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Other countries say must hire local, native citizens first, Why Sinkapore cannot?

GoldenPeriod

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In Europe:
France's membership in the European Union adds another twist to this: France gives first priority for jobs to French citizens, then to EU citizens, and then to the rest of the world. In order for, say, an American to get a job in France, s/he essentially has to prove that s/he is more qualified than anyone in the European Union.

The employer, not the individual, files the work permit application, and before a permit is granted, the employer must prove that no European Union citizen is able to do the job.

http://www.workpermit.com/belgium/employer_work_permits.htm

In USA:

in order for an employer to hire someone under this type of visa, they must first be able to prove that no qualified U.S. workers are able (or willing) to do the work in question -- no small feat in today's economy. The employer has to first publicly advertise the position in a United States newspaper and make every effort to first hire a U.S. worker before recruiting a foreign national.

http://www.h1base.com/visa/work/h1basereviewsworkvisaoptions/ref/1697/

But government say nono , hire foreigners first and make all natives serve National Slavery? Uniquely Singaporean.
 

Timerty

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Singapore is already going to implement new laws this year for employers to hire locals first, but this suah ku Amy Khor blur sotong and trying to act like she represent MOM.

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/firms-must-now-post-job-listings-singaporeans-mom-site

"SINGAPORE — Employers will have to advertise job vacancies on a new government jobs bank for at least 14 days before they apply to hire an Employment Pass (EP) holder, starting from Aug 1 next year.

The new rule, applicable to jobs paying up to S$12,000 a month, is aimed at making firms consider Singaporeans fairly for a job, said the Ministry of Manpower (MOM).

Acting Manpower Minister Tan Chuan-Jin said: “These changes are part of a broader effort to ensure that good jobs continue to be created for Singaporeans."
 

laksaboy

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LOL! Tell that to the govt public sector, which is infested with foreigners. :rolleyes:

Look, there's no problem with hiring talented foreigners to fulfill a pertinent need of any organization. However, when even the public sector has so many foreigners, it tells me that either the education system is not very good in producing skilled, employable local workers, or the govt is steeped in hypocrisy.
 

GoldenPeriod

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Singapore is already going to implement new laws this year for employers to hire locals first, but this suah ku Amy Khor blur sotong and trying to act like she represent MOM.

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/firms-must-now-post-job-listings-singaporeans-mom-site

"SINGAPORE — Employers will have to advertise job vacancies on a new government jobs bank for at least 14 days before they apply to hire an Employment Pass (EP) holder, starting from Aug 1 next year.

The new rule, applicable to jobs paying up to S$12,000 a month, is aimed at making firms consider Singaporeans fairly for a job, said the Ministry of Manpower (MOM).

Acting Manpower Minister Tan Chuan-Jin said: “These changes are part of a broader effort to ensure that good jobs continue to be created for Singaporeans."

That is not the same as in the USA and EU. Merely advertising in a job bank under the FCF does not mean hire locals first. Just like in the USA/EU, legislation should be enacted as such: employers must prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that no native citizen can do the job before it hires a foreigner.
 

Timerty

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LOL! Tell that to the govt public sector, which is infested with foreigners. :rolleyes:

Look, there's no problem with hiring talented foreigners to fulfill a pertinent need of any organization. However, when even the public sector has so many foreigners, it tells me that either the education system is not very good in producing skilled, employable local workers, or the govt is steeped in hypocrisy.

Maybe its because people don't want to have anything to do with the PAP-run public sector? When LHL or Ho Ching visit the department, they might have to kotow to them 3 times to pay respect.
 

yellowarse

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That is not the same as in the USA and EU. Merely advertising in a job bank under the FCF does not mean hire locals first. Just like in the USA/EU, legislation should be enacted as such: employers must prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that no native citizen can do the job before it hires a foreigner.

Legislation is the only way to ensure that locals come first. And it's not just the USA or EU; Australia is headed in the same direction:

457 Visa Employer Requirements

An employer must be approved as a sponsor before being able to recruit overseas workers under the 457 work visa. To be approved as a sponsor, an employer must be an Australian business that operates within Australia or an overseas business bringing in overseas employees for the purpose of setting up a business within Australia. Both types of businesses must attest that they have a demonstrated commitment to employing local labour and undertake non-discriminatory employment practices.

