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Angmor tells you 10 reasons why he loves being a PR

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10 things I love about being a Singaporean PR
BY CHRIS REED

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I recently became a Singaporean PR and to celebrate I thought I would recount the top ten things I love about being a Singaporean PR:

1. Doing business in Singapore. People take you more seriously and appear to give you more respect for committing yourself to the country. Whether they are Singaporean or expat, PR’s are treated like an honorary citizen rather than a fly by night who may leave the country as soon as the next employment opportunity comes along. It does make a difference, especially to Singaporeans who I think feel pride that someone has chosen their country as their home permanently.


2. Being welcomed as a citizen. The difference between being an EP holder and a PR is immense in the eyes of the community. Whereas before it was all rules, regulations and warnings now it’s all “come and meet your local MP”, “come to your community events”, “be part of Singapore and your views are welcome”. I resisted the chance of meeting the former PM who is my local MP to let him know all of my views but maybe in the future! Nonetheless it’s nice to be asked!


3. CPF. CPF is an amazing and ingenious invention, one that every country in the world should follow. It has effectively created property millionaires across the island of people who could never be a millionaire in any other country simply by that old fashioned way, saving. CPF is the main reason why Singapore could buy the UK’s debt many times over and still have change.


The UK has National Insurance but the resident doesn’t get it or get to choose what is done with it. Singapore allows you to be responsible for your own medical bills, education and property investment by insisting that you save. Simple. Not rocket science.


Why should my tax pay for someone who smokes or drinks or takes drugs or those self-inflicted drug/drink fueled fights that fill the hospital wards of the UK every Friday, Saturday, Thursday--in fact every night of the week? If CPF happened in the UK all the thugs, druggies and smokers would pretty soon go bankrupt and the NHS would be making money not costing billions every year.

4. You can start your own business by yourself without aid of anyone else or another Singaporean. Singapore is already a very entrepreneurial environment to start your own company for foreigners and locals alike but being PR makes it even easier. There are less rules and regulations and more advantages of being an entrepreneurial PR over the array of other passes that can be issued to foreigners that enable them to also start their own business. It’s just easier.


5. You only have to wait two years to become a Singaporean citizen. For those of us who have escaped the weather (seasons are overrated in my view, especially when they merge into one and it’s not the sunny one) and economies of the west, Singapore is a dream to live in.


The chance to become a Singaporean by serving time as a PR is a golden opportunity to give more back to the country that has given so much to me is one that I won’t hesitate to give up. Yes even though it means giving up being English. I never felt very English anyway. Newcastle (where I am from) is effectively a separate state of the UK, a bit like Catalunya in Spain but without the great football team.


6. You can buy all kinds of property not just those advertised as “for foreigners” and your kids get allocated more places in state schools than if you were merely an EP holder. You can also gain the same discounts and benefits as Singaporeans when it comes to services such as insurance. Being PR really does save you money and increase your choice of products and services.


7. I have noticed that when I complain now (which I do occasionally) about something to do with poor service, as I have done recently with RWS, I am treated differently when I let them know that I am a PR. I think it’s the fact that you are showing long term commitment to the country and therefore may be back at that restaurant/hotel/retail outlet in the future that makes a commercial difference to the organisation that you’re complaining about.


They may also be worried about you influencing a greater selection of people than you would otherwise have done if you were only an EP holder and had a smaller circle of friends/acquaintances and less long term influence on social networks and in the real world. In the case of RWS I received a full refund for example. Complaining to businesses when you need to does work in Singapore. Reputation is key in such a compact and socially active community. RWS went up in my estimation for doing dealing with my complaint quickly and efficiently.


8. You can get a job easier as effectively you are treated as a Singaporean. All those jobs that say “Singaporean and PR only apply” suddenly become available. Employers in general look more favourably on PR’s due to the perceived commitment to the country and because there is no applying to MOM needed.


In fact MOM becomes a distant memory as the ICA takes over your registration, transferring you from temporary to permanent. Employers like the no hassle employment of people that will be around a long time and are committed to the country rather than having to worry about the length of EP or whether they will in fact get an EP after an exhaustive interview process and have to start again.


9. You never feel like you’re going to have to leave the country! When you’re an EP holder you are always concerned that at some point if you lost your job you would have 30 days to leave the country or find another job double quick. Whereas being PR means you know you’re staying as long as you can afford to!


10. Ultimately being a Singaporean PR makes me feel like Singapore is my home. It may take longer than it did to be accepted as a PR but it’s worth the wait. I am extremely proud of becoming a Singaporean PR. Next step citizenship!



