tesco has tested its tainted products and none was found. Davies confirmed there was "currently no indication" bute was present in any product so far identified in the UK.

Despite this the Food Standards Agency ordered new rapid testing for bute in all horsemeat prepared for export as food from the five UK-licensed abattoirs that slaughter 9,000 horses a year between them, nearly all of which is exported. Up to now, random testing used techniques that took three weeks to deliver results and positive results were reported by the Food Standards Agency to the country to which the food was exported.

The government's insistence that there is no safety problem with horsemeat was also contradicted by the independent Veterinary Residues Committee, which advises the government, which stated in July 2012: "The VRC has repeatedly expressed concern over residues of phenylbutazone entering the food chain. This is because this substance has the potential for serious adverse effects in consumers, such as blood discrasia (a rare but very serious, life-threatening, condition)."

The VRC found that 2-5% of UK horse samples had tested positive for bute residues since 2007. One member of the VRC told the Guardian that the horse passport system, designed to record all drugs a horse is given through their life to ensure they do not end up in the food chain, was failing. "This is not acceptable," the member said. "The passport system needs a deal of tightening up."

Announcing the withdrawal of its spaghetti bolognese Tim Smith, group technical director at Tesco, said: "The source of the horsemeat is still under investigation by the relevant authorities. The level of contamination suggests that Comigel was not following the appropriate production process for our Tesco product and we will not take food from their facility again."

The apparently mixed health messages came after Romania, implicated in France as a source for horsemeat found in beef lasagne made for Findus, denied any part in the crisis. Romania's agriculture minister Daniel Constantin angrily said an official investigation had exonerated his country's abattoirs. Instead, he blamed unnamed European companies involved in the supply chain. A statement on his official Facebook page said: "We will not take responsibility over what is not of our own doing, in that we will not tolerate the faults of a European contractor to be transferred onto Romania without any real basis."

He added that two Romanian companies under investigation had now been officially cleared.

The Guardian understands the two abattoirs are located in and near the town of Suceava, 282 miles north of Bucharest, and close to the borders with Ukraine and Moldova. Romanian authorities swiftly ruled out the first abattoir, which produces horsemeat only. Constantin said the second had also been cleared, adding that it had an exemplary seven-year history.

One leading Romanian food company, CarmOlimp based in Transylvania, vehemently denied on Monday it was involved in mislabelling. The company is a major producer and distributor of meat.

The horsemeat scandal started after the Food Safety Authority of Ireland discovered traces of equine DNA in burgers made by Silvercrest Foods and Dalepak suppliers, owned by ABP Food Group, last month.

Findus is currently considering suing Comigel for supplying horsemeat from its Luxembourg factory. Comigel is also taking legal advice on pursing Spanghero – a French company who provided the meat to Comigel from Romanian suppliers.
 

wendychan

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some supermakets here are selling UK products
and there are TESCO supermakets in malaysia. not sure if they carry the house label tho
 
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halsey02

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some supermakets here are selling UK products


Yup I have seen Findus here...wonder if the cheap price sausages in the frozen department contains what it is stated, or the luncheon meat from China..wonder if AVA does spot checking or are they sleeping like "masters", without spurs in their hide...waiting for something massive to happen?..what do you think??

Oh be fore I forget, one "tony" here will say be VEGETARIAN..
 
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TikeMyson

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Yup I have seen Findus here...wonder if the cheap price sausages in the frozen department contains what it is stated, or the luncheon meat from China....

Processed food like sausages already contain a lot of rubbish and for sure those cheap ones from China would have even more unhealthy and dangerous ingredients. People always focus and condemn China these days , and rightfully so because there are so many cheats there but the West and Australia are also guilty of such things. Kangaroo meat used to be passed of as beef many years ago, and the Brits tried to sell their 'mad cow' beef ( in the early 2000s ) even though they knew it could be contaminated .
The greed of these unscrupulous businessmen cause them to do lots of bad things which endanger others' lives.
This latest episode doesnt surprise me.
 

andyfisher

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After the tiongland melamine scare now got england horsemeat scare. knn think only of money and this is what happens

For my family, I never buy processed meat, you can easily make hamburger patties at home, and actual real meat is way better than the processed crap they sell.

