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tun_dr_m

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You are Gong Kia, Chinese are the world most advanced radar maker.

New carrier got all the better model than Liao Ning already tested at sea, so they want to upgrade Liao Ning to have on par the latest best radar.

They are rich unlike the Pokai Ang Moh who are bankrupted and had to abandon F-35 already.

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2018-05-21/doc-ihawmaua0775921.shtml

我国产航母战力大幅领先辽宁舰:机库雷达舰岛全升级
我国产航母战力大幅领先辽宁舰:机库雷达舰岛全升级

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  国产航母的大致战斗力,比辽宁号提升了一个等级。4面有源相控阵雷达是辽宁号2面有源相控阵雷达的2倍,更何况还是辽宁号采用的346雷达的改进型。002航母的对空探测能力甚至不亚于任何一艘052D驱逐舰,这也让舰载战斗机的“眼光”更加长远。虽然002从总体来说还是辽宁号的改进型,但是内部经过的优化是有目共睹的。002的机库面积起码比辽宁号增加10%,通过舰岛后部甲板的优化也让002比辽宁号增加了一个泊机位。

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  俗话说,浓缩的就是精华。002的舰岛比辽宁号的舰岛小了点,但编队指挥舰桥和航空指挥舰桥分离,让舰员的指挥调配得以更加专心以外,还将雷达位置升高,对海探测距离也就更远一些。在舰载机方面,002作为首艘战斗航母在未来将会装备歼15D,也就是歼15的电子战型号。目前已经完成首飞,距离入役也不需太久了。据悉,有些机载电子设备还是与歼16的通用。起码舰载机的攻击效率,效果都能得到最大限度的提升。直20已经小批量试装,距离研制工作全面完成也不会太久了。通用直升机将会简化航母的舰载机型号,对舰载机维护来说是一件极其方便的事情,出勤率也能提高。

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  其实002航母早在2013年就铺设了龙骨,一共历时6年。3年时间就完成了从无到有,从图纸变为现实,这个速度已经算快了。从侧面也可以看出,002航母建造之初的困难。辽宁号是随着图纸一起来的,但光是图纸就有40吨。002其实一拿到图纸就可以开工,但显然一开始就不打算造瓦良格和库兹涅佐夫号的姊妹舰。航母的设计相当困难,002历时三年的设计就是个例子。不过,中国总算获得了一艘自产的航母。

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  这次出海,002测试了航母本身的动力和航海性能。其实,阻拦索等等一系列的助降措施还没看见。航母技术相当成熟的美国,“福特“号也是等到首次试航过后三个月才有舰载战斗机起降。要看到002的首次舰载战斗机起降,还要等好久。(作者署名:浩汉防务)

China's domestic aircraft carrier's combat strength has led the Liaoning ship significantly: hangar radar island full upgrade

China's domestic aircraft carrier's combat strength has led the Liaoning ship significantly: hangar radar island full upgrade


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The approximate combat effectiveness of domestic aircraft carriers has risen by one level compared with Liaoning. The 4-plane active phased-array radar is twice that of the Liaoning 2-plane active phased-array radar, not to mention the improved version of the 346 radar used by the Liaoning No. The 002 carrier's air detection capability is as good as any 052D destroyer, which also makes the ship-based fighter's "eye" more long-term. Although 002 is still an improved version of Liaoning, the internal optimization is obvious to all. The hangar area of 002 is at least 10% higher than that of Liaoning, and the optimization of the rear deck of the island has also allowed 002 to increase the number of parking spaces compared to Liaoning.


As the saying goes, concentration is the essence. The island of 002 is a little smaller than the island of Liaoning, but the formation command bridge and the aeronautical command bridge are separated, allowing the commander to deploy the commander to be more focused, and also to increase the radar position and distance to the sea. Farther away. In terms of carrier-based aircraft, the 002 as the first combat aircraft carrier will be equipped with 歼15D, which is the 电子15 electronic warfare model. The first flight has now been completed and it will not take too long to get into service. It is reported that some airborne electronic devices are still common with the R&S®16. At least the attack efficiency of the carrier aircraft can be maximized. Straight 20 has been installed in small batches, and it will not be too long before the development work is fully completed. General helicopters will simplify the aircraft carrier aircraft model, which is an extremely convenient task for maintenance of carrier aircraft. The attendance rate can also be improved.


