LTC also kena this duty
http://origin-www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/vigil-guards-for-mr-lee/1748380.html
http://origin-www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/vigil-guards-for-mr-lee/1748380.html
-
IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here. The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.
LTC also kena this duty
- Thread starter winnipegjets
- Start date
As reflected in the photo on that url, that officer with a "silver" pip and a crest is probably from the SPF, which means he is a DSP (Deputy Superintendent of Police).
As we scroll down, there is a SAF officer with three bars, which means he is a Captain. It looks like he has served for at least ten years, as reflected by the two conduct medals. During my days (late 1970's), some of us were commissioned after 9.5 months, whereas for those of us who went through BMT, School of Infantry Section Leaders (as it was then known), then posted to a battalion, return to OCS in SAFTI, we were commissioned after about 16 months of NS (to serve another 14 months before ROD or ORD). Some of us were promoted to LTA (Lieutenant, and we had 2 pips in the old days, not 2 bars) after 24 months, and almost all after 28 months. If one signs on as a regular, and as a non SAFOS, it is very likely that he will be promoted to Captain after about 5 to 6 years in service. I believe that a SAFOS will be promoted to Captain, within one to two years of graduation from university, if not sooner. There are very very few SAFOS who were not promoted to CPT within 5 years, and the SAFOS were on a different pay scale compared to us NSF or non SAFOS officers.
As we scroll down, there is a SAF officer with three bars, which means he is a Captain. It looks like he has served for at least ten years, as reflected by the two conduct medals. During my days (late 1970's), some of us were commissioned after 9.5 months, whereas for those of us who went through BMT, School of Infantry Section Leaders (as it was then known), then posted to a battalion, return to OCS in SAFTI, we were commissioned after about 16 months of NS (to serve another 14 months before ROD or ORD). Some of us were promoted to LTA (Lieutenant, and we had 2 pips in the old days, not 2 bars) after 24 months, and almost all after 28 months. If one signs on as a regular, and as a non SAFOS, it is very likely that he will be promoted to Captain after about 5 to 6 years in service. I believe that a SAFOS will be promoted to Captain, within one to two years of graduation from university, if not sooner. There are very very few SAFOS who were not promoted to CPT within 5 years, and the SAFOS were on a different pay scale compared to us NSF or non SAFOS officers.
Last edited:
The first five officers who performed their duty as Vigil Guards, were the Chief of Defence Staff, COA, CNV, CAF, and a BG.
I believe that the Commissioner of Police also led a team of very senior SPF officers.
I am surprised that the PMO or the State Funeral Committee did not restrict the Vigil Guards to those of LTC and above, and DSP and above, as there are definitely more than 60 SAF officers at LTC and higher, as well as more than 60 SPF officers who are at DSP and higher.
Perhaps, they wish to have a few Majors and Captains, as well as a few ASP and DSP.
I believe that the Commissioner of Police also led a team of very senior SPF officers.
I am surprised that the PMO or the State Funeral Committee did not restrict the Vigil Guards to those of LTC and above, and DSP and above, as there are definitely more than 60 SAF officers at LTC and higher, as well as more than 60 SPF officers who are at DSP and higher.
Perhaps, they wish to have a few Majors and Captains, as well as a few ASP and DSP.
Thank you for correction and enlightenment, Charlie.
What is the big deal. If I am not mistaken the Comm of Police and Chief of Def report to their respective Perm Sec. In reality, they are only dy sec in the adminstrative service.
I think now safos entry level start off with captain rank already
I did not indicate that it is or it was a big deal.
It is just an event or rather a significant event in Singapore.
Are you sure they are Captains and not Military experts.
Pardon me, I have been a non-resident for decades, and have not kept up to date.
Thank you.
By the way, you may already know, that in the SPF, one crest is an ASP (Assistant Superintendent of Police), one pip and one crest is a DSP, and two pips and one crest is a Superintendent of Police.
Whereas in the SAF, one crest (more affectionately known as "crab") is a Major, two crests (in the old days, it was one pip and one crest) is a LTC, and three crests (in the old days, two pips and one crest) is a COL or Colonel.
That officer with a GUARDS tab and it looks like a Guards beret, and if I recall correctly, the article also mentioned a Captain (with a Malay) name.
I believe that Military Experts have a different "rank" or bar structure.
I am not as knowledgeable as most of you, because i am unfamiliar with the Military Expert Scheme.
Ok...there are Military Experts as seen in earlier reports. ME5 or so above. Same as Major/LTC rank.
The ME system is weird and in my view unecessary
I believe that I have seen a few Military Experts who stood as Vigil Guards, as reflected photos from the other day (Toronto Eastern Daylight Savings Time is 12 hours behind Singapore).
because privates aren't PSC scholars
Unable to tell whether or not all of those who stood as Vigil Guards were scholars.
I speculate that there must a few who are non scholar officers.
of course you can't tell. But some of them will definitely be. Remember CCS and Mrs Lee?
Agree.
The first team or set of vigil guards were full of scholars: LG Ng, MG Perry Lim, Rear Admiral who is the CNV, and one BG.
the point is is it normal to get your majors and colonels to guard the coffin 24/7 ? what about other countries ?
Similar threads
