Living in JB 2 (Johore)

[wuqi256]

Yah, prediction as guesses are a form of risky game.

I rather make an informed decision based on what's available in front of my eyes. Don't get me wrong, informed prediction (hindsight is always good of course) will get one very far. But with all these constant policy changes, it's as good as blind guess, if one is to make a prediction for a very far horizons ...

Agree, thats why after i did my due dilligence i decided to come out here.
You and i, our risk appetites are different as well. Not everyone can take it.

[DREAMorACTION]

I think this is the biggest problem with most of the parents. They feel safer believing that everything is given, as long as they do what are required to secure a place at school etc ... Helping out eca, be a "lollipop woman" (sorry, cant help lol) at the zebra lines outside schools etc etc. it's really hard to break this mindset, I can understand, given that my parents did the same for me. I also think its a genuine concern that priority will be given to sgporean with spore educational background vs sgporean with foreign educational background, unless the foreign education is from the top school that's recognized worldwide ...

Not really, other foreigners are also given access to our Unis. Some even free as they are on scholarship. Judging from the recognition the guys give to foreign certification even those from dubious countries/sources, it should be very safe. You can still send kids back to SG if you want/need them to sweat it out. Even local Malaysians in the past has been sending their kids to SG for their secondary school education. Those who will make it will make it. They have fire in their bellies.

There is never any guarantee. Even those who were in the system, given priority education or at least polytechnic, no matter how much you educate them, may still turn out to be prostitutes or some even become pornstars in the end.

Education is key but not everything, the right values, outlook in life is essential as well.

[wuqi256]

One thing i learnt is to never take anything for granted and never ever assumed things will stay the same 10-15 years down the road. Not for Johore, not for Singapore and definitely not the dynamics of how the world continues to evolve. Empires, countries and regimes come and go. What is spoken as a primary language today may become a secondary language in years to come. Who knows in life?

What works for the older generation may no longer be relevant right now. In the past, parents told one to study hard so that one can have a better future than the rest. How many U grads do we have right now? Even ah bengs have diplomas and even degrees these days.

Education is not the only differentiating factor nowadays with so many in the market, foreign or otherwise. How do you differentiate yourself from your nearest competitor? Upper class, first class honours or another MBA? Its like an arms race relentlessly evolving.

There is no 100% guarantee that education will get you anywhere these days even though its a still must have. It becomes a way to ensure that at least your skillsets are just par for the course and on even footing with all the talents in the world. There was a reason why they kept tweaking the education system in SG, even importing US ways as they realised the old ways are not good enough (or no longer as relevant) Being one step ahead, critical thinking and real worlds skills sets are what i hope to impart to my kids not just which ECA to choose to score more points.

Let us remember, there was never a dynasty in China which lasted throughout all time, every one was replaced by another one when the time was up. Qin by Han, Han by Jin, later Sui with Tang and Tang with Song etc.

Even after 1911 when the revolution came, so many things still changed after that.

The only permanence in life is change, the sooner we learnt to deal with it, the better.

[DREAMorACTION]

Very true bro. Even workplace culture like loyalty is worthless nowadays. Job hoppers everywHere. Employers retrench the long-serving employees like no one biz. Such is the change and reality.

Kids nowadays should be taught on the entrepreneurship skills more than anything. I wish I was brought up with more of this skill set, instead of being trapped in this rat race. Nonetheless, everyone of us will find ways to sustain and survive.

Bro greddy, for a start, u need to get your wife to start reading this forum to have a chance to move and change her. Gambateh!!

One thing i learnt is to never take anything for granted and never ever assumed things will stay the same 10-15 years down the road. Not for Johore, not for Singapore and definitely not the dynamics of how the world continues to evolve. Empires, countries and regimes come and go. What is spoken as a primary language today may become a secondary language in years to come. Who knows in life?

What works for the older generation may no longer be relevant right now. In the past, parents told one to study hard so that one can have a better future than the rest. How many U grads do we have right now? Even ah bengs have diplomas and even degrees these days.

Education is not the only differentiating factor nowadays with so many in the market, foreign or otherwise. How do you differentiate yourself from your nearest competitor? Upper class, first class honours or another MBA? Its like an arms race relentlessly evolving.

