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Australia: From workers' paradise to workers' hellhole

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This news appears behind a paywall so I have to remove the original title and author to post here. (Like as if it helps :biggrin:)


The Great OZ Middle class ~ copy ~ US of A

10 hours ago

As Australian companies announce their half-yearly results, few are pondering the fundamental and unique changes taking place in Australia. This week I will look at some of them.

The first and most important is that we are about to follow the United States in seeing a decline in the middle class and rise in the number of people on high incomes, and an even sharper rise in those on low incomes. Apart from the dramatic effect this will have on a great many lives, in the US it has also required a different approach to managing enterprises.

In post-war Australia, most of the major trends we have experienced have duplicated what took place in the US a year or two earlier. Last week’s rise in Australian unemployment caught many analysts on the wrong foot, but it was really only confirmation that we are headed in the same direction as the United States. And there is a lot further to go.

The biggest single change in American society over the last five to 10 years has been the dramatic decline of the middle class. And the factors that caused that reduction are being duplicated in Australia. Analysis by Michael Snyder shows that six years ago some 53 per cent of all Americans considered themselves to be ‘middle class’. Now it’s only 44 per cent – and falling.

In 2008, a quarter of all Americans in the 18 to 29-year-old age bracket considered themselves to be ‘lower class’. In 2014, that has doubled to an astounding 49 per cent of youngsters believing they are in the lower class. The movement to lower incomes is worst among young people, who can’t gain employment. Retailers like Sears and JC Penney, which relied on the middle class, are now struggling. There is a very similar pattern in the United Kingdom, where retailers who service the middle class are in decline.

Real disposable income in the United States in 2013 experienced their largest ever drop since 1974. The medium household income has fallen for five years in a row, while the rate of home ownership has fallen for eight consecutive years. You can go on and on.

Why should Australia duplicate what has taken place in the US and the UK? Put simply: because we have adopted the same policies and strategies. The US transferred much of its manufacturing operation to China and, in doing so, it decimated a vast number of middle-class workers.

Some 15 years ago, I can remember dining with a top Chinese official who confessed he was staggered that the US would allow its manufacturing skills base to be decimated. He knew what it would mean to American income structures. At that time, the US believed manufacturing jobs would be replaced by the services sector, not realising that just as many of those jobs would go offshore on the back of internet technology.

In Australia, there will be some 100,000 to 150,000 people set to lose their jobs in the motor business, including all the groups that provide support services. The great bulk of these people are middle class. Similarly, the dismantling of the mining investment industry and the very big reductions in retail selling in stores will each have a similar effect on the middle class population of the country (A tsunami warning for business and executives, February 11).

A whole generation of young people in both Australia and the US who are now aged in their thirties and forties thought that IT was the way go and trained themselves accordingly. They secured good middle-class jobs. But now more and more of the work is being transferred offshore and many IT workers now struggle.

In Australia, call centre work got the unions into the area and made work practices difficult for people operating in Australia. Vast chunks of the business were then transferred offshore, again hitting the middle class.

My belief is that, following the US, the movement of jobs offshore in motor industries, IT, retail and (in Australia) mining investment will hit male workers the hardest.

And once again, the staggering accompanying graph shows that the Americans are the trailblazers.

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Male labor force participation in the US. Source: Zero Hedge.

I asked Morgan Research to give me some indicators as to what is happening to male employment in Australia and we discovered that current full-time male employment is lower than two years ago, whereas female employment is higher. Surprisingly, in the part-time area males are doing better than two years ago and females not as well. Male mining employment is well down, as is retail.

Conversely, female retail employment is holding. Both males and females will of course be affected by this downturn, but the male community – particularly those coming out of the motor industry – will find it hard to gain employment.

Unfortunately those employed in the motor industry had a work practice agreement that was a big contributor to them losing their jobs. Managers didn’t manage – it was all down to committees.

To get jobs, these males are going to have to learn a totally new work ethic and method that will involve a far simpler management process where unions will not be greatly involved. There simply aren’t the profit margins anymore to afford the luxury of inefficient labour agreements.

Increasingly, independent contracting is going to be the way for both male and female employment. Those who have operated in very strict award situations are going to find adapting tough. Many will move out of the work force, lowering the participation rate and masking underemployment.

I might add that as the public service is reduced, government employees will also find it extremely difficult to adapt their working patterns to get jobs. What happened in the US was that the jobs that did emerge tended to be lower-paid jobs, which is why so many more people see themselves in the ‘lower class’.

In Australia, the Abbott Government will attempt to overcome this problem by deregulation and investment in infrastructure. There is no doubt that will help, but unless the Australian dollar falls substantially from its current levels, more and more work will go overseas.