Business must not have anything adverse on their record pertaining to the business or anyone associated with the business.

Employers must also show a commitment to meeting Australia's requirements for training Australian workers.
 

Timerty

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That is not the same as in the USA and EU. Merely advertising in a job bank under the FCF does not mean hire locals first. Just like in the USA/EU, legislation should be enacted as such: employers must prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that no native citizen can do the job before it hires a foreigner.

Singapore is quite a 'special' case as many locals are not very intelligent and knowledgeable for the high-demanding jobs(after schooling in the North Korean style public schools and NS) so have to give some chance to hire some foreigners to make up.

If the Singapore government really want to help workers get more qualified and skilled for jobs, they must abolish the NS and stop schools from being so restrictive in how they teach children. Just look at how international schools are run and the freedom they have to be unique and creative. Stephanie Koh has complained about how the creativity is so poor in Singapore.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/iC4fGFdGj9I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
 

bakkuttay

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In malaysia, every shop there is at least a local, ie a malay. They speak chinese like chinese too.
 

Boliao

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Maybe its because people don't want to have anything to do with the PAP-run public sector? When LHL or Ho Ching visit the department, they might have to kotow to them 3 times to pay respect.

My company just hired a Ang Mo to be the customer support service manager. He is already working here even though his EP is not approved yet. Singaporean don't want or cannot do this job meh?
 

The_Hypocrite

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The next thing Australia needs to target is the Working Holiday Visa crap,,,,it give employers the excuse to hire cheap labour and contributes to the high youth unemployment rate,,,,for starters maybe reform the tax system,,,all working holiday visa people pay a flat tax of 40%,,right now they get tax breaks for working a year in aust,,stupid policy

Legislation is the only way to ensure that locals come first. And it's not just the USA or EU; Australia is headed in the same direction:

457 Visa Employer Requirements

An employer must be approved as a sponsor before being able to recruit overseas workers under the 457 work visa. To be approved as a sponsor, an employer must be an Australian business that operates within Australia or an overseas business bringing in overseas employees for the purpose of setting up a business within Australia. Both types of businesses must attest that they have a demonstrated commitment to employing local labour and undertake non-discriminatory employment practices.

Business must not have anything adverse on their record pertaining to the business or anyone associated with the business.

Employers must also show a commitment to meeting Australia's requirements for training Australian workers.
 

halsey02

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Singapore is already going to implement new laws this year for employers to hire locals first, but this suah ku Amy Khor blur sotong and trying to act like she represent MOM.

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/firms-must-now-post-job-listings-singaporeans-mom-site

"SINGAPORE — Employers will have to advertise job vacancies on a new government jobs bank for at least 14 days before they apply to hire an Employment Pass (EP) holder, starting from Aug 1 next year.

The new rule, applicable to jobs paying up to S$12,000 a month, is aimed at making firms consider Singaporeans fairly for a job, said the Ministry of Manpower (MOM).

Acting Manpower Minister Tan Chuan-Jin said: “These changes are part of a broader effort to ensure that good jobs continue to be created for Singaporeans."

How come the 'zorro' & the Tudang wearing one plus all those Union's affiliated ones, come out & defend the SINgaporeans First ?? Amy Khor is from MOM , every foreigner bring in money.....where you think, MOM gets the swanky chairs etc....it is a money making ministry, at the expense of SINgapore workers....of course it is SINgaporeans last..if my income comes from 'leeching' off the foreigners....

Maid alone....220,000 FDW...right? say $250 per DH....it is 55,000,000 & it is 660,000,000 per year...how much can they make from a SINgaporean? that is why Amy Khor Says...SINgaporeans can never be first...it is $$$.:rolleyes:
 

yellowarse

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Maid alone....220,000 FDW...right? say $250 per DH....it is 55,000,000 & it is 660,000,000 per year...how much can they make from a SINgaporean? that is why Amy Khor Says...SINgaporeans can never be first...it is $$$.:rolleyes:

We have a fascist govt. A fascist govt always puts corporate and state interests first, before the interests of workers. In a fascist state, the beneficiaries of any state or economic policy are the ruling elite, their cronies and corporations in collusion with the govt​, never the people.
 

blindswordsman

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In Europe:
France's membership in the European Union adds another twist to this: France gives first priority for jobs to French citizens, then to EU citizens, and then to the rest of the world. In order for, say, an American to get a job in France, s/he essentially has to prove that s/he is more qualified than anyone in the European Union.