Now even organic might not be organic cos there are differences in organic, knn, makan also want to bedek bedek, ccb

Please be more discerning as to what you and your family consume.
 

t0nychat

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You low life sinkies, it won't be a problem if you all eat grass like me! I mean be a vegan like me!

I T0NYCHAT obviously dun eat beef. I just fuck cows and suck milk from their nipples. But I just dun eat cow meat! Understand?
 

halsey02

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You low life sinkies, it won't be a problem if you all eat grass like me! I mean be a vegan like me!

I T0NYCHAT obviously dun eat beef. I just fuck cows and suck milk from their nipples. But I just dun eat cow meat! Understand?

Nice to know that you are farking a vegetarian..cow don't eat meat!!
 

halsey02

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Horse meat is a delicacy in certain parts of the world.

The French is now doing some damage control & is coming out with news that, horse meat had been eaten there for a long time & it is alright, it is.. The point is not that eating horse meat is bad, Asians eat dog meat, Chinese will eat anything that was four legs expect the table ( I read this quote somewhere).

The thing is, the content is labeled as BEEF & the consumers should be getting beef not HORSE MEAT or any other meat. Just the recent scandal here, where it was supposedly to be BEEF, it was KAMBING.

This is what we call cheating..but this sound familiar in a SINgapore context, the MIW's have been selling to the SINgaporeans Premium "BEEF" products, but actually they substituted it with "horse meat", "carabao meat", " pork"...& then when caught...the same excuse, meat is meat, whatever meat can be eaten...including the SIngaporeans... ha ha ha ha
 
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Wendy, you do realise this is happening in england and not spore right?

Wendy is not missing the point. Knowing the high standards of miws, would it be a surprise if the EU scandal is also of relevance in sinkapore ? Pork / horsemeat / boarmeat / dogmeat / catmeat / etc

Not forgetting the makeup of cooking oil used.......... especially in fried chickens, goreng pisang, yu tiao, roti prata, mee goreng, etc.. Are they definitely using quality cooking oils ? I am never comfortable thinking about the disposal of those waste oil collected from kopitiam oil sumps in the sewer, for example.
 

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Not forgetting the makeup of cooking oil used.......... especially in fried chickens, goreng pisang, yu tiao, roti prata, mee goreng, etc.. Are they definitely using quality cooking oils ? I am never comfortable thinking about the disposal of those waste oil collected from kopitiam oil sumps in the sewer, for example.

duck brand oil? not very healthy.. i believe

that's one reason, i try not to eat hawker food. not coz im high class bull shit, but.....
 

halsey02

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Wendy is not missing the point. Knowing the high standards of miws, would it be a surprise if the EU scandal is also of relevance in sinkapore ? Pork / horsemeat / boarmeat / dogmeat / catmeat / etc

Not forgetting the makeup of cooking oil used.......... especially in fried chickens, goreng pisang, yu tiao, roti prata, mee goreng, etc.. Are they definitely using quality cooking oils ? I am never comfortable thinking about the disposal of those waste oil collected from kopitiam oil sumps in the sewer, for example.

They hawkers buy the lowest quality of Palm Oil, that is made from oil palm dregs ( I hope I got the name right), that is after the quality oil is squeeze they squeeze the leftover again & that is the oil they use. The next grade will be for those used in lighting at the altars.

The cooking oil they collect are recycle into bio fuel, I think they have a huge plant at Tuas South Avenue 12 or something.

Not only oils, they use cheapest quality of vegetables, meats & so forth.
 

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duck brand oil? not very healthy.. i believe

that's one reason, i try not to eat hawker food. not coz im high class bull shit, but.....

Duck brand oil is palm oil produce in Malaysia (Kedah). It's those unbranded oil in tins supplied to those kopitiam stalls and food production joints found in industrial estates that are the worry. Those that produce little curry puffs, fried fish balls, fied chicken, etc. Someone should check on the oil used.
 
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wendychan

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Duck brand oil is palm oil produce in Malaysia (Kedah). It's those unbranded oil in tins supplied to those kopitiam stalls and food production joints found in industrial estates that are the worry. Those that produce little curry puffs, fried fish balls, fied chicken, etc. Someone should check on the oil used.

i dont think any authorities will check on oil until someone dies, maybe.
if hawkers have to use a more expensive brand of oil, then price of food will go up etc et c etc
 

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I think I will just have to be careful about buying anything that contains processed meats and preservatives, or buy these things very infrequently.
 
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