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dr.wailing

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Hola VPN Sells Users’ Bandwidth, Founder Confirms

The operator of 8chan says the bandwidth of millions of Hola users is being sold for reuse, with some of it even being used to attack his site. Speaking with TorrentFreak, Hola founder Ofer Vilenski says that users' idle resources are indeed utilized for commercial sale, but that has been the agreement all along.

Faced with increasing local website censorship and Internet services that restrict access depending on where a user is based, more and more people are turning to specialist services designed to overcome such limitations.

With prices plummeting to just a few dollars a month in recent years, VPNs are now within the budgets of most people. However, there are always those who prefer to get such services for free, without giving much consideration to how that might be economically viable.

One of the most popular free VPN/geo-unblocking solutions on the planet is operated by Israel-based Hola. It can be added to most popular browsers in seconds and has an impressive seven million users on Chrome alone. Overall the company boasts 46 million users of its service.

Now, however, the company is facing accusations from 8chan message board operator Fredrick Brennan. He claims that Hola users’ computers were used to attack his website without their knowledge, and that was made possible by the way Hola is setup.

When a user installs Hola, he becomes a VPN endpoint, and other users of the Hola network may exit through his internet connection and take on his IP. This is what makes it free: Hola does not pay for the bandwidth that its VPN uses at all, and there is no user opt out for this,” Brennan says.

This means that rather than having their IP addresses cloaked behind a private server, free Hola users are regularly exposing their IP addresses to the world but associated with other people’s traffic – no matter what that might contain.

While this will come as a surprise to many, Hola says it has never tried to hide the methods it employs to offer a free service.

Speaking with TorrentFreak, Hola founder Ofer Vilenski says that his company offers two tiers of service – the free option (which sees traffic routed between Hola users) and a premium service, which operates like a traditional VPN.

However, Brennan says that Hola goes a step further, by selling Hola users’ bandwidth to another company.

“Hola has gotten greedy. They recently (late 2014) realized that they basically have a 9 million IP strong botnet on their hands, and they began selling access to this botnet (right now, for HTTP requests only) at https://luminati.io,” the 8chan owner says.

TorrentFreak asked Vilenski about Brennan’s claims. Again, there was no denial.

“We have always made it clear that Hola is built for the user and with the user in mind. We’ve explained the technical aspects of it in our FAQ and have always advertised in our FAQ the ability to pay for non-commercial use,” Vilenski says.

And this is how it works.

Hola generates revenue by selling a premium service to customers through its Luminati brand. The resources and bandwidth for the Luminati product are provided by Hola users’ computers when they are sitting idle. In basic terms, Hola users get their service for free as long as they’re prepared to let Hola hand their resources to Luminati for resale. Any users who don’t want this to happen can buy Hola for $5 per month.

Fair enough perhaps – but how does Luminati feature in Brennan’s problems? It appears his interest in the service was piqued after 8chan was hit by multiple denial of service attacks this week which originated from the Luminati / Hola network.

“An attacker used the Luminati network to send thousands of legitimate-looking POST requests to 8chan’s post.php in 30 seconds, representing a 100x spike over peak traffic and crashing PHP-FPM,” Brennan says.

Again, TorrentFreak asked Vilenski for his input. Again, there was no denial.

“8chan was hit with an attack from a hacker with the handle of BUI. This person then wrote about how he used the Luminati commercial VPN network to hack 8chan. He could have used any commercial VPN network, but chose to do so with ours,” Vilenski explains.

“If 8chan was harmed, then a reasonable course of action would be to obtain a court order for information and we can release the contact information of this user so that they can further pursue the damages with him.”

Vilenski says that Hola screens users of its “commercial network” (Luminati) prior to them being allowed to use it but in this case “BUI” slipped through the net. “Adjustments” have been made, Hola’s founder says.

“We have communicated directly with the founder of 8Chan to make sure that once we terminated BUI’s account they’ve had no further problems, and it seems that this is the case,” Vilenski says.

It is likely the majority of Hola’s users have no idea how the company’s business model operates, even though it is made fairly clear in its extensive FAQ/ToS [see note below]. Installing a browser extension takes seconds and if it works as advertised, most people will be happy.

Whether this episode will affect Hola’s business moving forward is open to question but for those with a few dollars to spend there are plenty of options in the market. Until then, however, those looking for free options should read the small print before clicking install.

Update: It appears that Hola only recently changed/edited their FAQ to add in the details about Luminati. We have asked the company to tell us exactly when those changes were made. Updates when they arrive.
 

yellowarse

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What do you expect from the jowdy Jews? They give you a dollar with one hand, and take back 10 dollars with the other ... or your pound of flesh.
 

Leongsam

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What do you expect from the jowdy Jews? They give you a dollar with one hand, and take back 10 dollars with the other ... or your pound of flesh.

You're an ass for sure. It's a FREE service so what sort of "flesh" are you being asked to give up?
 

yellowarse

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You're an ass for sure. It's a FREE service so what sort of "flesh" are you being asked to give up?

Just two, twit.

