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RTS rapid transit system linking Johor and Singapore (MASTEEL)

snowbird

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Why is it called the "final transit terminal", "terminating station" or "last stop" if there are only 2 terminals/stations/stops in the entire RTS link - ie. Bt Chagar and Woodlands North (the Thomson line is a separate line, although interchanging with RTS)? They can just call it the "JB station", no?

Aren't both these stations "final transit terminals", "terminating stations" or "last stops", depending on which direction you are heading?

Unless of course they intend the line to have more than these 2 stations - mebbe 2 stations on Johor soil itself? After all Bt Chagar is diagonally opposite from Woodlands North, not directly opposite. Could they be considering another station near where Vantage Bay is, which is more or less directly opposite from Woodlands North? Remember who is behind VB...

All the while, the emphasis is on the line from SG to this CIQ terminal at Bukit Chagar.
Whether the line continues and goes beyond this Bukit Chagar station and for how many more km, how many more stations along the way and where, is NOT mentioned.
I think if they ever build this RTS connection, they will probably build this short line first as Phase 1.
As for the extension portion, will be on a later date as Phase 2 depending other factors like finance (eg if Phase goes way beyond budget, as usual), political climate, etc.
 

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All the while, the emphasis is on the line from SG to this CIQ terminal at Bukit Chagar.
Whether the line continues and goes beyond this Bukit Chagar station and for how many more km, how many more stations along the way and where, is NOT mentioned.
I think if they ever build this RTS connection, they will probably build this short line first as Phase 1.
As for the extension portion, will be on a later date as Phase 2 depending other factors like finance (eg if Phase goes way beyond budget, as usual), political climate, etc.
has the media from Singapore side mentioned about Bukit Chagar? No news leh.
 

RedsYNWA

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has the media from Singapore side mentioned about Bukit Chagar? No news leh.

So far, only NST (english) & chinapress (chinese) have reported the interview. But we are only a few mths away from Dec 14 deadline, so stay tuned.
 

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Many thanks for the update. Is this Sin Chew Daily? Actually option 1 alignment looks really comical. Why cant Aecom straighten and only curve it at the tailend near Bukit Chagar? Personal preference out of these 3 alignments is Option 2 underground, but I can see that it will be complex........
 

bigcroc

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Many thanks for the update. Is this Sin Chew Daily? Actually option 1 alignment looks really comical. Why cant Aecom straighten and only curve it at the tailend near Bukit Chagar? Personal preference out of these 3 alignments is Option 2 underground, but I can see that it will be complex........

Not sure which one. I read too many papers everyday but it is definitely from a Singapore's newspaper.
BTW the orientation of station seems to suggest it is heading to Danga Bay, not Danga City Mall/
 

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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/s-pore-has-no/1377254.html

S'pore has no confirmation of RTS terminus location in Johor Bahru: Transport Ministry.

SINGAPORE: The Ministry of Transport announced in a statement on Tuesday (Sep 23) that it is awaiting official confirmation from Malaysia on the location of the Rapid Transport System (RTS) in Johor Bahru before the next phase of the study can commence.

The statement was released in response to recent comments from Johor State Executive Committee Member for Public Works, Rural and Regional Development Hasni Mohammad. He had said that Singapore is "holding back" on the decision for alignment options for the RTS link.

The Transport Ministry said Singapore had informed Malaysia in June 2011 that the RTS terminal in Singapore would be located at Woodlands North, near Republic Polytechnic. While Mr Hasni recently said that the RTS terminal in Johor Bahru would be in Bukit Chagar, "Singapore has not received official confirmation from Malaysia on the location of the RTS terminus in Johor Bahru", the ministry's statement clarified.

"We look forward to Malaysia’s confirmation when the Malaysia-Singapore Joint Ministerial Committee for Iskandar Malaysia (JMCIM) meets next month, so that the project may proceed on time to the next phase of its study, as previously agreed by both sides," the statement added. "Confirmation of the location of the Johor Bahru RTS station is required before both sides can finalise the alignment of the crossing between Johor Bahru and Singapore.”
 