There is no 100% guarantee that education will get you anywhere these days even though its a still must have. It becomes a way to ensure that at least your skillsets are just par for the course and on even footing with all the talents in the world. There was a reason why they kept tweaking the education system in SG, even importing US ways as they realised the old ways are not good enough (or no longer as relevant) Being one step ahead, critical thinking and real worlds skills sets are what i hope to impart to my kids not just which ECA to choose to score more points.

Let us remember, there was never a dynasty in China which lasted throughout all time, every one was replaced by another one when the time was up. Qin by Han, Han by Jin, later Sui with Tang and Tang with Song etc.

Even after 1911 when the revolution came, so many things still changed after that.

The only permanence in life is change, the sooner we learnt to deal with it, the better.

[annelee]

hi, who are interest the Bandar Batok Onn GARDENIA2 2450FT...
PM me ASAP, anne_lee1129@hotmail.com
I'm no the property agent, just want to give up the house and get my booking fee back..

[arsenal]

True.. What you have today doesn't mean you can still have it in 10 years times.. Live life as it is, but don't wait until full retirement.. Blackberry was once something every corporate executives want but now it is as good as dead.. Apple is now very popular but I am getting tired of using it.. Singapore has been on a good run for 40 years.. Today there is a national divide between the elites and the norms, and the elites are bringing in foreigners for their votes against the citizens.. How long can it continue? After building 2 casinos, what is next? Some teachers become molesters and making smart money as tutors than spending time coaching the poor students.. Principals went to buy sex from underaged girls.. Civil servants getting caught in cheating govt money.. Ministers all while justifying to get more bonus for themselves and yet so difficult to raise the social funds for the umemployable for 270 to 300.. The govt in our country and others will not take care of you.. Be prepared. Do be prepared.

One thing i learnt is to never take anything for granted and never ever assumed things will stay the same 10-15 years down the road. Not for Johore, not for Singapore and definitely not the dynamics of how the world continues to evolve. Empires, countries and regimes come and go. What is spoken as a primary language today may become a secondary language in years to come. Who knows in life?

What works for the older generation may no longer be relevant right now. In the past, parents told one to study hard so that one can have a better future than the rest. How many U grads do we have right now? Even ah bengs have diplomas and even degrees these days.

Education is not the only differentiating factor nowadays with so many in the market, foreign or otherwise. How do you differentiate yourself from your nearest competitor? Upper class, first class honours or another MBA? Its like an arms race relentlessly evolving.

There is no 100% guarantee that education will get you anywhere these days even though its a still must have. It becomes a way to ensure that at least your skillsets are just par for the course and on even footing with all the talents in the world. There was a reason why they kept tweaking the education system in SG, even importing US ways as they realised the old ways are not good enough (or no longer as relevant) Being one step ahead, critical thinking and real worlds skills sets are what i hope to impart to my kids not just which ECA to choose to score more points.

Let us remember, there was never a dynasty in China which lasted throughout all time, every one was replaced by another one when the time was up. Qin by Han, Han by Jin, later Sui with Tang and Tang with Song etc.

Even after 1911 when the revolution came, so many things still changed after that.

The only permanence in life is change, the sooner we learnt to deal with it, the better.

[DREAMorACTION]

Geez bro ... This is a horrifying message because what u have pointed out is so real. I'm preparing, wait for me to get armed first..

True.. What you have today doesn't mean you can still have it in 10 years times.. Live life as it is, but don't wait until full retirement.. Blackberry was once something every corporate executives want but now it is as good as dead.. Apple is now very popular but I am getting tired of using it.. Singapore has been on a good run for 40 years.. Today there is a national divide between the elites and the norms, and the elites are bringing in foreigners for their votes against the citizens.. How long can it continue? After building 2 casinos, what is next? Some teachers become molesters and making smart money as tutors than spending time coaching the poor students.. Principals went to buy sex from underaged girls.. Civil servants getting caught in cheating govt money.. Ministers all while justifying to get more bonus for themselves and yet so difficult to raise the social funds for the umemployable for 270 to 300.. The govt in our country and others will not take care of you.. Be prepared. Do be prepared.