In fact, the 002 aircraft carrier laid a keel as early as in 2013, a total of 6 years. It has been completed in three years from scratch. From drawing to reality, this speed is fast. From the side can also be seen, the difficulty of the construction of 002 aircraft carrier. The Liaoning number comes with drawings, but there are 40 tons of drawings. 002 In fact, the drawings can be started as soon as they get the drawings, but it is clear that they did not intend to build sister ships of the Varyag and the Kuznetsov at the beginning. The design of the aircraft carrier is rather difficult, and the 002 design that lasted for three years is an example. However, China finally obtained a self-produced aircraft carrier.


This time, the 002 test aircraft carrier's own power and navigation performance. In fact, a series of assistance measures such as blocking cables have not yet been seen. In the United States, where the aircraft carrier technology is quite mature, the “Ford” also waited three months after the first trial flight before the carrier-based fighter aircraft took off and landed. To see the 002's first carrier-based fighter aircraft take off and landing, but also wait for a long time. (Author's signature: Hao Han Defense)


By the time they are done, the older radars would had been replace with the same as new carrier's version.
 

tun_dr_m

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武警 militarized mata assaulted hijacked flight in a drill, look at their equipments! World's best!

http://slide.mil.news.sina.com.cn/l/slide_8_199_64370.html#p=1

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“快速封控,抵近侦察……”初夏的一天,一场反劫机演练在武警四川省总队某支队训练场拉开战幕。该支队反劫机中队官兵在中队长于参的指挥下,周密部署、迅速行动,与“恐怖分子”斗智斗勇。最终,中队官兵成功制伏“恐怖分子”,“人质”全部获救。对于该中队官兵来说,这样的演练并不陌生。他们常年担负西南地区多个机场的地面反劫机任务,早已把“随时能出动、随时为打赢”的意识刻在脑海里。(中国军网/穆可双 姜永安 杨 剑 洪福乐)


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2002年,改建反劫机中队之初,面对全新使命任务,官兵们不等不靠,刻苦钻研,攻克了一个个训练难题,破解了一个个制约战斗力提升的瓶颈,建立起“反恐作战信息数据库”,探索出多种战法训法,为中队开展实战化反劫机训练夯实了基础。


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战场上敢于以命相搏,源于训练场上的千锤百炼。为练就过硬的实战本领,无论刮风下雨,还是严寒酷暑,官兵在高强度训练中挑战生理和心理极限;为练就机舱作战一枪毙敌硬功,中队建起模拟机舱实弹射击训练场地



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设置各种复杂战术情况,让官兵开展贴近实战的射击训练……一次次超极限训练,一场场近似实战的对抗演练,锤炼了官兵能打胜仗的钢筋铁骨,培塑出勇猛顽强的血性胆气。铸剑千日,亮剑必胜。16年来,一茬茬官兵传承红色基因,苦练克敌制胜硬功


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锻造敢打硬仗的反恐作战尖刀利刃。该中队在各类重大比武竞赛中5次斩获团体冠军,多次圆满完成应急处突、抢险救灾等急难险重任务,13次被总队评为基层建设标兵中队。如今,他们牢记使命,不负重托,正以昂扬的姿态迈向新征程。


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“Quickly seal and control, arrived close to the reconnaissance...” On the first summer day, an anti-hijacking exercise was held in the training ground of a detachment of the Sichuan Provincial Armed Police Corps. The squadron’s anti-hijacking squadron’s officers and soldiers under the command of the squadron commander, Senshen, were carefully deployed and acted swiftly to fight wits with “terrorists”. In the end, the officers and men of the Squadron succeeded in subduing the "terrorist" and all the "hostages" were rescued. For the squadron officers and men, such a drill is not unfamiliar. They have been tasked with the anti-hijacking of ground planes at various airports in the southwest region for many years, and they have already engraved in their minds the consciousness of “moving at any time and winning at any time”. (China Military Net/Mu Keshuang Jiang Yong'an Yang Jian Hong Fule)


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In the beginning of the rebuilding of the anti-hijacking machine squadron in 2002, the officers and men did not rely on it and worked diligently to overcome all the training difficulties in the face of a new mission. They cracked the bottlenecks that constrained the improvement of combat effectiveness, and established an "anti-terrorist combat information database. "Exploring a variety of methods of training in the warfare methods has laid a solid foundation for the Squadron to carry out practical combat anti-hijacking training."


