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Save me fm my greedy spouse

hollerhello

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Well, I am going to be commencing divorce proceedings. My spouse is the vengeful, spiteful sort and she has made her intentions clear about making sure that she will get as much as possible from my assets. She has engaged a vicious lawyer to help.

Now, I am prepared to pay reasonable share of the assets and generous with the maintenance. But having slogged all my life (while she enjoyed my money), it is difficult to part with a substantial chunk.

The lawyer advises me to move my money overseas under the radar. I am wondering how this can be done:

1. Is it doable in the first place?
2. What are the specific steps that I should follow?
3. How do I ensure that this is done in secrecy and confidence?
4. Does anyone know any firm that does this for a price?

Constructive and practical advice please
 

shOUTloud

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Can it really be done given that you are supposed to declare all assets to the court? Whatever you are hiding now if kanna reported in future, you would have to go to jail for perjury. Is it worth it?
 

hockbeng

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Can it really be done given that you are supposed to declare all assets to the court? Whatever you are hiding now if kanna reported in future, you would have to go to jail for perjury. Is it worth it?

That is the problem with the "Womens charter".
It has been abused by women in spore.
I have women friends from other countries like vietnam, korea, taiwan etc.. and they are shocked by what women can do to the men in spore courts.

Spore women are a materialistic lot. Many are now from small families or a single child, so they are just as spoiled as the boys.
But they dont do NS.
They also feel they are just as entitled as the men to education,jobs, equal pay and opportunities etc.. Rightfully so.

BUT they also want to be entitled to FREE $$$$ and automatic custody of the kids so that she can justify more maintenance $$$ when things go bad, and this has been abused.

Thanks to our PAP gov!
 

MarrickG

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TS, I'm afraid in Singapore, the women always win. Try to settle for a one time payment instead of monthly maintenance in order to make a clean cut (if possible), unless you have kids together.

It is a little to late to move the money now as it can be easily traced. Such transfers should be done over years if you think the marriage is not working out.The other way is to prove that she is of bad character to gain some pity on your side, hopefully it would 'cut your loss'.
 

TeeKee

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i think if you want to break up with her, you better do it in such a way that both side will amicable....don't hold on to papers too tight, otherwise it will bring much sorrows to your soul...think of how she has contributed to your family...could be priceless...and non quantifiable.

做人要知道放得下!
 

GoFlyKiteNow

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TS, I'm afraid in Singapore, the women always win. Try to settle for a one time payment instead of monthly maintenance in order to make a clean cut (if possible), unless you have kids together.

It is a little to late to move the money now as it can be easily traced. Such transfers should be done over years if you think the marriage is not working out.The other way is to prove that she is of bad character to gain some pity on your side, hopefully it would 'cut your loss'.

He says he is "commencing proceedings"..which I understand as not gone to the courts as yet - to make legal declarations and affidavits. So he should be free to move his money to any place he wants without any legal constraints.

Regarding immoveable assets like house, (if he is sole owner ) I think, if his wife has a smart lawyer, there maybe already some applications to place legal curbs in disposing off the same, till the impednding case is settled.
 

hollerhello

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Thanks for the responses. The house is in joint names, so nothing can be done.

What I am keen is to move the cash (US $250K) in the bank. I had to sell some of my investments in the last month and that cash is what I think she is eyeing.

Is it possible?
 

GoFlyKiteNow

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Thanks for the responses. The house is in joint names, so nothing can be done.

What I am keen is to move the cash (US $250K) in the bank. I had to sell some of my investments in the last month and that cash is what I think she is eyeing.

Is it possible?

Even if you move the funds, her lawyer can show that you have this liquid assets abraod, and thus ask the court to take that into account while determining the local asset division percentages..ending up you losing your share of the house totally.
Unless you can show that you "lost" the 250 K in unfortunate investments abroad.
 

Boliao

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Well.. from my personal experience (and it is not a pleasant one).. you will lose. You can never win against a woman in a Singapore court - no matter what proof you have. I had a well-known judge who is reputed to be fair and he told me.. "I don't care if you appeal against my judgement", knowing that I cannot afford to appeal since I've provided documents on all my finance.