In USA:

in order for an employer to hire someone under this type of visa, they must first be able to prove that no qualified U.S. workers are able (or willing) to do the work in question -- no small feat in today's economy. The employer has to first publicly advertise the position in a United States newspaper and make every effort to first hire a U.S. worker before recruiting a foreign national....But government say nono , hire foreigners first and make all natives serve National Slavery? Uniquely Singaporean.

Not uniquely Singaporean but stupidity of the pappies. They love foreigners and believe that without FTsh SG will perish.
 

blindswordsman

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No thanks to the 60% gong chee byes. :oIo:

If we do so we will be known as xenophobic. :oIo:

...then the Japanese are also xenophobic. They grew their economy after WW2 and how did they do it? Tell the Japs that they did it with help from FTsh and they are likely to shoot you.
 

escher

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In Europe:
France's membership in the European Union adds another twist to this: France gives first priority for jobs to French citizens, then to EU citizens, and then to the rest of the world. In order for, say, an American to get a job in France, s/he essentially has to prove that s/he is more qualified than anyone in the European Union.

The employer, not the individual, files the work permit application, and before a permit is granted, the employer must prove that no European Union citizen is able to do the job.

http://www.workpermit.com/belgium/employer_work_permits.htm

In USA:

in order for an employer to hire someone under this type of visa, they must first be able to prove that no qualified U.S. workers are able (or willing) to do the work in question -- no small feat in today's economy. The employer has to first publicly advertise the position in a United States newspaper and make every effort to first hire a U.S. worker before recruiting a foreign national.

http://www.h1base.com/visa/work/h1basereviewsworkvisaoptions/ref/1697/

But government say nono , hire foreigners first and make all natives serve National Slavery? Uniquely Singaporean.

LOL! Tell that to the govt public sector, which is infested with foreigners. :rolleyes:

Look, there's no problem with hiring talented foreigners to fulfill a pertinent need of any organization. However, when even the public sector has so many foreigners, it tells me that either the education system is not very good in producing skilled, employable local workers, or the govt is steeped in hypocrisy.

Legislation is the only way to ensure that locals come first. And it's not just the USA or EU; Australia is headed in the same direction:

457 Visa Employer Requirements

An employer must be approved as a sponsor before being able to recruit overseas workers under the 457 work visa. To be approved as a sponsor, an employer must be an Australian business that operates within Australia or an overseas business bringing in overseas employees for the purpose of setting up a business within Australia. Both types of businesses must attest that they have a demonstrated commitment to employing local labour and undertake non-discriminatory employment practices.

Business must not have anything adverse on their record pertaining to the business or anyone associated with the business.

Employers must also show a commitment to meeting Australia's requirements for training Australian workers.

My company just hired a Ang Mo to be the customer support service manager. He is already working here even though his EP is not approved yet. Singaporean don't want or cannot do this job meh?





PAPs ARE ATTACKING SINGAPOREANS BY THIS ATTACK ON ROY
PAPs ARE FIXING THEIR PIANO WIRES AROUND THE NECKS OF SINGAPOREANS
PAPs ARE FIXING THE NECKLACE OF BURNING CAR TYRES ON THE NECKS OF SINGAPOREANS
WILL SINGAPOREANS REMAIN HEAD DOWN DOWN AND ARSEHOLES UP HIGH HIGH FOR PAPs TO FUCK
AND TO TIEW AND TO TIE PIANO WIRES?

TURN UP AT THE RALLY AT HONG LIM TO SUPPORT ROY AND SHOW PAPs WE FIGHT THIS TIME
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH


Hang those PAP maggots cockroaches with piano wires from lamp posts to make them dance before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
BBQ those PAP maggots cockroaches before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Cut a few more arseholes into those PAP maggots cockroaches to let out their shit before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Make those PAP maggots cockroaches eat joss sticks and candle wax before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.