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On the battlefield, you dare to fight with your life, which stems from the rigors of the training field. In order to develop strong practical skills, officers and soldiers challenge physiological and psychological limits in high-intensity training, regardless of whether it is rain or rain, or severe cold and heat. In order to train a single shot against the hard work of the cabin, the squadron built a mock-to-fire simulation training room.



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Set up a variety of complex tactical situations to allow officers and soldiers to carry out close-to-real-time shooting exercises. Each time they exceed the extreme limit training. One field is similar to actual combat confrontation drills. They temper the steel and steel bones that officers and soldiers can use to win victories, and cultivate plasticity to be brave and fierce. courage. Swords for a thousand days, the sword will win. In the past 16 years, a group of officers and soldiers inherited the red genes and practiced hard to defeat the enemy.


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Forging dare to fight the tough battle of anti-terrorism. The squadron won team championships five times in various major contests, successfully completing emergency, fatal and dangerous tasks such as sudden emergency rescue and disaster relief on multiple occasions, and was rated as the basic construction model squadron 13 times by the corps. Today, they keep in mind the mission, live up to their trust, and are moving toward a new journey with a high-profile attitude.
 

eatshitndie

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out at sea for 6.9 days and in port for servicing, maintenance, and repairs for 6.9 weeks. that’s why prc need stationary bases in south china sea. they know their carriers can do jackshit in a real war.
 

Leongsam

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I've been saying this from day one!!!

All this chink crap won't last through one battle let alone a war.
 

PretenderSam

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I've been saying this from day two!!!

All this chink crap won't last through one exercise let alone one engagement with the enemy .
 

Ba_Ah

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Chinese weapons are always know globally for being reliable and low cost and kills effectively in every tough wars. Killed many Ang Mohs.

From Korean wars to Vietnam to Middle East.

Black Hawk Down in Somalia. All Chinese AK-47 & RPGs. Shot down Black Hawks and sent GIs to body bags.

China is toying their aircraft carrier and developing and testing many new advanced technologies which Ang Moh are never going to be able to Catch up. When they used their carrier for few months there is already new version toys to upgrade. It is kind of alike the car workshop hobbyists everyday do nothing but knocking and welding and rigging their cars in workshop for fun. They are doing modifications and upgrading. Not that their cars broke down. They are too free too rich and to fancy. Kept fucking with cars more than woman CBs.



 
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frenchbriefs

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not radar, i got news from 长江一号 they fitting a skygate neutrino jumper design to entire hyperspace and ability to reach venus in mach 12 speed.

Mach 12 speed only 12 times the speed of sound....warp speed 9 would be the fastest hyperdrive speed at 4200c per sec.
 

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So the news came up that there is a huge set of Enhancement / Modification / Upgrading / new Prototype Installation for Test scheduled on Liao Ning that is why it is scheduled for months to be worked on at the dock yard.

The most major modification is to install a set of Electrical Plane Launching Catapult which this aim is to confirm it's use at the sea, and the same Catapult is new being installed in the latest under construction #003 Giant Carrier Bigger than Gerald Ford of US Navy. It will be world's largest nuke powered carrier. Actually there is #004 also being constructed at the same time. Both #003 & 3004 are now in hundreds of divided blocks being constructed before these blocks can be finally assembled into carrier. Electric Catapult will be used in #003 & #004, both are likely to be nuke power but different version of designs. Electrical Plane Launching Catapult testing unit had been tested thousand times on a land-base mock-up carrier to launch J-15 and other model planes to also train pilots for taking off with launch catapult.

The idea of such catapults are to let heavier loaded planes take off from shorter runways. But it needs a complex system on board carrier using carrier's energy sources to do so.

