you forget to mention, using state funds and sign their own production cost without consultation with the people.
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At Last, A State Media Admit YOG Lacks Buzz
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you forget to mention, using state funds and sign their own production cost without consultation with the people.
What makes you think Singapore has the scale for YOG?
Singapore is not Australia. Australia is not Canberra alone. I should have thought one should figure out the gear before playing the game. Singapore couldn't even get that right.
Malaysia Cup in the 70-80s? Yes, no need marketing. Just beat all the Malaysian states and win the Cup and everybody would be happy. Kallang roar? Not that simple. In Malaysia Cup Finals those days when Singapore qualified, almost half of Merdeka Stadium in KL were filled with Singaporeans. It's got nothing to do with marketing or promoting international interaction. We just want beat them and willingly paid to see that happen, suffered through all the Kallang traffic jams on gamesnight, the horrendously tedious bus trip to KL before North-South Highway. It's got nothing to do with PAP or leadership organisation. That's the spirit of derby rivalries, nothing to do with pretension to grandiose, marketing, interaction, friendship exchange or what have you.
For some reason, Singapore schools having participated in Asia Pacific School Games must have indicated that Singapore has the scale to host YOG? Isn't that the same logic as North Korea to host the World Cup?
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Is your point that the organisation of YOG has been good but YOG is just too big for Singapore thus too many tickets unsold and lack of interest etc?
I beg to differ. My sense is that poor leadership and organisation is at fault. If South Africa can host the World Cup successfully, the YOG which is much much smaller should not be a problem. It might be difficult but it can be done.
They put the Games in the hands of the wrong people? If we can maintain a military across 4 continents with state of the art firepower, this is not a hard climb. Ng Ser Miang and Teo Ser Luck have not achieved anything in their life except get handouts from the government. If you know the background of TIBs you would know what I am talking about. Ser Luck nomination comes from the YPAP quota not from the brains department.
Try starting a small business without a store front and no marketing. Civil servants are the last to get it because they are salaried.
I beg to differ. My sense is that poor leadership and organisation is at fault. If South Africa can host the World Cup successfully, the YOG which is much much smaller should not be a problem. It might be difficult but it can be done.
They put the Games in the hands of the wrong people? If we can maintain a military across 4 continents with state of the art firepower, this is not a hard climb. Ng Ser Miang and Teo Ser Luck have not achieved anything in their life except get handouts from the government. If you know the background of TIBs you would know what I am talking about. Ser Luck nomination comes from the YPAP quota not from the brains department.
Try starting a small business without a store front and no marketing. Civil servants are the last to get it because they are salaried.
Marketing is the ability to sell turds. Many things in life where no competitors are involved no marketing is required.
When something cannot be sold easily such as turds, marketing is big factor. Some people fail business and in life when they can't figure out the equation.
Marketing is also the ability to sell beyond normal demand ie selling to people that don't need it. Ever seen a fountain in the middle of a 5 room HDB flat that took up half the hall.
When something cannot be sold easily such as turds, marketing is big factor. Some people fail business and in life when they can't figure out the equation.
Marketing is also the ability to sell beyond normal demand ie selling to people that don't need it. Ever seen a fountain in the middle of a 5 room HDB flat that took up half the hall.
I'm not disputing your point that leadership, organisation and marketing failed. My point is they could never have succeeded even if they're fundamentally competent because Singapore doesn't have the scale. You may dispute that of course. It's my assessment, not claimed to be a fact.
Best reply I seen in years. As I have said it many times, I don't call you teflon for nothing.
By the way, you may be right - they bit off too much to chew. When you are appointed to the highest body in any association, you are expected to undertake national service of some sort. Ng Ser Miang sits on the IOC and after the President Jacques Rogge, holds the 2nd important post as Vice President together with 3 others.
Most people turn down these posts to avoid carrying the liability for their country as it may impose an unfair burden. This idiot picked it and we are now paying the price.
Unfortunately it landed on a fellow idiot to organise it. This is the same idiot that was suppose to conduct an inquiry into the Beijing table tennis debacle only to find out that the coach was not there with his player as he and the Manager was providing support to Ng Ser Miang to ensure maximum comfort, and hassle free stay during the olympics. He thus cut the inquiry short and made the mad women apologise without revealing to the nation why the manager and coach was missing.
By the way, you may be right - they bit off too much to chew. When you are appointed to the highest body in any association, you are expected to undertake national service of some sort. Ng Ser Miang sits on the IOC and after the President Jacques Rogge, holds the 2nd important post as Vice President together with 3 others.
