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Chitchat Chemotherapy: a friend just want for it......

Wunderfool

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Good business opportunity! A retreat for cancer patients with sessions conducted by this miracle healer. $50k per week, cheap or not?
Miracles do happen, but it doesn't happen always. Precisely because it is a rare happening, it is called a miracle .

Take faith healing with a pinch of salt. If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't , it is just that. That 's the facts of life.
 

flatearther

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The best defense against cancer is "good genes".
I agree. :wink:

But just like "fat genes" have to be activated by an unhealthy diet and lack of exercise before such a person can become fat (and I think you will agree with me on this because you've posted about this issue before), people with "cancer genes" can only contract cancer if those "cancer genes" are activated by an unhealthy diet, mainly meat and sugar:

Sugar Doesn't Just Feed Cancer, It Causes Cancer - Cancer Defeated Newsletter #77
cancerdefeated.com/newsletters/Sugar-feeds-cancer-and-causes-cancer.html


Two of my friends are dying of cancer. They've cut out all sugar, fat, meat etc.
In their cases, it's probably too late even if they become vegans because their "cancer genes" are probably very strong and their cancer is probably already in the final stages.
 
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johnny333

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All these alternative therapies fall under the same category as Rony Tan.

http://www.lighthouse.org.sg/miracle-testimonies.asp


Have to disagree with you because I know someone with breast cancer who recovered by improving their diet & taking various supplements like fucoidan, vitamin, ...etc . The cancer area dried up & reduced in size, all without chemo.

I wouldn't recommend anyone do chemo until they have tried the alternative strategie because chemo weakens the body making it harder for alternative strategies to work.

No one can give a 100% guarantee that these alternative cures will work. The same can be said for chemo. Some doctors will even tell you that chemo does not work:eek: I guess many factors are involved such as the stages of cancer, genetics, health habbits,.. etc
 

scroobal

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Only a small % have genes that predisposes them to cancer. The vast majority are exposure to known carcinogens - tobacco, sunlight, certain chemicals, cured meat etc. The mystery is how much is too bad especially diet.

There is also no scientific evidence to suggest that eating organic food, taking supplements or following a specific diet will prevent cancer.

Except for the gene related cases which are small in numbers, the rest have to avoid known carcinogens, the known risk factors and look for luck.


The best defense against cancer is "good genes". Nothing else such as diet, lifestyle, religion etc makes a scrap of difference.
 

johnny333

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go to cancertutor.com, cancerdecisions.com................in S'pore, a lot of supplements not available..........try below.............

The blood of vegans had 8x the stopping power when it comes to cancer cell growth.

Over 700 hospitals and clinics in Japan use a multi-mushroom formula known as AHCC. Another combo is RM-10 Ultra - Studies show it increases levels of immune cells that kill cancer cells by up to 200%, macrophage cells (which swallow cancer cells whole) by 100% and natural killer (NK) cells up to 900%. Agaricus Blazei Murill, or the ABM mushroom - wipe out Ehrlich's ascites carcinoma, sigmoid colonic cancer, ovarian cancer, breast cancer, lung cancer, and liver cancer as well as tumours - studies in Japan show ABM to be 80% more effective than world's #1 cancer drug, PSK.

Dried/cooked ginger contains 6-shogaol - a compound 10,000X more effective than chemo in targeting cancer stem cells that are the root of many cancers as they can self renew, are capable of continuous differentiation, are resistant to chemo, and are capable of creating new tumor colonies.

Oleander extract - Rose Laurel OPC Plus, is sold by Utopia Silver Supplement company - Dosage: 5-25 ml of extract 3 times daily or 3-9 capsules daily. N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) is an absolutely essential supplement to use with oleander.

Baking soda increases the pH of acidic tumors and inhibit metastasis without upsetting pH of the blood and healthy tissues. Dr. Julian Whitaker's protocol uses 12 g of baking soda in 2 cups water with maple syrup, molasses or honey, sip it over an hour and repeat 3x a day. Dr. Sircus documented one patient used baking soda and blackstrap molasses for prostate cancer that metastasized to his bones, with 2 teaspoons each of baking soda and molasses twice daily. By the 10th day, his pH had risen to 8.5 and his PSA (prostate-specific antigen, the protein that determine severity of prostate cancer) level was down from 22.3 to 0.1.


can try Fucoidan too..................Fucoidan and NAC (read above) can be bought at iherb (use my code LOH347 for discount)


My relative who had breast cancer was using a made in Japan fucoidan which sold for $300 a bottle. You have to understand japanese to read the japanese wording on the bottle.