Hence these system are subjected to combat damages and malfunction. I am of the view that Independent Disposable Booster Rockets mounted below wings or tails planes should be better, and can be used even if carrier power system was damaged, carrier was sinking, combat destruction or accidental, plane can pick people and flee without depending on complex launching mechanisms. More over launching catapult system needs a team of operators, what if they had been injured or killed in wars? Disposable Booster Rockets can be quickly mounted as long as there is still stocks. Out of stock? A helicopter trip can resupply hundreds of these rockets. Very robust and reliable solution.


http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/jssd/2018-06-12/doc-ihcufqih5051486.shtml

辽宁舰返厂有哪些工作:或为这款重要装备定型做试验
辽宁舰返厂有哪些工作:或为这款重要装备定型做试验

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  辽宁号航母返回大连造厂

  外界正在传辽宁号航母返回大连造厂并非中修,可能是要改装弹射器,为003和004航母做弹射定型试验。

  辽宁号改为弹射型试验舰,肯定会有人不信,总之太多的中国军事装备发展之初总是有人不信,结果全部变成现实。当初没人相信中国会造出隐形战机,结果成飞硬是制造出让国人大展志气的歼20,并且批量列装部队了。

  官方不止一次强调过,辽宁号是科研试验舰,而总是有人幻想辽宁号载满歼-15-去遨游世界震慑宵小,一艘试验舰这么累行吗?繁重的训练试验任务已经够多了!你看辽宁号下水以来一年出海多少次,试验强度非常大。现在连夜间起降也突破解决了,辽宁号的第一批科学试验已经大功告成,现在只差第二轮弹射试验训练了!

  现在诸多消息都显示辽宁号要装弹射器,很多人不信,看看以前的诸多事实吧,有人说当初瓦良格设计就这样,没法改工程太大,结果中国不但把它改出来了,而且连发动机一并解决了,奇迹!不要用陈旧的眼光再看待中国的军事发展,中国经常强调的“跨越式发展”才是真理!

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  辽宁号已预留了可能的未来弹射器空间

  辽宁号已预留了可能的未来弹射器空间,百分之百。据报道,当初瓦良格是为弹弓准备的,库兹涅佐夫不是。库兹涅佐夫当初要拥有自己的AShM能力,所以他们的整个甲板前面保留的16个巨大的VLS管。

  尼古拉耶夫造船厂设计局局长维尼。巴比奇曾经说过,瓦良格甲板下留有一个弹射器空间。

  如果当时有技术可用,瓦良格原计划在发生重大维修时加装弹射器。滑跃起飞只是一个临时解决方案,因为苏联人最初不想为弹射技术筹集必要的资金和时间。

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  辽宁号已预留了可能的未来弹射器空间

  在6艘航母计划的宏伟蓝图中,中国希望自己的远征舰队全部是弹射型航空母舰组成。滑跃型航母主要担任全职训练舰和第一岛链中的作战舰。

  所以对中国海军航母未来数量预测是这样的:

  6艘弹射型航空母舰+2艘现有滑跃型航母,共计8艘。

  辽宁号改装可能直接上电磁弹射

  无论需要进行多大程度的修改,转换002甚至辽宁号到弹射型的航母只需要花费一小部分时间来构建。

  如果与美国的整体战略明朗,在升级和改装1年之后,另有2艘弹射型航母运营将比等待2 - 3年打造新航母更具有现实意义。特别是一旦海军弹射装备上线,无论哪种设计最终都会采用,未来003和004肯定要上弹射器。

  所以这种升级可能比人们想象的要快。在前两艘弹射航母投入运营后,第二组航母(几乎可以肯定是核动力全电弹射,类似于福特号)将被交付,这将是中国海军的一段美好时光。

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  辽宁号返厂

  来自辽宁号和002航母的机组人员可以通过批量转移到新的航母上,以便在尽可能短的时间内使核动力航母形成战斗力。

  现在理想情况下,按部就班是一种选择,升级到弹射型航母会很有意义。今天和未来的中国与80年代和90年代的中国不一样,中国现有的资金和技术完全可以负提得起逐步淘汰传统设备。

  航母的使用寿命为50年以上,辽宁号可以服役到2060年,002航母可以服役到2070年!所以辽宁号铁定要上弹射器才跟得上时代的发展,而且必须是电弹。(作者署名:蜀中行讲武堂 )


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Liaoning aircraft carrier returns to Dalian factory

The outside world is transmitting the Liaoning aircraft carrier's return to Dalian to build a factory that is not a mid-career. It may be necessary to modify the catapult to make ejection type tests for the 003 and 004 carriers.