Just to make it more difficult for the middle class, we have increased salaries of carers and child minders but in the process we have priced many potential customers out of the market and forced grandparents into doing this work for nothing. All this means is that companies that are serving the middle class need to watch very carefully how their demand patterns are moving. It might be necessary to organise products and services that are either up market or downmarket.

In the US, companies have responded with enormous productivity drives.They are way ahead of Australia, but we will follow.
 
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This is what happens when wages and benefits far outstrip productivity levels.
 

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Anyone remember what dumbfuck opposition politician Tan Jee Say said during GE2011. He wants all manufacturing to move out of SG. The article confirms that Tan Jee say is a fucking retard
 

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This is what happens when wages and benefits far outstrip productivity levels.

I spoke to Toyota people, the problem is quite complex.

Toyota actually want to remain in Australia because it is their first overseas factory and they are proud of that.

BUT

1. Australia is signing a FTA with Korea which will allow the the Hyundais and Kia to flood Australia market. Meanwhile, the existing FTA with US, Thailand, etc do not allow the Aussie made Camry to be exported overseas cheaply.

2. The money that are due to advance the local motor industry was diverted to the QLD floods and other disasters. So, Ford, followed by GM, decided to go. Mind you, the Holden SA plant is more productive than Toyota's VIC plant, just that there have not been R & D in Holden and GM is not interested in making better quality cars.

3. Toyota made a boo boo when forcefully "clean-up" militant unionists last April, and the unpopular Labor govt criticised this move. This allowed the unionists to move in to demand for the 'control' of Toyota's shop floor. Basically, Toyota reject and asked the Fair Work umpire to step in. For some stupid reasons that only Pommies are capable of, the umpire sided with the unions and the stone is cast.

4. The early warning bells of closure was missed by the unions - they failed to see that Toyota Australia CEO returned empty-handed. They lost the Middle East export contract and lost the contract to continue manufacturing Camry in Australia before 2017?.

There are many more reasons. Productivity is only a small part in this. In fact, the productivity commission made a mistake in calculating productivity for a car manufacturer, making it sound like Australia has low productivity in making cars.

They forgot about the subsidies and trade protection laws which other countries enjoy. This is why Singapore is capable but refuse to make cars. (Am I right? Samleong.)
 
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I spoke to Toyota people, the problem is quite complex.

When it comes to running a manufacturing plant, the formula is very simple.

If the plant makes good profit margins, it will survive no matter what.

If a plant isn't profitable, it will shut down sooner or later no matter what.

I experienced this first hand when the company I worked for shut the Singapore plant in 1985.

Despite all the advantages of operating in Singapore, the fact that the Malaysian plant made a lot more money meant that transferring production lines there made sound business sense.

The infrastructure and logistical support was inferior and they also had to shut production down on a regular basis for prayers but it didn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
 

neddy

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When it comes to running a manufacturing plant, the formula is very simple.

If the plant makes good profit margins, it will survive no matter what.

If a plant isn't profitable, it will shut down sooner or later no matter what.

I experienced this first hand when the company I worked for shut the Singapore plant in 1985.

If that is the case, It is taking Toyota a long time to make this decision.
Toyota started a factory in a workers' paradise with eyes open wide.


The big H that send fear down Toyota is moving from strength to strength.

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/moto...-mix-of-science-black-art-20131017-2vp0p.html

Hyundai, no longer bashful about its plunge into an exacting game-changing program aimed at giving its products an Australianised ride and handling package, now senses it will have a dynamic advantage over its Japanese and, yes, its European rivals.



hyundai-ix35_600g-600x400.jpg


If it drives well in Australia, it will have no problem anywhere else, incl France and ... Malaysia.
“I’d rather drive a car tuned in Australia than one tuned in Europe. The concept of a Germanic suspension tune works well on the autobahns, but less so on not-so-smooth roads. There is more variety of roads here – everything from corrugated gravel to coarse bitumen.
 
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890aw

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When it comes to running a manufacturing plant, the formula is very simple.

If the plant makes good profit margins, it will survive no matter what.

If a plant isn't profitable, it will shut down sooner or later no matter what.

I experienced this first hand when the company I worked for shut the Singapore plant in 1985.

Despite all the advantages of operating in Singapore, the fact that the Malaysian plant made a lot more money meant that transferring production lines there made sound business sense.

The infrastructure and logistical support was inferior and they also had to shut production down on a regular basis for prayers but it didn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

So would you say you are a Toyota fan? I think at the end of the day, all businesses are the same. They are driven by profit margins and no matter how high the quality of labor and production is, they still look at $$$ more. Australia is quite overpriced for labor and is being beaten by similar countries, like the US.