GET RID OF THE POISON IN SINGAPORE
HANG ALL THOSE FUCKING PAPs AND THEIR COLLABORATORS
BBQ THE BASTARD PAPs

AND SINGAPORE CAN BE AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER THAN SWITZERLAND

OR REMAIN HEAD DOWN DOWN AND ARSEHOLES UP HIGH HIGH TO BE FUCKED TO BE TIEWED TO BE KANNED BY THE PAP MAGGOTS COCKROACHES

Kill them all PAPs
Let GOD sort out the good from the really bad ones
The good PAPs can then eat joss sticks and candle wax from time to time
The bad PAPs like smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY will be raped and tiewed and kanned by legions of ghouls and demons and not ever
get time off to eat joss sticks and candle wax

Hang those PAP maggots cockroaches with piano wires from lamp posts to make them dance before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.

BBQ those PAP maggots cockroaches before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.

Cut a few more arseholes into those PAP maggots cockroaches to let out their shit before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.

Make those PAP maggots cockroaches eat joss sticks and candle wax before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.


None of those in PAP work for anyone but that smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY, to help him hold down Singaporeans to screw and fuck hundreds of BILLIONs from us all into smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY stinkapore sovereign funds.

They are there in PAP because LKY know that they are a bunch of self serving greedy bastards and scrapings of scums of society. To call them maggots cockroaches will be to insult real maggots and real cockroaches.
LKY will never allow good decent people into the PAP and good decent people will not want to get into the PAP.

Those in PAP are the most corrupt and moral degenerates and moral bankrupts and moral filths that are being presented to stinkaporeans as moral compasses.

Despite the leeching and fucking of singaporeans by the cheebye PAP and LKY, Singapore still managed to survive to date.
Despite their being hung as a fucking millstones around the necks of Singaporeans and the idiocy and corrupt manipulations of PAP and LKY, Singapore still not dead yet.

WE ALL ARE NOW WAITING FOR THE DEATH OF LKY IN COMING DAYS OR WEEKS.
WE ALL WILL YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AGAIN AND AGAIN DANCING SINGING ON TABLE TOPS AND STREETS

WE THEN WILL SEE THOSE IN PAP WITH SHARPENED KNIVES HOOTING ARSEHLOON A DOZEN NEW ARSEHOLES AND THE DEATH OF THE ENTIRE LEE KWA CLAN

WE THEN WILL PICK UP PIANO WIRES AND HANG ALL THOSE REMAINING PAP AND THEIR COLLABORATORS FROM LAMP POSTS AND SEE THOSE BASTARDS AND BITCHES DANCE.
AND HAPPINESS WILL RETURN TO OUR LAND.

AND STINKAPORE WILL BECOME SINGAPORE ONCE MORE.

https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en
 

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Becos Sinkapore has this circus clown.
 

blindswordsman

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LOL! Tell that to the govt public sector, which is infested with foreigners. :rolleyes:

Look, there's no problem with hiring talented foreigners to fulfill a pertinent need of any organization. However, when even the public sector has so many foreigners, it tells me that either the education system is not very good in producing skilled, employable local workers, or the govt is steeped in hypocrisy.

We know the pappies like to bull shit with statistics but as long as foreigners/PRs continue to get jobs in civil service and locals remain jobless, nothing has changed in favour of sinkies.
 

blindswordsman

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My company just hired a Ang Mo to be the customer support service manager. He is already working here even though his EP is not approved yet. Singaporean don't want or cannot do this job meh?

Anyone from MOM reading this post? Why this ang moh shit is allowed to work without his EP approval? An offence is committed by the company and the shitty ang moh. Are they allowed to make a mockery of the laws in SG?
 

halsey02

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Singaporeans want to do construction jobs?

Or cook?

I think you have not eaten 'more salt than rice'...SINgaporeans had been working in the construction, shipyards etc...way before the foreigners were brought in, for the latter was cheaper... & SINgaporean's educational level had risen & the government fault in breeding elitism...


The Samsui Woman ( aka red headed brigade) was still hauling bricks & cement in construction sites up to the early 1980's....& there were those who had little education, still worked in the construction sites etc....what changed that...you ask the government...

Cook...you got to be kidding...plenty of them... I cook! there many 'cooks' too out there (aka crooks)...they 'cook the books"......
 
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