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Serious Did NS Absconder Janil Puthucheary kaykiang and made Ah Heng's condition worse?

shiokalingam

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Wherever they are having a meeting....they should have a medical team on standby.....afterall, most of them are already OLD...


fully agree :biggrin:





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steffychun

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Dear Pap,

http://definitions.uslegal.com/g/good-samaritans/



A good samaritan in legal terms refers to someone who renders aid in an emergency to an injured person on a voluntary basis. Usually, if a volunteer comes to the aid of an injured or ill person who is a stranger, the person giving the aid owes the stranger a duty of being reasonably careful. A person is not obligated by law to do first aid in most states, not unless it's part of a job description. However, some states will consider it an act of negligence though, if a person doesn't at least call for help. Generally, where an unconscious victim cannot respond, a good samaritan can help them on the grounds of implied consent. However, if the victim is conscious and can respond, a person should ask their permission to help them first.

Some states offer immunity to good samaritans, but sometimes negligence could result in a claim of negligent care if the injuries or illness were made worse by the volunteer's negligence. Statutes typically don't exempt a good samaritan who acts in a willful and wanton or reckless manner in providing the care, advice, or assistance. Good samaritan laws often don't apply to a person rendering emergency care, advice, or assistance during the course or regular employment, such as services rendered by a health care provider to a patient in a health care facility.

Under the good samaritan laws which grant immunity, if the good samaritan makes an error while rendering emergency medical care, he or she cannot be held legally liable for damages in court. However, two conditions usually must be met; 1) the aid must be given at the scene of the emergency, and. 2) if the "volunteer" has other motives, such as the hope of being paid a fee or reward, then the law will not apply.

The following is an example of a state good samaritan statute:

When any doctor of medicine or dentistry, nurse, member of any organized rescue squad, member of any police or fire department, member of any organized volunteer fire department, emergency medical technician, intern or resident practicing in a hospital with training programs approved by the American Medical Association, state trooper, medical aidman functioning as a part of the military assistance to safety and traffic program, chiropractor, or public education employee gratuitously and in good faith, renders first aid or emergency care at the scene of an accident, casualty, or disaster to a person injured therein, he or she shall not be liable for any civil damages as a result of his or her acts or omissions in rendering first aid or emergency care, nor shall he or she be liable for any civil damages as a result of any act or failure to act to provide or arrange for further medical treatment or care for the injured person.
Any member of the crew of a helicopter which is used in the performance of military assistance to safety and traffic programs and is engaged in the performance of emergency medical service acts shall be exempt from personal liability for any property damages caused by helicopter downwash or by persons disembarking from the helicopter.
When any physician gratuitously advises medical personnel at the scene of an emergency episode by direct voice contact, to render medical assistance based upon information received by voice or biotelemetry equipment, the actions ordered taken by the physician to sustain life or reduce disability shall not be considered liable when the actions are within the established medical procedures.
Any person who is qualified by a federal or state agency to perform mine rescue planning and recovery operations, including mine rescue instructors and mine rescue team members, and any person designated by an operator furnishing a mine rescue team to supervise, assist in planning or provide service thereto, who, in good faith, performs or fails to perform any act or service in connection with mine rescue planning and recovery operations shall not be liable for any civil damages as a result of any acts or omissions. Nothing contained in this subsection shall be construed to exempt from liability any person responsible for an overall mine rescue operation, including an operator of an affected facility and any person assuming responsibility therefor under federal or state statutes or regulations.
A person or entity, who in good faith and without compensation renders emergency care or treatment to a person suffering or appearing to suffer from cardiac arrest, which may include the use of an automated external defibrillator, shall be immune from civil liability for any personal injury as a result of care or treatment or as a result of any act or failure to act in providing or arranging further medical treatment where the person acts as an ordinary prudent person would have acted under the same or similar circumstances, except damages that may result for the gross negligence of the person rendering emergency care. This immunity shall extend to the licensed physician or medical authority who is involved in automated external defibrillator site placement, the person who provides training in CPR and the use of the automated external defibrillator, and the person or entity responsible for the site where the automated external defibrillator is located. This subsection specifically excludes from the provision of immunity any designers, manufacturers, or sellers of automated external defibrillators for any claims that may be brought against such entities based upon current law.

For example, te following is the Hawaii Good Samaritan Act

"Any person who in good faith renders emergency care, without renumeration or expectation of renumeration, at the scene of an accident or emergency to the victim of the accident or emergency shall not be liable for any civil damages resulting from the persons acts or omission, except for such damages as may result from the persons gross negligence or wanton acts or omissions."

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It is quite clear Janil didnt follow this Ang Moh Law.
 

harimau

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Singaporeans keep dropping down like flies outside and inside of Parliament.

The entire country is getting very unhealthy.

Unhealthy Hawker food must be completely banned.
 

CoffeeAhSoh

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Singaporeans keep dropping down like flies outside and inside of Parliament.

The entire country is getting very unhealthy.

Unhealthy Hawker food must be completely banned.




The Moral Of the Story : Istana owes All Guests and Members A Duty Of Care . Period .
Case Closed .
 

harimau

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Moral of the story.

Mistakes or oversights can be forgiven when your intentions are good and you response with utmost urgency.

Puthucheary should be promoted to full Minister and SSG Janice Lee should be promoted to Lieutenant!