You cannot hide your money as the court trace back whatever you have 5 years from the date of legel proceeding.. so no way you can hide..

My advice to you.. make it quick and clean or you'll incur more than you should. One of the comment here is correct - go for one lump sum.

Be nice to her. Woman are emotional so if you can appeal to her (maybe even confuse her emotions), you might have a better chance of a amicable and reasonable settlement.

Bro.. you're fucked! trust me.
 

shOUTloud

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This suggestion about being nice to the woman is very important. In the event that you have to give maintenance, you have to quickly marry your ex-wife off so that the maintenance can be stopped.

No point being bitter and quarrel with the woman all the time.
 

hankcock

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Maybe i can help you, my charges 10% of the money successfully transfer to your overseas a/c under a company name or the name of your choice, all dealings is legal, even if the sin authority knows they can't do anything.
 

GoFlyKiteNow

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Well.. from my personal experience (and it is not a pleasant one).. you will lose. You can never win against a woman in a Singapore court - no matter what proof you have. I had a well-known judge who is reputed to be fair and he told me.. "I don't care if you appeal against my judgement", knowing that I cannot afford to appeal since I've provided documents on all my finance.

You cannot hide your money as the court trace back whatever you have 5 years from the date of legel proceeding.. so no way you can hide..

My advice to you.. make it quick and clean or you'll incur more than you should. One of the comment here is correct - go for one lump sum.

Be nice to her. Woman are emotional so if you can appeal to her (maybe even confuse her emotions), you might have a better chance of a amicable and reasonable settlement.

Bro.. you're fucked! trust me.

I dont think, it is that bad as you put it. He has a good chance to get
a 50/50 ratio, provided other factors are supportive or opposed. Such as Children, Infidelity of spouse, abuse etc whose mitigating aspects are well defined in law.
 

cooleo

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Well, I am going to be commencing divorce proceedings. My spouse is the vengeful, spiteful sort and she has made her intentions clear about making sure that she will get as much as possible from my assets. She has engaged a vicious lawyer to help.

Now, I am prepared to pay reasonable share of the assets and generous with the maintenance. But having slogged all my life (while she enjoyed my money), it is difficult to part with a substantial chunk.

The lawyer advises me to move my money overseas under the radar. I am wondering how this can be done:

1. Is it doable in the first place?
2. What are the specific steps that I should follow?
3. How do I ensure that this is done in secrecy and confidence?
4. Does anyone know any firm that does this for a price?

Constructive and practical advice please

How old are u my frd? If not young, just play the WAIT AND HOLD tactic. Don't divorce her no matter what.

Just buy or rent a place outside and stay on your own. Same as divorced, no need to see the bitch wife.

No divorce, how can ur stoopid bitch wife claim alimony? Unless.... she apply divorce proceedings from only her side, but if you don't agree, still might take years.

If u die die must divorce, quickly transfer all assets to your parents or siblings, or just push to overseas swiss accounts.
 

ahbengsong

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Well, I am going to be commencing divorce proceedings. My spouse is the vengeful, spiteful sort and she has made her intentions clear about making sure that she will get as much as possible from my assets. She has engaged a vicious lawyer to help.

Take advices from here with a pinch of salt... there will be conster like smelly tong aka teekee here waiting... they'll play the sympathy and goodie part and then later 'volunteer' to help with the money part... ignore any offers to help in your private mails no matter how tempting it seems...
 

hollerhello

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How old are u my frd? If not young, just play the WAIT AND HOLD tactic. Don't divorce her no matter what.

Just buy or rent a place outside and stay on your own. Same as divorced, no need to see the bitch wife.

No divorce, how can ur stoopid bitch wife claim alimony? Unless.... she apply divorce proceedings from only her side, but if you don't agree, still might take years.

If u die die must divorce, quickly transfer all assets to your parents or siblings, or just push to overseas swiss accounts.

Thanks for your response bro :smile:

I am 52 and she's 51. We have a daughter who's Univ student overseas and is a student. And there's no custody issue here. Well, I am already staying outside and she lives in a luxurious condo (jointly owned) for which she paid less than 10%. As said earlier, it is my cash and cpf (180K) that she is angling for. Even now I am paying everything for the condo.

