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Chinese villagers 'descended from a lost legion Roman soldiers'

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Tests found that the DNA of some villagers in Liqian, on the fringes of the Gobi Desert in north-western China, was 56 per cent Caucasian in origin.
Many of the villagers have blue or green eyes, long noses and even fair hair, prompting speculation that they have European blood.

A local man, Cai Junnian, is nicknamed by his friends and relatives Cai Luoma, or Cai the Roman, and is one of many villagers convinced that he is descended from the lost legion.
Archeologists plan to conduct digs in the region, along the ancient Silk Route, to search for remains of forts or other structures built by the fabled army.
"We hope to prove the legend by digging and discovering more evidence of China's early contacts with the Roman Empire," Yuan Honggeng, the head of a newly-established Italian Studies Centre at Lanzhou University in Gansu province, told the China Daily newspaper.

The genetic tests have leant weight to the theory that Roman legionaries settled in the area in the first century BC after fleeing a disastrous battle.
The clash took place in 53BC between an army led by Marcus Crassus, a Roman general, and a larger force of Parthians, from what is now Iran, bringing to an abrupt halt the Roman Empire's eastwards expansion.

Thousands of Romans were slaughtered and Crassus himself was beheaded, but some legionaries were said to have escaped the fighting and marched east to elude the enemy.
They supposedly fought as mercenaries in a war between the Huns and the Chinese in 36BC – Chinese chroniclers refer to the capture of a "fish-scale formation" of troops, a possible reference to the "tortoise" phalanx formation perfected by legionnaries. The wandering Roman soldiers are thought to have been released and to have settled on the steppes of western China.
The theory was first put forward in the 1950s by Homer Dubs, a professor of Chinese history at Oxford University.

The Roman Empire reached its greatest territorial extent under the Emperor Trajan in the 2nd century AD, just as the Han empire was beginning to decline.
Most historians believe that the two empires had only indirect contact, as silk and spices were traded along the Silk Road through merchants in exchange for Roman goods such as glassware.
But some experts believe they could instead be descended from the armies of Huns that marauded through central Asia, which included soldiers of Caucasian origin.
Maurizio Bettini, a classicist and anthropologist from Siena University, dismissed the theory as "a fairy tale".

"For it to be indisputable, one would need to find items such as Roman money or weapons that were typical of Roman legionaries," he told La Repubblica. "Without proof of this kind, the story of the lost legions is just a legend."
 

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By the way half a million of them have Aids.

Half a million is nothing. India has 2.1 million HIV/AIDS infected people, 4 out of 10 in Asia, #3 in the world.


Updated: July 17, 2014 12:55 IST

India has 3rd-highest number of HIV-infected people: UN


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The HinduIn India, the numbers of new HIV infections declined by 19 per cent, yet it still accounted for 38 per cent of all new HIV infections in the Asia—Pacific region. Photo: Akhilesh Kumar


India has the third-highest number of people living with HIV in the world with 2.1 million Indians accounting for about four out of 10 people infected with the deadly virus in the Asia—Pacific region, according to a UN report.

The report by UNAIDS, the United Nations programme on HIV/AIDS, said that 19 million of the 35 million people living with the virus globally do not know their HIV—positive status and so ending the AIDS epidemic by 2030 will require smart scale—up to close the gap.

The first—ever UNAIDS ‘Gap Report’ said after sub—Saharan Africa, the region with the largest number of people living with HIV is Asia and the Pacific.

At the end of 2013, there were an estimated 4.8 million people living with HIV across the region.

Six countries - China, India, Indonesia, Myanmar, Thailand, and Vietnam - account for more than 90 per cent of the people living with HIV in the region.

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“India has the third largest number of people living with HIV in the world — 2.1 million at the end of 2013 — and accounts for about 4 out of 10 people living with HIV in the region,” the report said.

It said HIV treatment coverage is only 36 per cent in India, where 51 per cent of AIDS—related deaths occur.

In India, the numbers of new HIV infections declined by 19 per cent, yet it still accounted for 38 per cent of all new HIV infections in the region.

The proportions of people who do not have access to antiretroviral therapy treatment are 64 per cent in India.

In Asia and the Pacific, the number of AIDS—related deaths fell by 37 per cent between 2005 and 2013, the report said.

India recorded a 38 per cent decline in AIDS—related deaths between 2005 and 2013. During this period, there was a major scale up of access to HIV treatment, it said.

At the end of 2013, more than 700,000 people were on antiretroviral therapy, the second largest number of people on treatment in any single country.

In India, HIV prevalence among female sex workers dropped from 10.3 per cent to 2.7 per cent but it increased in the states of Assam, Bihar and Madhya Pradesh, the report said.

A look at the HIV prevalence among sex workers:
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(Source: UN GAP report)
The estimated population size of sex workers is 868,000, of which 2.8 per cent is HIV—positive. In India, HIV prevalence among women who inject drugs was nearly twice that or more than the figures for their male counterparts, it said.

 

wikiphile

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DNA results says otherwise. Anyway the Romans were recruiting from non Italian manpower sources for their legions all the time. So no Italian DNA also not suprising
 

yellowarse

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DNA results says otherwise. Anyway the Romans were recruiting from non Italian manpower sources for their legions all the time. So no Italian DNA also not suprising

Unlikely to be Romans. Many inhabitants in the Chinese N-W have Central Asian Turkish blood – the Hui and Uighurs in particular. Admixture with Han people has also resulted in some Han folks with fair hair and greyish green or blue eyes. Some pics of the N-W tribes:

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I like the one on the right. :p

Unlikely to be Romans. Many inhabitants in the Chinese N-W have Central Asian Turkish blood – the Hui and Uighurs in particular. Admixture with Han people has also resulted in some Han folks with fair hair and greyish green or blue eyes. Some pics of the N-W tribes:

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This myth has been perpetuated for decades. When will it end? Even if there was a lost roman legion n they rooted the local population. After 2000 years etc. The genes would have diluted soo much as they will most likely interbreed with the local..the ang.mor genes would be basically gone.
 

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This myth has been perpetuated for decades. When will it end? Even if there was a lost roman legion n they rooted the local population. After 2000 years etc. The genes would have diluted soo much as they will most likely interbreed with the local..the ang.mor genes would be basically gone.

The funny thing about genes is they can lie dormant for generations and suddenly surface in one iteration. So don't be surprised if ur wife suddenly give birth to a son that looks like Michael Jackson.
 
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