Can't tell how effective it was because she was taking many, many different things to combat the cancer e.g. AHCC, NAC, cruciferous vegetable supplements, DIM, indole3, .... One or more of it worked because the cancer shrunk & disappeared :smile:
 

SNTCK

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sam, why there is no like button huh?
I want to click like

Well , this is not suggestion to lifeafter41 Friend. It is my own experience.

I suggest his Friend to go for natural foods therapy.
No meat, no sugar. Just take organic foods .

My auntie no take meat and just purely vegetable and also bean. Heard that multi grain rice is good.

Ask your Friend to avoid meat and sugar.

i think you and boss owe me an apology.
well, i do give good suggestion to lifeafter41 friend.

please ohh. it is boss give nonsense reply to serious topic.
 

kkbutterfly

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chemo in tcm is deem as 'extremely heaty" to the extend your whole mouth will be covered with ulcers and urine that is as dark as martell color.
 

johnny333

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A friend just went for his first chemotherapy session, told me went on drips, but was very slow, took 6 hours just to finish one session.

Heard from him the cancer he got is those aggressive type, can't recall what was it but understand it has spread to other areas, I believe it's bone and another area.

Anyway, the doctors recommend him to go for this session and see how the treatment goes.......
Was wondering if there is any other treatment that might be available if chemotherapy does not do its job or he do not respond to this treatment.....


If your friend needs medical guidance from a doctor who believes in alternative solutions, I can recommend a doctor in JB. This is the doctor which I went to for chelation & ECCP treatment for my heart problems.

With cancer being so common he's diversifying :smile: Let me know if your friends wants to meet him & talk to him let me know & I'll get the address of the clinic.
 

SNTCK

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If your friend needs medical guidance from a doctor who believes in alternative solutions, I can recommend a doctor in JB. This is the doctor which I went to for chelation & ECCP treatment for my heart problems.

With cancer being so common he's diversifying :smile: Let me know if your friends wants to meet him & talk to him let me know & I'll get the address of the clinic.

PM me, i am interested. thanks. if kidney issue then he also can deal with?
 

lifeafter41

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If your friend needs medical guidance from a doctor who believes in alternative solutions, I can recommend a doctor in JB. This is the doctor which I went to for chelation & ECCP treatment for my heart problems.

With cancer being so common he's diversifying :smile: Let me know if your friends wants to meet him & talk to him let me know & I'll get the address of the clinic.

Hi johnny333, thanks!!
Do PM me.
Will pass him the info.
 

lifeafter41

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lifeafter41, your friend which stage?

What I know was that the cancer original was only at one area, it was subsequently removed surgical. Cancer marker check, no signs, but after a month later, went to do scanning, it was found in bone and some other areas.

Understand from what I heard, it's considered under stage 4, but I am not so sure what's the definition in his case, whether stage 2 or ??
 

SNTCK

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What I know was that the cancer original was only at one area, it was subsequently removed surgical. Cancer marker check, no signs, but after a month later, went to do scanning, it was found in bone and some other areas.

Understand from what I heard, it's considered under stage 4, but I am not so sure what's the definition in his case, whether stage 2 or ??

if spread to bone then a bit hard.
usually it is stage 4 liao if spread to bone. i guess your friend initially diagnosed as prostate cancer but then spread to bone.

did the bone check?
 

bodycells

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http://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/chemo-kills-up-to-50-percent-of-patients-in-some-hospitals/

Chemo kills up to 50% of cancer patients in some hospitals

Patients should be warned about the dangers of chemotherapy after new research published in The Lancet Oncology showed that chemo kills up to 50% of cancer patients in some hospitals.

For the first time researchers looked at the numbers of cancer patients who died within 30 days of starting chemotherapy, which indicates that the medication is the cause of death, rather than the cancer.

Almost 1,400 patients with either breast or lung cancer died in England in 2014 within a month of being given chemotherapy, roughly 8.4% of lung cancer patients, and 2.4% of breast cancer patients.

In some hospitals the figure was far higher. In Milton Keynes the death rate for lung cancer treatment was 50.9%, although it was based on a very small number of patients.

Deaths of lung cancer patients from chemotherapy were also far higher than the national average in Blackpool, Coventry, Derby, South Tyneside and Surrey and Sussex, according to the research.

At Lancashire Teaching Hospitals the 30 day mortality rate was 28% for palliative chemotherapy for lung cancer.