Both are performing well beyond anyone expectations.

Recommendations to Ah Loong! Hee!
 
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eatshitndie

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I think clearly the issue here is not about Janil as there is no reason to indicate that he made a blunder or that he tried to "hao lian". Janil was capable of tending to HSK and he did the right thing by responding quickly.

You must also remember that it was a high pressure situation and there is a tendency to second-guess after the fact.

yes, agree. this is the most reasonable and balanced post of the weekend. anything can go awry in a time-sensitive, high-stress situation. and sinkie second-guessers will cum out in droves to do their monday morning quarterbacking. everything always kpkb. at first the hatred for pappie ministars is so steep they want them to die. but when they don't die, they kpkb that attending physician does not know his job. but when doctor does his job well and ministars survive and recover, they will kpkb that doctor should have done a lousy job to let them die. tails we lose heads they win. all they know is kpkb pretending to be know-all and tpx. this site is displaying the stupid sinkie mentality for the world to see.
 

Wunderfool

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I know of girl who was aged 14 who collapsed in school and was rushed to hospital by ambulance. She has the same thing as Swee Keat - aneurysm. They surgically intervened and she then had to go thru the various rehabilitative processes such as physiotherapy. Fast forward and she is now a medical student. I saw her at a function recently and forgot that she was the one who had the stroke. She was absolutely normal. I did recall the parents saying that she had to go for follow-up surgery and that she recovered fully.

Sadly this is the only case I personally know of a stroke victim recovering fully. But it does say there is hope.

Well, today's New Paper published an article about a former body-builder who suffered a stroke 2 years ago and at that time, the doctors told his family that he had only 5% chance of a survival. Today, he is recovered, although he could not regain back his full strength. He is able to walk, talk, run and even carry weights.

There is hope for stroke victims.
 

marjojohn

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yes, agree. this is the most reasonable and balanced post of the weekend. anything can go awry in a time-sensitive, high-stress situation. and sinkie second-guessers will cum out in droves to do their monday morning quarterbacking. everything always kpkb. at first the hatred for pappie ministars is so steep they want them to die. but when they don't die, they kpkb that attending physician does not know his job. but when doctor does his job well and ministars survive and recover, they will kpkb that doctor should have done a lousy job to let them die. tails we lose heads they win. all they know is kpkb pretending to be know-all and tpx. this site is displaying the stupid sinkie mentality for the world to see.

The bottomline is how's heng swee kiat now?? The talk now is like he's ok lah and now is time to say who save him lah....Back to facts to-date. He's sedate. I checked dictionary mean he's composed. But no one has spoken he has come to conscious and start talking?? So I supposed he's lying on a bed looking very composed as the blood has stopped bleeding and probably connected by many machines recording heart beat and brain activity. Sound like my grandfather at the ICU hospital bed...can die anytime. Next how much damage has been done to the brain? Nothing said. So in short he's in a coma now. When will he come to conscious? Nothing said. But on government side, seem like celeb time because tat man never die!!! Think it's time to reshuffle cards!
 

Wunderfool

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Singaporeans keep dropping down like flies outside and inside of Parliament.

The entire country is getting very unhealthy.

Unhealthy Hawker food must be completely banned.

I don't think it is the food. Hawker food has been with us for the last 50 years.

The difference could be the people are more active before than today so they are naturally healthier and more resilient to stress.
 

frenchbriefs

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One of the reasons why there is so much pain and suffering in this world is because humans intervene in the natural process of dying.

Strokes are supposed to kill. Keeping stroke victims alive condemns them to a long period of suffering which is not what nature intended.

next time u should wear the do not resuscitate tag and we will know not to intervene with mother nature.
 

garlic

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I'm not sure whether Ah neh kachang puteh did was right, but my mat friends who are from SCDF, say there are two set things they do the most when in camp. Practice CPR, drip, cast,brace, draw blood and area cleaning. For fireman is practice responding to reduce the response time everyday (few times everyday) when the bell rings and area cleaning. So, we can safely say our SCDF boys are definitely expert at area cleaning.
 

frenchbriefs

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Well, today's New Paper published an article about a former body-builder who suffered a stroke 2 years ago and at that time, the doctors told his family that he had only 5% chance of a survival. Today, he is recovered, although he could not regain back his full strength. He is able to walk, talk, run and even carry weights.

There is hope for stroke victims.

whats the point of living life as half human half veg?
 

bigboss

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Dr. Janil saved our finance minister's life, assholes! We should all be on our knees, thanking him and sucking his cock. Otherwise, there would have been a stock market crash the next day if our Finance Minister died suddenly.

You like to write cock and bull tale. Singapo is dependent on one man to keep stock market from crashing? Don't make LKY spin in his urn.

This ah neh did not serve NS like all ordinary sinkies and he got the cheek to say he is a patriot? Please lah. Locals are no fools.
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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yes, agree. this is the most reasonable and balanced post of the weekend. anything can go awry in a time-sensitive, high-stress situation. and sinkie second-guessers will cum out in droves to do their monday morning quarterbacking. everything always kpkb.


People need to stop shooting off the hip. That's what a lot of people do on facebook and it only gives the other side more ammo as well as alienates themselves from more moderate / mainstream people. I see this a lot of time on blogs where writers just criticize after the fact without considering the nuances of what happened.
 
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