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Serious The disaster of same sex marriage for Singapore:

blueRad

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This study already proved what it has been known. Gays have a higher rate of transmission that heterosexual. But what does it got to do with adopting children?

For many gay couples who want to adopt a child, they will do it through a surrogate mother. If the surrogate mother is healthy, it is possible for a HIV+ man to have biological children. Look at this surrogate website that helps HIV+ parents to have children.

https://www.growinggenerations.com/surrogacy-program/intended-parents/hiv/

The LGBT community definitely needs to face up to the fact that rate of transmission of HIV is indeed higher among gays and do more to campaign for safe sex practices. But as far as child adoption is concerned, being a HIV+ does not impact on whether a gay couple makes suitable parents.
 

ginfreely

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There is no rights to speak of for the child, unfortunately, when they are thrust into the "family" unit, by means of surrogacy or worse, adoption, if that is allowable for same sex parents.

The choice is not theirs, but already made for them.

It's a sad fact, that when one is born or raised into this kind of "family" unit that it's already skewed towards the unnatural.

Yes I think that's what those adult kids in the article are complaining being destined of one gender influence and deprived of the right of two gender influence in their growing up.
 

ginfreely

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so u think the perfect and only "family" unit is the natural parents?what if the parents were totally fucked up and that was what led to the reason for adoption anyway,the state had to intervene and step in.is it better to have one "parent" who truly cares or both parents who are complete scumbags?and ginfreely said the child is denied the rights of having a natural family structure,what about the tons of children that were raised in single parent families for whatever reason death,divorce,jail or suicide or illness.

You are not comparing apple to apple. Those you said death, sickness, divorce etc are all subsequent events that also apply to same sex parents. Like what TS said, what happened when same sex parents divorce? So same sex parents can also end up single parent family with single parent issues and the comparison here should be between two same sex parents and traditional parents.
 

ginfreely

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so u saying the males have to be the fatherly figure and the females the motherly figure,same goes for the boys and girls and brothers and sisters and nieces and cousins?girls have to play the traditional female roles and boys have to play the traditional male roles?no guys putting on makeup and bras and pregnant suits acting as mrs doubtfire?what if guy marries a girl from the army,the guy happens to be a little sissy and artsy fartsy and likes fashion,and the girl happens to be the most masculine macho dyke military sergeant u ever seen?will there be any confusion there?is it possible for single woman to raise up strong,independent,emotionally healthy children same goes for single fathers or is it someplace somewhere their brains synapses and neurons are being fooled and they is need a father or mother figure immediately or.....

I think how the kids turned out to be sissy or masculine is another matter. Now is about the same sex parents whether depriving their kids of their right to two gender influence. Of course due to natural and sad causes like death, sickness, divorce or irresponsible parents, kids may end up with single parent and still grow up to become outstanding individuals.
 
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