I wouldn't call Australia a workers hellhole, there are many who would chop off their arms and legs to migrate to Australia, many with Anti-Christian, Anti-Western rhetoric.
 

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If that is the case, It is taking Toyota a long time to make this decision.
Toyota started a factory in a workers' paradise with eyes open wide.


The big H that send fear down Toyota is moving from strength to strength.

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/moto...-mix-of-science-black-art-20131017-2vp0p.html

Hyundai, no longer bashful about its plunge into an exacting game-changing program aimed at giving its products an Australianised ride and handling package, now senses it will have a dynamic advantage over its Japanese and, yes, its European rivals.



hyundai-ix35_600g-600x400.jpg


If it drives well in Australia, it will have no problem anywhere else, incl France and ... Malaysia.
“I’d rather drive a car tuned in Australia than one tuned in Europe. The concept of a Germanic suspension tune works well on the autobahns, but less so on not-so-smooth roads. There is more variety of roads here – everything from corrugated gravel to coarse bitumen.

The Big H might be strong competition, but at the end of the day, Toyota is still the number one choice for most Australians. The problem is the price, and cost of living has gone up in Australia and jobs are scarce. For its price, many have decided that a Korean car is the best thing.

The majority of Australians still view the Japanese cars as the most efficient and highest quality available. The most overpriced cars which is usually tossed aside are the Protons from Matland.
 

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Because of the FTA that is why I see the Aussies are fucking dumb. One thing Oz has an edge in is the Falcon and Commodore are rear wheel drive cars. dont forget in 2007++ CSIRO and Holden developed a prototype Hybrid commodore,,,holden say nah we not producing it,,,and the protoype is in a museum somewhere. U tell me besides high end european cars,,who is manufacturing a rear wheel drive vehicle?

And I speak to White trash aussies,,and they keep saying,,we want a V6 or V8 rear wheel drive car...etc etc...where the krauts have moved on to small turbo charged cars,,look at the BMW 5 series,,,2.2 turbo charged engine...than the white trash say,,,oh the feeling is different etc etc..But they dont buy the car new,,,just 2nd hand...no wonder the cars factory cant survive. the world have moved on and the aussies still think of yester decade.

And the Holden Cruz, why cant the Aussies take the initiative and developed a rear wheel drive model? they do it right can even compete with the BMW 1...

In the article,,if the car is tuned for Oz conditions, it can basically be driven anywhere in the world...

One other thing...I believe that Ford and GM left is cos they want to kill the local car industry...I heard the Falcon is not allowed to be exported as it will compete with the Ford Taurus...now look at it from another perspective, why cant Ford replace the taurus with the falcon? like that the yanks have a better car to sell. now it seems GM wants to kill the HOLDEN brand...they wanted to do if for a damn long time,,now this is it..

Ok now dont talk about the whole car...When the FTA was signed,,how come no preferential treatment for Oz to export components to Thailand, Japan etc? Components got better profit margin and need more people than car factories...it will be s specialised 'big' industry production as components are specialised and require highly skilled labour etc,,,good pay, highly skilled work with good margins...

Now if I were the gahmen, I would restucture the industry...to enable the component makers to compete, turn the cars to specialised vehicles,,,get a consortium to take over, like the way Aston Martin is bought out from Ford and its now back in Pommie hands. for example,,maybe a new brand focusing on compacts and medium cars with good reliable engines..and rear wheel drive etc...relook all FTAs to allow Oz cars and components to be exported,,,that way the car industry will be smaller but more efficient and profitable,,the cars need to be specialised not mass market ,,or maybe higher up mass market,,maybe have a mass market 'peoples ' car,,the equivalent to a VW Golf in krautland...ensure components can be exported etc etc..that way we will still have a manufacturing base, smaller but more efficient and more high tech...fucking aussies, dumb like shit..


I spoke to Toyota people, the problem is quite complex.

Toyota actually want to remain in Australia because it is their first overseas factory and they are proud of that.

BUT

1. Australia is signing a FTA with Korea which will allow the the Hyundais and Kia to flood Australia market. Meanwhile, the existing FTA with US, Thailand, etc do not allow the Aussie made Camry to be exported overseas cheaply.

(Am I right? Samleong.)
 