Davis

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Many thanks for the update. Is this Sin Chew Daily? Actually option 1 alignment looks really comical. Why cant Aecom straighten and only curve it at the tailend near Bukit Chagar? Personal preference out of these 3 alignments is Option 2 underground, but I can see that it will be complex........

Option 1 is design for F1 train :biggrin:
Underground : no money , if really have and build , the mrt fare will be very expensive
 
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Malaysia considers interim bus, rail services to ease Causeway congestion

The Malaysian authorities are exploring ways to mitigate the impact of recent toll hikes and heavy traffic at the Causeway. This includes the possibility of introducing cross-border train services.

This comes as Malaysia and Singapore move closer to finalising details about a high-speed rail project linking Kuala Lumpur to the city-state.

Mr Mohd Nur Ismal Mohd Kamal, CEO of Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission, said: "At one time, it was late night, and the queue from CIQ (Customs, Immigration and Quarantine complex) was backed up all the way to Johor town. This is not a situation that we should subject our people to.

"We are looking at providing more public transport options for people who are crossing the Causeway, looking at increasing bus services, we are even talking to KTM about the possibility of providing regional commuter services between Johor Bahru and Woodlands."

Any train service, however, would be temporary - this would last until the rapid transit system hoped to link up Johor Bahru with Singapore's MRT system is up and running. Details of the interim services are still being worked out, as are plans for another cross-border train service - a high-speed rail connecting Singapore and Kuala Lumpur.

"We are looking at reaching a bilateral agreement by the third quarter of next year," said Mr Mohd Nur Ismal. "Only after that can the tendering process happen and it may take anywhere between six months to a year to conclude the tendering process. Only after that construction can happen."

Malaysian authorities said there are still challenges ahead, but the chairman of Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission, Mr Syed Hamid Albar, is encouraged by the progress made so far. "For the first time, I think there is a political will, there is a lot of excitement, not only on the Malaysia side but more excitement on the Singapore side too," he said.
 

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[video]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/MRT_map_SGJB.svg/2000px-MRT_map_SGJB.svg.png[/video]
 

DCputeri

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Guess this will not move fast given the current deadlock situation between SIN-MAL.
Malaysia considers interim bus, rail services to ease Causeway congestion

The Malaysian authorities are exploring ways to mitigate the impact of recent toll hikes and heavy traffic at the Causeway. This includes the possibility of introducing cross-border train services.

This comes as Malaysia and Singapore move closer to finalising details about a high-speed rail project linking Kuala Lumpur to the city-state.

Mr Mohd Nur Ismal Mohd Kamal, CEO of Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission, said: "At one time, it was late night, and the queue from CIQ (Customs, Immigration and Quarantine complex) was backed up all the way to Johor town. This is not a situation that we should subject our people to.

"We are looking at providing more public transport options for people who are crossing the Causeway, looking at increasing bus services, we are even talking to KTM about the possibility of providing regional commuter services between Johor Bahru and Woodlands."

Any train service, however, would be temporary - this would last until the rapid transit system hoped to link up Johor Bahru with Singapore's MRT system is up and running. Details of the interim services are still being worked out, as are plans for another cross-border train service - a high-speed rail connecting Singapore and Kuala Lumpur.

"We are looking at reaching a bilateral agreement by the third quarter of next year," said Mr Mohd Nur Ismal. "Only after that can the tendering process happen and it may take anywhere between six months to a year to conclude the tendering process. Only after that construction can happen."

Malaysian authorities said there are still challenges ahead, but the chairman of Malaysia's Land Public Transport Commission, Mr Syed Hamid Albar, is encouraged by the progress made so far. "For the first time, I think there is a political will, there is a lot of excitement, not only on the Malaysia side but more excitement on the Singapore side too," he said.
 

RedsYNWA

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Guess this will not move fast given the current deadlock situation between SIN-MAL.

With Bukit Chagar all but confirmed, I think there's a chance that the official announcement of RTS site & alignment could be made in next month's Joint Ministerial Committee for Iskandar Malaysia (JMCIM).
 

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Tri Tower would be perfect for rental, but for self-stay, one would have to weigh the fact that the car entrance/exits would likely be blocked every weekend (& probably weekdays) by the massive no of vehicles at CIQ & RTS.....

Wah, like that is not having a peaceful environment leh.
 
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