Most people turn down these posts to avoid carrying the liability for their country as it may impose an unfair burden. This idiot picked it and we are now paying the price.
Unfortunately it landed on a fellow idiot to organise it. This is the same idiot that was suppose to conduct an inquiry into the Beijing table tennis debacle only to find out that the coach was not there with his player as he and the Manager was providing support to Ng Ser Miang to ensure maximum comfort, and hassle free stay during the olympics. He thus cut the inquiry short and made the mad women apologise without revealing to the nation why the manager and coach was missing.
Missing the forest for the trees?
When has the PAP help the poor? Helping themselves is more like it.
The YOG was meant to spruce their image before the world stage. But when people are suffering badly due to hardships and increases, who got the time to attend YOG games?
Not everyone agrees with this idea...
Some feel that these poor/old/needy created their own demise by gambling/prostituting/bad investments and should pay for their own mistakes..
The Vivacious Baron was handed the gift box first. Then he heard a ticking sound and passed it Sir Lark, who heard the sound too but thought it's a Rolex Submariner inside.
You've just explained why the PRC manager had gone missing: There was a mad woman out there.
i'd tend to agree.
we humans have a natural tendency to watch the best of the lot slug it out. from the ancient romans in coliseums to villagers watching cockfights...
there's something about putting top class brawns together and see them sweat blood to defeat their opponents.
even though its YOG,those kids are still much, much better than regular adults (i've seen a few of the local kids train... the cyclists doing sprints along changi village and the rowers at kallang river. they're almost superhuman)
but why the games did not get the desired response, with what seemed like a blank cheque budget and resources (every single person still in school), is really beyond me.
i can only point to lack of experience, ability and creativity among the heads. really.
Spot on. The only people excited about YOG from the beginning are the organisers.
From the Berlin games in 1936(?) to Beijing in 2008, the modern Olympic games has always been prone to abuse as host countries flex their nationalist muscle. Fuck... I bet North Korea could host the best goddam Olympic games if they are ever allowed to.
In a month, the YOG 2010 will be hailed by the state media as a resounding success. A couple of ministers will be promoted. But life goes on for the average singaporean.
At risk of flogging a dead horse here, but I have to say that even the best organisation skills can't save a lost cause.
Please respect the intelligence of the international sporting community. There is a good reason why US and UK aren't taking this seriously and fielding their atheletes for this event.
Why be "average"? Strive to be top dog instead.
just want to comment on something on the advertisment in the radio regarding the giving way to YOG vehicles in the give way lane..
anyone one tuning in the radio e.g. class 95 should sometimes hear the advert of of a young girl talking to his father on the YOG. i couldn't remember the exact wordings but the ending sonds like this :
father to daughter : train hard and one day you may be in the YOG next time.
however, recently, the advert had change from the aboved sentence to this:
father to daughter : train hard and one day you WILL be in the YOG next time.
i'm glad that the relevant bodies realised that the first sentence is very disencouraging to sg ppl for those who are interested in sports.
anyone one tuning in the radio e.g. class 95 should sometimes hear the advert of of a young girl talking to his father on the YOG. i couldn't remember the exact wordings but the ending sonds like this :
father to daughter : train hard and one day you may be in the YOG next time.
however, recently, the advert had change from the aboved sentence to this:
father to daughter : train hard and one day you WILL be in the YOG next time.
i'm glad that the relevant bodies realised that the first sentence is very disencouraging to sg ppl for those who are interested in sports.
I don't think SG lacks the scale to host the YOG, if lack of scale means the lack of infrastructure including accommodation, transport, venues or stadiums, officials, budget (!!!), media coverage, etc. SG is not lacking in any of these, even if it means inconveniences for the daily lives of ordinary people.
The problem is that over the years, the government has come to assume that when they say something is great, everybody should play a part, everybody should buy tickets, it's a once-in-a-lifetime event, it's a resounding success, it's glory and honour for the nation, people will simply accept it and respond accordingly.
They have taken for granted that their word is the only and final word.
Whatever the outcome, perhaps their corporate communications department will still make it a resounding success. And life will go on happily for all of them.
The problem is that over the years, the government has come to assume that when they say something is great, everybody should play a part, everybody should buy tickets, it's a once-in-a-lifetime event, it's a resounding success, it's glory and honour for the nation, people will simply accept it and respond accordingly.
They have taken for granted that their word is the only and final word.
Whatever the outcome, perhaps their corporate communications department will still make it a resounding success. And life will go on happily for all of them.
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