Palliative treatments are given to “extend life” or “improve quality of life”–two highly debatable claims considering that the few weeks or months of extra life that a patient might get usually just involves extra suffering.

What’s worse is that many patients getting palliative care think they are getting curative treatments

Four years ago, I reported on an American study, which found that at least two-thirds of patients with terminal cancer believed they were getting potentially curative chemotherapy, even though the treatment was only palliative, because their doctors didn’t explain the difference.


The British study looked at more than 23,000 women with breast cancer and nearly 10,000 men with non-small cell lung cancer who underwent chemotherapy in 2014. Of those treated 1,383 died within 30 days.

The researchers also found that there were significant differences in survival for older people and those in poorer health. They advised doctors to be more careful in selecting patients for treatment where it could do more harm than good.

According to the authors of the study by Public Health England and Cancer Research UK, “patients dying within 30 days after beginning treatment [with chemotherapy] are unlikely to have gained the survival or palliative benefits of the treatment, and in view of the side-effects sometimes caused … are more likely to have suffered harm”.
“I think it’s important to make patients aware that there are potentially life threatening downsides to chemotherapy. And doctors should be more careful about who they treat with chemotherapy.”
-Professor David Dodwell, Institute of Oncology, St James Hospital, Leeds, UK.

Here’s a surprising statement from one of the study’s authors, Dr. Jem Rashbass:
“The easiest way not to kill your patients with chemotherapy is not to give it to anyone,
and that is clearly wrong.”

Ahhhh! That quote started off so well, but then after the comma it took a horrible turn.

Friends, that statement pretty much sums up the fully indoctrinated (ahem, brainwashed) cancer industry mentality. They truly believe it is wrong not to give cancer patients chemotherapy, even when their research shows that chemo kills.
 

Semaj2357

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What I know was that the cancer original was only at one area, it was subsequently removed surgical. Cancer marker check, no signs, but after a month later, went to do scanning, it was found in bone and some other areas.

Understand from what I heard, it's considered under stage 4, but I am not so sure what's the definition in his case, whether stage 2 or ??
any cancer that spreads is considered stage 4.
if spread to bone then a bit hard.
usually it is stage 4 liao if spread to bone. i guess your friend initially diagnosed as prostate cancer but then spread to bone.did the bone check?
the cancer attacks the soft tissues first eg kidneys, liver etc and then the bones.....be prepared for the worst.
 

johnny333

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It's obvious there are people out there who have cancer or know people with cancer. So I will put the contact information in this thread. Something else that is different in Malaysia vs Spore is that those doctors practicing alternative medicine are not harassed to the same extent as the doctors in Spore.

The clinic is located in Skudai http://www.impianemasmedicalcentre.com/
It's just down the road from Kolej Universiti Selatan.

If you know people having heart problems or stroke, they do offer IV Chelation, EECP, & have a hyperbaric chamber. They have diversified into cancer treatments but I am not as familiar to the type of treatments being offered as my problem was with the heart & not cancer.
 

johnny333

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Hi johnny333, thanks!!
Do PM me.
Will pass him the info.

He should get the book by Charlotte Gerson who is continuing the work of her father who started the Gerson Therapy. https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Gers...qid=1472835246&sr=1-2&keywords=gerson+therapy

The Gerson Therapy is the outcome of years of experience treating patients with all kinds of chronic problems like cancer, heart problems, etc.
You can also watch charlotte Gerson in may youtube videos explaining her father's philosophy.

This protocol popularised juicing as a treatment. I got my copy of the book from Nature's Glory which is a good place to look for organic produce.
http://www.natures-glory.com/
 

Leongsam

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Only a small % have genes that predisposes them to cancer. The vast majority are exposure to known carcinogens - tobacco, sunlight, certain chemicals, cured meat etc. The mystery is how much is too bad especially diet.

There is also no scientific evidence to suggest that eating organic food, taking supplements or following a specific diet will prevent cancer.

Except for the gene related cases which are small in numbers, the rest have to avoid known carcinogens, the known risk factors and look for luck.

You misunderstood. I'm not talking about being predisposed to cancer. Good genes refers to those who can smoke 2 packs a day for 50 years and still be hale and hearty.

My 93 year old neighbor is one such person. He's had all sorts of growths removed over the years and not a single one has been malignant. He worked with asbestos when he was young and smoked like a chimney till diagnosed with COPD a few years ago.

He's been bombarded with carcinogens from all angles and still no cancer.
 
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