 

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1. Doing business in Singapore. People take you more seriously and appear to give you more respect for committing yourself to the country. Whether they are Singaporean or expat, PR’s are treated like an honorary citizen rather than a fly by night who may leave the country as soon as the next employment opportunity comes along. It does make a difference, especially to Singaporeans who I think feel pride that someone has chosen their country as their home permanently.

He must be kidding. Sinkaporre PRs are easily obtained and given up. What's the big deal?

2. Being welcomed as a citizen. The difference between being an EP holder and a PR is immense in the eyes of the community. Whereas before it was all rules, regulations and warnings now it’s all “come and meet your local MP”, “come to your community events”, “be part of Singapore and your views are welcome”. I resisted the chance of meeting the former PM who is my local MP to let him know all of my views but maybe in the future! Nonetheless it’s nice to be asked![/FONT][/COLOR]

Because you are angmo, the MP pays attention to you because he is afraid that you will badmouth him. He knows that you are raised in a culture where questioning and challenging is the norm. So, the MP has no choice but to entertain you. Other PR from Asian countries are treated no different from deferential sinkees.

3. CPF. CPF is an amazing and ingenious invention, one that every country in the world should follow. It has effectively created property millionaires across the island of people who could never be a millionaire in any other country simply by that old fashioned way, saving. CPF is the main reason why Singapore could buy the UK’s debt many times over and still have change.[/FONT][/COLOR]

Millionaires, my foot. It is a property bubble. These millionaires will soon see negative value in their properties! CPF is a source of cheap funds for the government. But there is no gain for sinkees. Sinkees still pay the highest price for public housing in the world!

The UK has National Insurance but the resident doesn’t get it or get to choose what is done with it. Singapore allows you to be responsible for your own medical bills, education and property investment by insisting that you save. Simple. Not rocket science.

The problem is that most sinkees can't save enough to survive a major illness without devastating their financial well-being. And do we have a choice of how to use the CPF? We can't even withdraw the full amount on retirement. And the government dictates the allocation of usage.
Like a typical angmo, he is totally clueless on the CPF.

Why should my tax pay for someone who smokes or drinks or takes drugs or those self-inflicted drug/drink fueled fights that fill the hospital wards of the UK every Friday, Saturday, Thursday--in fact every night of the week? If CPF happened in the UK all the thugs, druggies and smokers would pretty soon go bankrupt and the NHS would be making money not costing billions every year.
Because we live in a society and there are costs when shared in a common pool is affordable for all. If we feel no responsibility for others in society, then we should be paying different tax rates based on usage of all government services.

4. You can start your own business by yourself without aid of anyone else or another Singaporean. Singapore is already a very entrepreneurial environment to start your own company for foreigners and locals alike but being PR makes it even easier. There are less rules and regulations and more advantages of being an entrepreneurial PR over the array of other passes that can be issued to foreigners that enable them to also start their own business. It’s just easier.[/FONT][/COLOR]

What an idiot. He doesn't even know that the GLCs run the economy and unless your business is in F&B or small, you don't have a blinking chance to survive.


5. You only have to wait two years to become a Singaporean citizen. For those of us who have escaped the weather (seasons are overrated in my view, especially when they merge into one and it’s not the sunny one) and economies of the west, Singapore is a dream to live in.

There are people who gets citizenship without having to get PR. This dude is too ordinary to qualify for that expedited route.

The chance to become a Singaporean by serving time as a PR is a golden opportunity to give more back to the country that has given so much to me is one that I won’t hesitate to give up. Yes even though it means giving up being English. I never felt very English anyway. Newcastle (where I am from) is effectively a separate state of the UK, a bit like Catalunya in Spain but without the great football team.[/FONT][/COLOR]
I am sure his UK spot will be gladly taken up by a sinkee in a flash.


6. You can buy all kinds of property not just those advertised as “for foreigners” and your kids get allocated more places in state schools than if you were merely an EP holder. You can also gain the same discounts and benefits as Singaporeans when it comes to services such as insurance. Being PR really does save you money and increase your choice of products and services.

One of the suckers for the property bubble.

7. I have noticed that when I complain now (which I do occasionally) about something to do with poor service, as I have done recently with RWS, I am treated differently when I let them know that I am a PR. I think it’s the fact that you are showing long term commitment to the country and therefore may be back at that restaurant/hotel/retail outlet in the future that makes a commercial difference to the organisation that you’re complaining about.[/FONT][/COLOR]


You are an angmo ...and most locals still think angmos are gods.

