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Chitchat 4 out of 19 did not choose Lawrence Wong
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The Gang of Four:
Chan Chun Sing
Ong Ye Kun
Ng Chee Meng
#4?
Chan Chun Sing
Ong Ye Kun
Ng Chee Meng
#4?
Jojo lah. The first among the batch to congratulate LW in public are the most suspicious.
此地無銀三百兩。
THIS DAY IN HISTORY | 1976 CHINA’S ‘GANG OF FOUR’’ ARRESTED
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The new chairman of China’s Communist Party, Hua Guofeng, has ordered the arrest of four leading radicals in Peking.
It is a sign that China is changing political direction following the death last month of Chairman Mao Zedong.
The so-called Gang of Four is led by Chairman Mao’s widow Jian Qing, and includes Wang Hongwen, Yao Wenyuan, and Zhang Chunqiao.
They were active proponents of the Cultural Revolution instigated ten years ago by Chairman Mao.
This was a political and ideological campaign aimed at reviving revolutionary fervour and resulted in enormous social, economic and political upheaval.
Ideological cleansing began with attacks by young Red Guards on so-called “intellectuals” to remove “bourgeois” influences. It is believed millions were forced into manual labour, and tens of thousands were executed.
Mr Zhang rose up the ranks during the first year of the Cultural Revolution in Shanghai and was until recently chief political commissar of the armed forces.
Mr Wang had less power but was regarded a wonderboy – he rose to number three in the party in 1973 while still only in his late thirties, relatively young by Chinese standards.
Mr Yao, also a member of the Politburo standing committee, is regarded as dedicated, if not fanatical, in his belief in Maoist ideals of social development.
Jian Qing, formerly an actress, became Chairman Mao’s third wife in 1939. She is regarded as a radical and active proponent of Maoist principles but in the years before his death, had led an independent life from her husband.
News of the arrests have not been confirmed by China’s officials but it is believed the four were attempting a coup in the wake of the death of Chairman Mao on 9 September.
Some reports say Jian Qing was in the process of forging Chairman Mao’s will placing her as Mao’s successor, when she and her associates were surrounded by Hua Guofeng’s personal bodyguards and placed under house arrest.
They are being questioned about their campaign against former prime minister Zhou Enlai, who died in January.
Commentators say the arrests might lead to a liberalisation of foreign, cultural and economic policy -the Times newspaper editorial calls this latest move “the most potent sign of a new political direction” following 27 years of Maoist dogma.
Courtesy BBC News
In context
The Gang of Four were kept under house arrest and, following a propaganda campaign against them, were expelled from the Communist Party in July 1977.
By the end of 1978 reformist Deng Xiaoping had effectively wrested power from Hua Guofeng – although he did not assume the title of premier of China and chair of the CCP until 1982.
On 20 November 1980 all members of the Gang of Four were put on trial charged with attempting to overthrow the government and establish a hardline Communist dictatorship.
They were sentence to death, later commuted to long-term imprisonment. After a period of political indoctrination Jian Qing was released in 1991 and died soon after – some reports say she committed suicide.
Wang Hongwen died in 1992, Zhang Chunqiao died in April 2005 and Yao Wenyuan died in December 2005.
Clever
Since when NCM is cabinet ministar?
If my uncle is LW he will choose not to vote himself unless he got intention to overthrow the Lee dynasty or else is finding trouble for himself aka sabo ownself after kana saboed by others.
This is quite intriguing. My guess is
1 - CB Kia Chan Chun Sing
2 - OYK
3 - Big Ass Jo Teo.
4 - Half Breed Vivian.
Stalin did The Great Purge to weed out dissenters. PAP need to do likewise. Hopefully Sir John Tan will give us some good insider info in the coming weeks.
1 - CB Kia Chan Chun Sing
2 - OYK
3 - Big Ass Jo Teo.
4 - Half Breed Vivian.
Stalin did The Great Purge to weed out dissenters. PAP need to do likewise. Hopefully Sir John Tan will give us some good insider info in the coming weeks.
no lah.................the 4th one is Pinky lah....................
Lawrence Wong clear choice to helm PAP's 4G leadership, with 15 of 19 stakeholders backing him
Warren Fernandez
Editor-in-Chief
Apr 16, 2022
SINGAPORE - The choice of Mr Lawrence Wong to helm the People's Action Party's fourth-generation (4G) leadership was made by an "overwhelming majority" of those involved, and this was subsequently endorsed by its top leaders and all its MPs.
This process of forging a consensus on who should lead the party, and Singapore, should the PAP win the next general election, was undertaken in a systematic and thorough way, to allow for candour, introspection and objectivity, and to help forge unity and support for the outcome.
Mr Wong, 49, emerged as the top choice of 15 out of the 19 stakeholders involved.
The 19 were all the Cabinet ministers, excluding Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and the two senior ministers, and included Speaker of Parliament Tan Chuan-Jin and NTUC secretary-general Ng Chee Meng, both former 4G ministers.
Each of the 19 was interviewed separately by former PAP chairman Khaw Boon Wan over the past month after the Budget debate in March. They were asked for their preferred choice - other than themselves - and had to rank potential candidates in order of their preference.