1. Conning you into thinking that you're getting a 'free' VPN when they're actually using your computer for a botnet – exposing it all kinds of risk.

2. Giving you 'free' bandwidth and then selling the gifted bandwidth to others. Like giving you a watch, and then taking it back and hocking it when you're not looking.

As I say, what d'ya expect from the stinkin' Shylocks?
 

tonychat

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this is what happen when people go for free...example free fuck comes with a price..
 

Leongsam

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Just two, twit.

1. Conning you into thinking that you're getting a 'free' VPN when they're actually using your computer for a botnet – exposing it all kinds of risk.

2. Giving you 'free' bandwidth and then selling the gifted bandwidth to others. Like giving you a watch, and then taking it back and hocking it when you're not looking.

As I say, what d'ya expect from the stinkin' Shylocks?

as a Burmese Jew I take considerable offence to your accusations. The arrangement is mutually beneficial and deprives you of absolutely nothing while enhancing your connection far more than it compromises anything.

If if you aren't happy just don't use it you twit.:rolleyes:
 

yellowarse

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The arrangement is mutually beneficial and deprives you of absolutely nothing while enhancing your connection far more than it compromises anything.

Disagree, dickhead.

1. Joining a botnet opens up my computer to risks that far outweigh the benefits of hiding behind another server's IP address.

2. Even if I thought it was mutually beneficial, I would like to know the actual terms of the arrangement. No one likes to be duped, even if it's 'free'. Like my watch example above: I didn't lose a cent, but I was pissed that you pretended to gift me a watch when you didn't.

Again, no offence to Jews, Burmese or otherwise, but kikes will be kikes. That's why they have been hated and persecuted the world over, for the past 2,000 years. That's a fact. Swallow it like a man. :biggrin:
 

tonychat

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Disagree, dickhead.

1. Joining a botnet opens up my computer to risks that far outweigh the benefits of hiding behind another server's IP address.

2. Even if I thought it was mutually beneficial, I would like to know the actual terms of the arrangement. No one likes to be duped, even if it's 'free'. Like my watch example above: I didn't lose a cent, but I was pissed that you pretended to gift me a watch when you didn't.

Again, no offence to Jews, Burmese or otherwise, but kikes will be kikes. That's why they have been hated and persecuted the world over, for the past 2,000 years. That's a fact. Swallow it like a man. :biggrin:

it is always better to pay for a service than to get it free.. free means has a catch to it or some averse effects coming your way.
 

LOL2015

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as a Burmese Jew I take considerable offence to your accusations. The arrangement is mutually beneficial and deprives you of absolutely nothing while enhancing your connection far more than it compromises anything.

If if you aren't happy just don't use it you twit.:rolleyes:

You should immediately STOP promoting HOLA Shit.

If you allow it, why don't you stop moderating this forum ?
 

yellowarse

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it is always better to pay for a service than to get it free.. free means has a catch to it or some averse effects coming your way.

"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch." Get a paid VPN service ... they're quite affordable these days.
 

Leongsam

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2. Even if I thought it was mutually beneficial, I would like to know the actual terms of the arrangement. No one likes to be duped, even if it's 'free'. Like my watch example above: I didn't lose a cent, but I was pissed that you pretended to gift me a watch when you didn't.

The terms of the arrangement are spelt out clear as day at http://hola.org/faq

Hola is not pretending to gift you anything and then breaking a promise. The architecture is explained very clearly in the FAQ.

You're simply jealous of the Jews because you're dumb in comparison.
 

Leongsam

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it is always better to pay for a service than to get it free.. free means has a catch to it or some averse effects coming your way.

There are no adverse effects from using Hola.

There are considerable number of adverse effects from not using a VPN service.

The article makes use of the word "botnet" to stoke negative connotations. However the term is generic and like all things in life, can be either beneficial or malicious depending on what the botnet is designed for.
 

Leongsam

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Right from the first day to be exact :wink:

Hola is the best free VPN service around.

Singapore based internet users face far more dangerous threats from their own government than they do using free Hola.
 

yellowarse

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Hola is not pretending to gift you anything and then breaking a promise. The architecture is explained very clearly in the FAQ.

You're getting dumb and dumber.

The architecture is explained in the FAQ, but nowhere does it say that they're selling your bandwidth. Remember, your computer is part of the botnet, so your bandwidth goes into a common pool as well, where the commercial potential lies. That's stealing and fraud, so typical of the money-grubbing jowdies.

I'm not jealous of the Jews, trust me. There are some Jewish individuals that I admire, but they have many traits as a race that I despise. By the way, my IQ is way higher than the average Jew. Just so, if being smart equates with using your brains to cheat people of their money, then I don't want that kind of smarts. :smile:
 
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eatshitndie

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Hola is the best free VPN service around.

Singapore based internet users face far more dangerous threats from their own government than they do using free Hola.

smartphone users, especially on android, download crap-apps for free and face more risks of being used as tracking zombies and botnet end-points without their awareness than the free hola vpn service. some of the seemingly most simple apps such as torchlight apps contain some of the most sophisticated software for data mining and spying on a user's privacy. and free games too, such as clash of clans and game of war.
 
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