[arsenal]

Yes.. when we live overseas, we must also learn to blend in, respect locals and their cultures.. talk softly and enjoy what we don't have right here..
For ourselves, we got to lookout and help each other..

Geez bro ... This is a horrifying message because what u have pointed out is so real. I'm preparing, wait for me to get armed first..

[greddy88]

Bro, its generally pointless changing the minds of women (no offence to women here as they are of a different breed) once they have made up their minds.

The change need to come from them and internal rather than external as one needs to change their mindset first before going anywhere.

I fully understand his reasons and have nothing but well wishes for him and his family. For all you know, the exchange rate may one day drop to 1 SG to 5 RM so thats why even taking into account inflation, rises in property, it will still be possible for many to buy even then. Who knows?

As for me, i rather do something now then to do it when i am old and increasingly has lesser options with banks not willing to loan, etc.

thank you everyone for your well-wishes & suggestions.
i think bro wuqi understands my situation well (even though i have not really shared too much info about my life)

in fact, we have gone through thoughts of migration many years back... even applied pr to australia.
unfortunately due to global financial crisis, they tightened their immigration criteria. migrant managers become worthless and got to wait... trades and engineers get priority. i have lost touch of my tech skills years ago...
perhaps it is a blessing in disguise.. my wife is a fickle.. sees things only on the surface. i have prepared her as much as possible the type of life overseas.. encouraged her to read forums (and specific useful posts), flown there and met friends who stayed there.
i also sent her for driving lessons, to get a car for her due to poor public transport system over there.
she 'was' ready..
then my kids grow older.. started primary school.. her perspective change.. she wants the best for the kids.
she started to comment aussie gov education no standard too lax.. and private is too expensive.. so we dropped the idea after much debate.

last yr.. i started having thoughts of staying in jb instead.. done research, brought everyone there to look-see.
yes.. she 'was' happy and ready...we almost wanted to buy a resale.. then on deeper thoughts (after having laid down the potential issues).. she changed her mind again.
i have posted earlier, the kids attend extra classes at night/weekends.. so.. she won't compromise education, or anything that affects it (such as spending time traveling over the border everyday) even when the greener pastures are just out there.

well.. i have laid my cards on the table and done whatever i could.
we'll decide when the kids have grown..

that's life.. not everything goes your way.. paiseh.. a bit emo today

[arsenal]

No problem.. the most important thing is the family is happy.. It is not important if one is happy.. A few years down the road, when your kids are older and independent, your might have different ideas.. we might be wrong too.. but who knows?

thank you everyone for your well-wishes & suggestions.
i think bro wuqi understands my situation well (even though i have not really shared too much info about my life)

in fact, we have gone through thoughts of migration many years back... even applied pr to australia.
unfortunately due to global financial crisis, they tightened their immigration criteria. migrant managers become worthless and got to wait... trades and engineers get priority. i have lost touch of my tech skills years ago...
perhaps it is a blessing in disguise.. my wife is a fickle.. sees things only on the surface. i have prepared her as much as possible the type of life overseas.. encouraged her to read forums (and specific useful posts), flown there and met friends who stayed there.
i also sent her for driving lessons, to get a car for her due to poor public transport system over there.
she 'was' ready..
then my kids grow older.. started primary school.. her perspective change.. she wants the best for the kids.
she started to comment aussie gov education no standard too lax.. and private is too expensive.. so we dropped the idea after much debate.

last yr.. i started having thoughts of staying in jb instead.. done research, brought everyone there to look-see.
yes.. she 'was' happy and ready...we almost wanted to buy a resale.. then on deeper thoughts (after having laid down the potential issues).. she changed her mind again.
i have posted earlier, the kids attend extra classes at night/weekends.. so.. she won't compromise education, or anything that affects it (such as spending time traveling over the border everyday) even when the greener pastures are just out there.

well.. i have laid my cards on the table and done whatever i could.
we'll decide when the kids have grown..

that's life.. not everything goes your way.. paiseh.. a bit emo today

[crystal_tiong]

If u have babies now, And when u have raised them up till such a point when they need to attend school, will u move back to sinkie ar?

As of now , I won't move back. I dun mind to send my kids to school since I have to go to work too. If I am a housewife , I am also ok to send them to study in sg.

[crystal_tiong]

I didn't know jogs1 is a sis !