None of the other names garnered more than two votes, said Mr Khaw, indicating a clear majority of 79 per cent for Mr Wong.
This was more than a super-majority, he added.
Details of the vote were disclosed at a media conference held at the Istana on Saturday morning (April 16). It was chaired by PM Lee and attended by Mr Wong and Mr Khaw, to elaborate on Thursday's announcement of the party's choice of its next leader.
PM Lee said this was a major step forward in the political succession process, which he felt could not be delayed much further, as the uncertainty was not good for the country, given the many challenges ahead.
Now that the 4G choice was made, he would discuss with Mr Wong the timeline and next steps, with a view to handing over when Mr Wong and the 4G team are ready. This process would be done "carefully and deliberately", he said.
He would discuss with Mr Wong and decide later what was the best strategy for the PAP to contest the next election, which is due by November 2025.
This might include handing over to Mr Wong and his team ahead of the polls to allow them to contest and seek a fresh mandate from the electorate. Alternatively, PM Lee could lead the PAP team to fight the election, and if the PAP wins, Mr Wong would step up as PM some time thereafter.
"It will depend on how things evolve, it's something which we'll decide later on. But either way, our plan is for Lawrence to be the next PM, if the PAP wins the next GE. That has been settled.
"And the reaction from the public over the last two days shows that many people are happy we have taken this decision, and are happy with the decision."
This process of forging a consensus around the next leader was important, he added, since as first among equals in the Cabinet, the PM must have the support of his ministers, who bear collective responsibility for their decisions.
"Otherwise, the Government cannot function," said PM Lee, adding that the process was to pick the 4G leader, not his deputy or a 5G leader. It would be up to Mr Wong to pick his choice of deputy and his team later.
"To be effective as a PM, he must be able to trust and rely on his ministers, and his ministers must also be team players, supporting the PM, their PM, and supporting the team. And they all have to help the team to score goals collectively for Singapore."
For his part, in his first public outing since Thursday's announcement, Mr Wong said that he would work hard, together with his colleagues, to continue to win and earn the trust of Singaporeans.
He noted 4G leaders had already taken a “first step” in a multi-year plan to renew and strengthen society’s social compact in this year’s Budget, and would comprehensively review policies to see what more could be adjusted and improved.
“So, this would be a major agenda for the 4G team,” he said. “But beyond that, we will as a team continue to work hard to win the trust and support of every Singaporean, to create bonds and connect with them, and to develop new ideas that will resonate with Singaporeans, and especially with a new generation of Singaporeans."
He added: "I fully recognise the growing diversity of experiences and perspectives amongst Singaporeans, and I would like every Singaporean to know and feel that they will always have a stake in our society, even as we chart our new way forward together.
"And as leader of the team, that will be the approach, the attitude and the spirit I will adopt."
Acknowledging that he had his work cut out for him as he embarked on "possibly the biggest responsibility of my life", he added that he was "under no illusions about the demands of the job".
"It will get more challenging with greater political contestation and the growing desire for diversity in Parliament.
"And as PM said in Parliament recently, we do not assume that the PAP will win the next general election. Every GE from now on will be about which party will form the Government, not just how many seats the opposition wins or what percentage of the votes the ruling party gets.
"Knowing full well that we will have to earn the right of leadership, I will continue with the same principles that have guided me all these years, which is to give of my best, to engage and listen, and to learn and improve continually."
Quote: "Mr Wong, 49, emerged as the top choice of 15 out of the 19 stakeholders involved. The 19 were all the Cabinet ministers, excluding Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and the two senior ministers, and included Speaker of Parliament Tan Chuan-Jin and NTUC secretary-general Ng Chee Meng, both former 4G ministers."
Ng Chee Meng got special status. You know his career path is determined when he is not a cabinet minister and allowed to vote for the PM.
Quote: " Mr Wong, 49, emerged as the top choice of 15 out of the 19 stakeholders involved. The 19 were all the Cabinet ministers, excluding Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and the two senior ministers, and included Speaker of Parliament Tan Chuan-Jin and NTUC secretary-general Ng Chee Meng, both former 4G ministers."no lah.................the 4th one is Pinky lah....................
Pinky Loong did not vote.
The Gang of Four:
Chan Chun Sing
Ong Ye Kun
Ng Chee Meng
Vivian Balakrishnan
Chan Chun Sing
Ong Ye Kun
Ng Chee Meng
Vivian Balakrishnan
Why interview Ng Chee Meng? Knn self appointed boss of a fictional labor union controlled by govt.
Hahaha, you are so clever!
Quote: "Each of the 19 was interviewed separately by former PAP chairman Khaw Boon Wan over the past month after the Budget debate in March. They were asked for their preferred choice - other than themselves - and had to rank potential candidates in order of their preference."
The Three Usurpers:
Chan Chun Sing
Ong Ye Kun
Ng Chee Meng
CCS voted for OYK
OYK voted for CCS
NCM likely voted for CCS, comrade general in the army.
Chan Chun Sing
Ong Ye Kun
Ng Chee Meng
CCS voted for OYK
OYK voted for CCS
NCM likely voted for CCS, comrade general in the army.
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