If Liaoning is changed to a catapult-type test ship, there will certainly be people who do not believe it. In short, at the beginning of the development of too many Chinese military equipment, there will always be people who do not believe it, and all the results will become reality. At first, no one believed that China would create stealth fighter jets. As a result, it became a trick to create a ambition for the Chinese people to show their ambitions, and set up troops in batches.

The government has emphasized more than once that the Liaoning No. is a scientific research test ship, but there are always people who imagine that the Liaoning No. 1 station carries a full-scale 歼 -15- to travel around the world to shock the world. Is a test ship so tiring? Heavy training test tasks have enough! You see how many times a year has passed since the waters of Liaoning were launched. The test intensity is very high. Even with the arrival and landing at night, breakthroughs have also been resolved. The first batch of scientific tests of the Liaoning Province have been successfully completed, and now only the second round of catapult trial training is available!

A lot of news now shows that Liaoning has to install catapults. Many people do not believe it. Look at the many previous facts. Some people say that Varyag was designed in such a way that he could not change the project too much. As a result, China not only changed it, but also changed it. And even with the engine solved, miracles! Do not look at China’s military development with an old-looking vision. The “leaping development” that China often emphasizes is the truth!

Liaoning has reserved possible future catapult space

Liaoning has reserved a possible future catapult space, 100%. According to reports, Varyag was originally prepared for the slingshot, and Kuznetsov was not. Kuznetsov had to have his own AShM abilities, so they kept 16 huge VLS pipes in front of their entire deck.

Nikolayev Shipyard Design Director Vini. Babic once said that there was a catapult space under Varyag's deck.

If technology was available at the time, Varyag originally planned to install catapults during major repairs. Skip take-off is only a temporary solution, because the Soviets initially did not want to raise the necessary funds and time for catapulting technology.

Liaoning has reserved possible future catapult space

In the grand blueprint of the six aircraft carrier plans, China hopes that its expeditionary fleet will be composed of catapult-type aircraft carriers. The gliding aircraft carrier is mainly used as a full-time training ship and a combat ship in the first island chain.

So the forecast for the future number of Chinese navy carriers is this:

Six catapult-type aircraft carriers + two existing skid-type aircraft carriers, a total of eight.

Liaoning conversion may directly electromagnetic ejection

Regardless of the degree of modification required, the conversion of the 002 or even Liaoning to the catapult-type aircraft carrier took only a fraction of the time to build.

If the overall strategy with the United States is clear, after another year of upgrading and refitting, the operation of another two catapult-type aircraft carriers will be more realistic than waiting for 2-3 years to build a new aircraft carrier. In particular, once the naval ejection equipment is put on the line, no matter what kind of design will eventually be used, the future 003 and 004 will definitely be catapulted.

So this kind of upgrade may be faster than people think. After the first two catapult carriers were put into operation, the second group of aircraft carriers (almost certainly nuclear-powered all-electric catapults, similar to the Ford) will be delivered, which will be a good time for the Chinese Navy.

Liaoning plant returned

The crew members from the Liaoning and 002 carriers can be transferred to new aircraft carriers in batches to make the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier capable of fighting in as short a time as possible.

Ideally, step by step is a choice, and upgrading to a catapult-type aircraft carrier will make sense. China today and in the future is not the same as China in the 1980s and 1990s. China’s existing capital and technology can fully afford to phase out traditional equipment.

The service life of an aircraft carrier is more than 50 years, and the Liaoning number can be serviced until 2060. The 002 aircraft carrier can serve until 2070! Therefore, the Liaoning No. 1 must be able to keep up with catapults to keep up with the development of the times, and it must be an electric bullet. (Author's signature: Sui Zhonghang speaks Wu Tang)
 

congo9

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Seems That PRC has so much money to spend.
They can spend their time modifying, refitting and change their accessories just like car lovers.
 

virus

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Mach 12 speed only 12 times the speed of sound....warp speed 9 would be the fastest hyperdrive speed at 4200c per sec.

hv to fly at mach speed so the fastest cam can record, else no publicity if just zoom and poot. no sight no sound.
 

kryonlight

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Why you think Trump cancelled wargames?

Because the chink emperor threatened Kim Jong Un. Kim wants to escape the clutches of China, open up to the world and reunite with the south. He doesn't give a shit about the war games. If he doesn't get what China wants from Trump, his only economic lifeline from China will be cut. The war game cancellation was never stated in the agreement.
 
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