Well, if I don't apply for divorce, she certainly will. She's after my money and has a lawyer who's equally scheming.

I struggled all my life to make all the money, she enjoyed all the comforts and now she's keen to get the money.

I need some practical solutions. I may be forced to let go, but I don't intend to let go without a fight.

So bro, please help me out

No extramarital issue here.
 

Papsmearer

Alfrescian (InfP) - Comp
Generous Asset
Well, I am going to be commencing divorce proceedings. My spouse is the vengeful, spiteful sort and she has made her intentions clear about making sure that she will get as much as possible from my assets. She has engaged a vicious lawyer to help.

Now, I am prepared to pay reasonable share of the assets and generous with the maintenance. But having slogged all my life (while she enjoyed my money), it is difficult to part with a substantial chunk.

The lawyer advises me to move my money overseas under the radar. I am wondering how this can be done:

1. Is it doable in the first place?
2. What are the specific steps that I should follow?
3. How do I ensure that this is done in secrecy and confidence?
4. Does anyone know any firm that does this for a price?

Constructive and practical advice please

I can see why your wife divorced you. U sound like a typical pussy whipped wimpy sinkie male. Why u come on this forum and ask for info, info that you can figure out if you grow a pair of balls.

If she is vengeful and spiteful, you have to be even more vengeful or spiteful. U find her weaknesses and u exploit them. U find out what matters to her and take it away or hold it hostage. Does she have a pet? well, she will come home one day, and the pet will be gone. The more of a bitch she is in the divorce, she will suddenly find bits if her pet mailed to her. U get it?

U have money, hide it. Take out you $250K, go over to JB, and put it in a bank there. There is no trace, let her lawyer go and look for it. She hired a vicious lawyer? U hire an even more vicious one. U find the most asshole, tough and ruthless lawyer you can find, and hire him.

U go thru her mail, email, handphone, hire a PI and find any dirt you can on her and use it against her in court. Divorce is war. Its not about hiring a lawyer to figure out all this for you. U owe her NOTHING. not even maintenance. Fight her for every cent and every clause in the divorce. Draw it out in court and delay it as long as possible. Change the locks on your matrimonial home ,and kick her out. Cut of her credit cards, lines of credit, etc. See how she likes to live on pennies while the divorce is proceeding.

Come on, be a man, don't be a pussy. In your mind, you have already conceded defeat with talk of giving her a resonable settlement and shit like that. U give her nothing, understand. Get it thru your dumb head.
 

drifter

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
Even if you move the funds, her lawyer can show that you have this liquid assets abraod, and thus ask the court to take that into account while determining the local asset division percentages..ending up you losing your share of the house totally.
Unless you can show that you "lost" the 250 K in unfortunate investments abroad.

maybe he could take a bus to genting casino and say because due to stress he lose all the money ...possible ?
will genting provide any loser black and white to show that they lose 250k ? i dont know ,as i dont gamble ..if casino dont provide ..maybe he could try using this ...
 

hankcock

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Bro i'm a divorcee myself, what i do is put your money into buying a company in china, than refund back the money to you, once the her lawyers check the company is worthless, and i can assure you is not a crime to lose money in a "buisness venture" thats y you see your PM and his WIFE still smiling. Of course b4 you "invest" your money i will issue you a credit note of the money i owe you, so once your money in, my money will be transfer back to the name or company you appoint.
 

krafty

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Hancock! You sound very desperate,first,you want 10%, now you want the whole chunk. Mind me saying that this forum is for helping and advising pple free of charge. Dun come here and try to make money out of others,shove off!
Bro i'm a divorcee myself, what i do is put your money into buying a company in china, than refund back the money to you, once the her lawyers check the company is worthless, and i can assure you is not a crime to lose money in a "buisness venture" thats y you see your PM and his WIFE still Smiling . Of course b4 you "invest" your money i will issue you a credit note of the money i owe you, so once your money in, my money will be transfer back to the name or company you appoint.
 
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