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neddy

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Now if I were the gahmen, I would restucture the industry...to enable the component makers to compete, turn the cars to specialised vehicles,,,get a consortium to take over, like the way Aston Martin is bought out from Ford and its now back in Pommie hands. for example,,maybe a new brand focusing on compacts and medium cars with good reliable engines..and rear wheel drive etc...relook all FTAs to allow Oz cars and components to be exported,,,that way the car industry will be smaller but more efficient and profitable,,the cars need to be specialised not mass market ,,or maybe higher up mass market,,maybe have a mass market 'peoples ' car,,the equivalent to a VW Golf in krautland...ensure components can be exported etc etc..that way we will still have a manufacturing base, smaller but more efficient and more high tech...fucking aussies, dumb like shit..
The Aussies know what is going on, but they are constrained with the usual money and power problems.
People know that once the media and politician seagulls fly in and make a lot of noise, the solution is muddled. Usually, no good results will come out of this. The usual Refrain - Too many cooks spoil the soup.

By the way, do not depend on the govt to get things right - esp things requiring transformational changes.

The Big H might be strong competition, but at the end of the day, Toyota is still the number one choice for most Australians. The problem is the price, and cost of living has gone up in Australia and jobs are scarce. For its price, many have decided that a Korean car is the best thing.

The majority of Australians still view the Japanese cars as the most efficient and highest quality available. The most overpriced cars which is usually tossed aside are the Protons from Matland.

There was a time when the Holden & Ford kept Toyota out of the V8 Supercars, these days they have no choice, because Aussies loves Toyotas. They love continental cars even more, but cannot afford the total ownership cost.

The Japanese has been lagging behind in R & D. Someone I know who bought the new Corolla last year, did not realised that the engine has not improved since the Corolla he brought 7 years ago. Toyota even copied the Hyundai i30's German design into Corolla to give itself an unToyota sharper look.

Hyundai cars are no longer cheaper than Toyota. My Kiwi friend went to test drive the $33,000 Hyundai ix35, made in Czech Republic, European equiped. Very good. He is waiting for the Aussie-tuned suspension version - the ones that are designed to run over countryside potholes.

Hyundai in the past also know what they have to do to build better cars, but they had no money.
Since the mid 2000s, they have finally poured money into designing a better car, the results is in the i40s.
But give it another 3-5 years and the Germans are quite worried now.

http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and-reviews/car-reviews-road-tests/toyota_corolla_vs_hyundai_i30

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/vw-martin-winterkorn-hyundai-i30-frankfurt-iaa-2011,news-12669.html
Volkswagen CEO Gets Upset Over Hyundai Build Quality

VW chairman Martin Winterkorn recently visited Hyundai's booth at the Frankfurt auto show and was captured on video while getting increasingly aggravated over certain features in the new i30 model.


Apparently, the Hyundai i30, which competes with VW's Golf model, has a very solid steering wheel adjuster, which prompted Winterkorn to state "It doesn't rattle".

Of course, that wasn't just a statement; it was a complaint that needed an explanation from his staff. He called for Klaus Bischoff, in charge of automotive design at VW, and told him: "BMW can't do it. We (VW & Audi) can't do it. It (Hyundai) doesn't rattle!"
 
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890aw

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There was a time when the Holden & Ford kept Toyota out of the V8 Supercars, these days they have no choice, because Aussies loves Toyotas. They love continental cars even more, but cannot afford the total ownership cost.

The Japanese has been lagging behind in R & D. Someone I know who bought the new Corolla last year, did not realised that the engine has not improved since the Corolla he brought 7 years ago. Toyota even copied the Hyundai i30's German design into Corolla to give itself an unToyota sharper look.

Hyundai cars are no longer cheaper than Toyota. My Kiwi friend went to test drive the $33,000 Hyundai ix35, made in Czech Republic, European equiped. Very good. He is waiting for the Aussie-tuned suspension version - the ones that are designed to run over countryside potholes.

Hyundai in the past also know what they have to do to build better cars, but they had no money.
Since the mid 2000s, they have finally poured money into designing a better car, the results is in the i40s.
But give it another 3-5 years and the Germans are quite worried now.

http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and-reviews/car-reviews-road-tests/toyota_corolla_vs_hyundai_i30

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/vw-martin-winterkorn-hyundai-i30-frankfurt-iaa-2011,news-12669.html
Volkswagen CEO Gets Upset Over Hyundai Build Quality

VW chairman Martin Winterkorn recently visited Hyundai's booth at the Frankfurt auto show and was captured on video while getting increasingly aggravated over certain features in the new i30 model.


Apparently, the Hyundai i30, which competes with VW's Golf model, has a very solid steering wheel adjuster, which prompted Winterkorn to state "It doesn't rattle".

Of course, that wasn't just a statement; it was a complaint that needed an explanation from his staff. He called for Klaus Bischoff, in charge of automotive design at VW, and told him: "BMW can't do it. We (VW & Audi) can't do it. It (Hyundai) doesn't rattle!"