They may also be worried about you influencing a greater selection of people than you would otherwise have done if you were only an EP holder and had a smaller circle of friends/acquaintances and less long term influence on social networks and in the real world. In the case of RWS I received a full refund for example. Complaining to businesses when you need to does work in Singapore. Reputation is key in such a compact and socially active community. RWS went up in my estimation for doing dealing with my complaint quickly and efficiently.

If he is a Chinese, RWS will ask you to go fly kite.

8. You can get a job easier as effectively you are treated as a Singaporean. All those jobs that say “Singaporean and PR only apply” suddenly become available.
In fact MOM becomes a distant memory as the ICA takes over your registration, transferring you from temporary to permanent. Employers like the no hassle employment of people that will be around a long time and are committed to the country rather than having to worry about the length of EP or whether they will in fact get an EP after an exhaustive interview process and have to start again.

9. You never feel like you’re going to have to leave the country! When you’re an EP holder you are always concerned that at some point if you lost your job you would have 30 days to leave the country or find another job double quick. Whereas being PR means you know you’re staying as long as you can afford to!
10. Ultimately being a Singaporean PR makes me feel like Singapore is my home. It may take longer than it did to be accepted as a PR but it’s worth the wait. I am extremely proud of becoming a Singaporean PR. Next step citizenship!

Sinkee government is just happy that they are closer to their 3.9 million foreigners target.
 
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3. CPF. CPF is an amazing and ingenious invention, one that every country in the world should follow. It has effectively created property millionaires across the island of people who could never be a millionaire in any other country simply by that old fashioned way, saving. CPF is the main reason why Singapore could buy the UK’s debt many times over and still have change.

A bit confuse..he said CPF is the main reason why Singapore could buy the UK’s debt .. is he speaking for cheng hu or himself as a PR about the CPF ?WTF is he talking about.kknccb ang mo
 
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winnipegjets

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A bit confuse..he said CPF is the main reason why Singapore could buy the UK’s debt .. is he speaking for cheng hu or himself as a PR about the CPF ?WTF is he talking about.kknccb ang mo

He is a clueless angmo. Like our fake German ex-moderator, Peppercrab, he has no blinking idea how sinkee society works. He should go to Geylang and see if he will be accepted or get bashed up.
 

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He's absolutely right on all counts. The problem with sinkies is that they take everything for granted blissfully unaware how much better Singapore is compared to the so called Western democracies.

In order to make a comparison, you have to experience just how bad things can be in countries such as the UK, Australia, the US and NZ.

2 decades of living in OZ/NZ have made me appreciate the Singapore system despite its warts. The biggest downside of life in Singapore is actually the citizens themselves. They're an obnoxious bunch. Clear the country of those who display the ugliest of sinkie traits and life there would be really pleasant.
 

winnipegjets

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He's absolutely right on all counts. The problem with sinkies is that they take everything for granted blissfully unaware how much better Singapore is compared to the so called Western democracies.

In order to make a comparison, you have to experience just how bad things can be in countries such as the UK, Australia, the US and NZ.

2 decades of living in OZ/NZ have made me appreciate the Singapore system despite its warts. The biggest downside of life in Singapore is actually the citizens themselves. They're an obnoxious bunch. Clear the country of those who display the ugliest of sinkie traits and life there would be really pleasant.

Would you move back then?
 

Rogue Trader

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He's absolutely right on all counts. The problem with sinkies is that they take everything for granted blissfully unaware how much better Singapore is compared to the so called Western democracies.

In order to make a comparison, you have to experience just how bad things can be in countries such as the UK, Australia, the US and NZ.

2 decades of living in OZ/NZ have made me appreciate the Singapore system despite its warts. The biggest downside of life in Singapore is actually the citizens themselves. They're an obnoxious bunch. Clear the country of those who display the ugliest of sinkie traits and life there would be really pleasant.

I will also be happy to be in sinkieland if I am white, loaded and business minded. Plenty of cheap and willing Asian labour to help me see out my business idea. Infrastructure is good and the laws are very pro capitalism. :rolleyes:
 

Froggy

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He's absolutely right on all counts. The problem with sinkies is that they take everything for granted blissfully unaware how much better Singapore is compared to the so called Western democracies.

In order to make a comparison, you have to experience just how bad things can be in countries such as the UK, Australia, the US and NZ.

2 decades of living in OZ/NZ have made me appreciate the Singapore system despite its warts. The biggest downside of life in Singapore is actually the citizens themselves. They're an obnoxious bunch. Clear the country of those who display the ugliest of sinkie traits and life there would be really pleasant.

Bloody tonychat you forgot to log in with the right nick again is it?
 
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