[crystal_tiong]

I think this is the biggest problem with most of the parents. They feel safer believing that everything is given, as long as they do what are required to secure a place at school etc ... Helping out eca, be a "lollipop woman" (sorry, cant help lol) at the zebra lines outside schools etc etc. it's really hard to break this mindset, I can understand, given that my parents did the same for me. I also think its a genuine concern that priority will be given to sgporean with spore educational background vs sgporean with foreign educational background, unless the foreign education is from the top school that's recognized worldwide ...

Wow , u must be very very young. My era dun hv such thing n my parent won't do it de.

[wuqi256]

Hi greddy, i hear you, at least you have tried, i just hope that it becomes better. Some friends who don't stay here are renting out their houses here in the meantime until they are ready to come in.

[wuqi256]

True.. What you have today doesn't mean you can still have it in 10 years times.. Live life as it is, but don't wait until full retirement.. Blackberry was once something every corporate executives want but now it is as good as dead.. Apple is now very popular but I am getting tired of using it.. Singapore has been on a good run for 40 years.. Today there is a national divide between the elites and the norms, and the elites are bringing in foreigners for their votes against the citizens.. How long can it continue? After building 2 casinos, what is next? Some teachers become molesters and making smart money as tutors than spending time coaching the poor students.. Principals went to buy sex from underaged girls.. Civil servants getting caught in cheating govt money.. Ministers all while justifying to get more bonus for themselves and yet so difficult to raise the social funds for the umemployable for 270 to 300.. The govt in our country and others will not take care of you.. Be prepared. Do be prepared.

Yes, agree nothing lasts for ever. Many however still have the idea that things in SG will continue unchanged for the next 50 years or even longer.
The whole society is on the change, people are changing too, no longer unquestioning robots. We need to take away the blinkers from our eyes and see things for ourselves, not what others want us to see. Only then we can take the necessary next steps. When you fail to plan, you plan to fail.

Why leave your fate in the hands of others when its painfully obvious that they didn't take care of the earlier cohort who may have contributed even more than you.

I rather get off than be on the conveyor belt.
http://youtu.be/bt0UbhlhbCE

[wuqi256]

Very true bro. Even workplace culture like loyalty is worthless nowadays. Job hoppers everywHere. Employers retrench the long-serving employees like no one biz. Such is the change and reality.

Kids nowadays should be taught on the entrepreneurship skills more than anything. I wish I was brought up with more of this skill set, instead of being trapped in this rat race. Nonetheless, everyone of us will find ways to sustain and survive.

Bro greddy, for a start, u need to get your wife to start reading this forum to have a chance to move and change her. Gambateh!!

Its tough and i truly feel sad for the next generation as its only going to get progressively harder and harder as time goes by. Its going to take much more than just education for one to be ahead of his peers. Being just booksmart is no longer enough.

[wuqi256]

Geez bro ... This is a horrifying message because what u have pointed out is so real. I'm preparing, wait for me to get armed first..

It is but its true nonetheless, need to start preparing for the next step as no one will take care of us when we are old and "worthless" to society.
Do not hope for the next generation to take care of one as they will have enough on their hands the way things are going.

Running around so busily like headless flies, we tend to forget to look at the next step.

[mika14]

Thanks for your concern,

Its a Honda Wave.

[crystal_tiong]

Yesterday just received billing notice from UOB dated 31st Mar to make payment and date due is 16th April.
They took so long to mail out the letter and now overdue I will kenna the interest of 1% !!

[toyohon]

Anyone thinking of Penang properties?

Published: Thursday April 19, 2012 MYT 1:18:00 PM

Penang mulls raising minimum price of landed properties to RM2mil for foreigners


GEORGE TOWN: The Penang Government wants to raise the minimum price for foreign purchases of landed properties in the state from the current RM500,000 to RM1mil in the mainland and RM2mil on the island respectively to protect local interest.

However, the existing limit of RM500,000 for permanent residents would be retained, said Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng.

He said the proposal was the first step to protect the interests of Malaysians. “We hope to implement the proposal by June or latest by July.

“Therefore, we would like to get feedback from non-governmental organisations, property developers, foreigners and the public,” he told reporters here Thursday