Very interesting and informative post. Thank you Neddy.
 

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I tried the Hyundai ix35 diesel and the new RAV 4 diesel... guess what... the Hyundai is better.

Whether the Hyundai has the same longevity as the Toyota I do not know.

Interesting. I've checked auto reviews and appraisals and usually the Japanese names take the awards for car of the year. One thing I realize is that the Japanese cars have been longer established, especially with a name like Toyota which is a household name worldwide.
 

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Interesting. I've checked auto reviews and appraisals and usually the Japanese names take the awards for car of the year. One thing I realize is that the Japanese cars have been longer established, especially with a name like Toyota which is a household name worldwide.

It's a personal preference but when I did a test drive of the ix35, I found it quieter, smoother and more responsive. The RAV4 diesel was far less refined and the interior looked cheap compared to the Hyundai.

However, if I wanted a vehicle that I could use for 300,000km with reliability being of paramount importance, I'd still choose the Toyota.
 

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It's a personal preference but when I did a test drive of the ix35, I found it quieter, smoother and more responsive. The RAV4 diesel was far less refined and the interior looked cheap compared to the Hyundai.

However, if I wanted a vehicle that I could use for 300,000km with reliability being of paramount importance, I'd still choose the Toyota.

Toyota admit that reliability is now an issue with some of their cars, like Yaris and Corolla.

Not sure about the Rav4.

Hyundai has been investing a lot in R & D since mid 2000s. The engines fitted to the ix35 are the latest from the research. The Nissans, Toyotas and Hondas have not been doing much with their engines because of financial problems.

Noticed that I did not mention Mitsubishi. I am still trying to verify whether Mitsubishis are using Hyundai engines, a result from the Global Engine Alliance days.
 

neddy

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Interesting. I've checked auto reviews and appraisals and usually the Japanese names take the awards for car of the year. One thing I realize is that the Japanese cars have been longer established, especially with a name like Toyota which is a household name worldwide.

My interest is in up-and-coming car makers after I sense the tiredness of the time-tested Toyota.
Hyundai has not disappoint. They are ahead of the Japs in some aspects already.
They are still trying to get a few things right (another 3 years), most of their "problems" have been solved.

http://www.hyundai.com.au/about-hyundai/awards

rise-of-hyundai-lead-gear-patrol.jpg


http://gearpatrol.com/2012/07/02/in-depth-the-rise-of-hyundai/
 
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Toyota's Camry, Still the Bestselling Car in America, Is No Longer the Most Reliable
By Kyle Stock October 28, 2013

The same day Toyota (7203:JP) appeared to cement its lead in the global car sales race, the Japanese giant lost a powerful endorsement. In its annual reliability ranking, Consumer Reports said it no longer recommends three of Toyota’s most popular vehicles: the Camry, the RAV4 SUV and the Prius V hybrid wagon. All three cars drew poor ratings in a new test by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety


http://www.businessweek.com/article...-stops-recommending-toyota-camry-rav4-prius-v
 

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It's good that you, a traitorous dog of the west, know it.
A disciplined, compliant, submissive and efficient labour force (some of it even imported from its bigger neighbours) free from unions as well as a low-crime society and good infrastructure doesn't mean jack if their salaries are too high and the domestic market is too small.

Even the Japs did the same: they moved out, using Singapore for communications while using Malaysia for manufacturing.

When it comes to running a manufacturing plant, the formula is very simple.

If the plant makes good profit margins, it will survive no matter what.

If a plant isn't profitable, it will shut down sooner or later no matter what.

I experienced this first hand when the company I worked for shut the Singapore plant in 1985.

Despite all the advantages of operating in Singapore, the fact that the Malaysian plant made a lot more money meant that transferring production lines there made sound business sense.

The infrastructure and logistical support was inferior and they also had to shut production down on a regular basis for prayers but it didn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
 

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You probably Just Died, Ugly Chinky Coolie, but do any of you white-cum lapdogs remember the dumbass man chieftain Li Guangyao and his dumb idea of Singapore seceding from Malaysia that ended up in so many problems today as well as drinking your own piss (Newater) and having to depend on the good graces of Malaysia and Indonesia other than America and its lapdog Lil Japan for its own surivival? Ha, so much for the 1982 Swiss Standard but Singapore will only reach there if Switzerland becomes a developing country.

You're a fuller retard and that's so off-the-charts!

Anyone rememberS what dumbfuck opposition politician Tan Jee Say said during GE2011. He wants all manufacturing to move out of SG. The article confirms that Tan Jee say is a fucking retard
 
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