that's why i said i have a bad feeling about the outcome of this whole business...
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Ravi responds to MHA statement
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that's why i said i have a bad feeling about the outcome of this whole business...
How to win with all the pet kangaroos in attendance?
The crux of the issue here is just to raise awareness and embarrass the pappies.
If Ravi wins the case, I pay $500 to a $1 bet.
That Bad, Huh!
Yes, that bad. Can you imagine the consequences in the event of Ravi winning the case after all the public denials from MHA? Chances of Ravi winning is alomst on par with Ravi being President of Singapore. Zero.
but the alternative will be to accept that criminals should be all beaten to death! anyone comfortable with that on your conscience?
Below quotes are to demonstrate to all and sundry that if not a lawyer at least you have some knowledge of the principles of equity. Another LockeLiberal although you tend to use sound bites rather than point form arguments.
Hi there. Good to know there's someone here well versed in the Maxims of Equity. Cheers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxims_of_equity
Now this is how a real lawyer will write to clarify legal concepts for the layman:
1. Justice was already served. When A commits the crime of robbery or running a porn website and is convicted to say 6 months in the slammer that is justice served. Society in general and much less the ruffians in blue have no right to inflict further punishment for the original crime.
2. If A, be he Dinesh Whatever for robbery or Leongsam for running a porn website misbehaves when in the slammer, he ought to be dealt with according to prison rules.
3. Force may be used to subdue Dinesh Whatever or Leongsam, but only such force as is necessary to deal with the situation and thereafter subject him to punishment for misbehaviour in prison as per point 2 above.
4. If they use more force than is necessary and causes harm to Dinesh Whatever or Leongsam, then the prisoner or his estate (if he dies from the use of such unnecessary force) has the right to sue the Government.
5. When the Government is being sued, it is for all intents and purposes an ordinary litigant. In other words, it is not treated as superior or more likely to be believed and most importantly the Government must follow the procedures and principles which applies to cases put before the court. One of the most important principles is that commenting on a case that is before the courts may amount to interference with the judicial process and whoever does that should be charged for CONTEMPT OF COURT.
6. These general principles as stated above are for the protection of ALL, not just Dinesh Whatever or Leongsam and their strict enforcement is in the interest of society. Today it may be Dinesh Whatever, tomorrow it may be Leongsam’s issue (legal jargon for child) who suffers at the hands of ruffians in blue who had quarrels with their wives the previous night and need to take it out on somebody anybody and the easiest targets are those so-called scums under their custody. By the way, the ruffians in blue are enforcing that custody on behalf of the people and the prison grounds are not their personal playground.
It pains me that Sinkies are so unaware of many concepts which are fundamental to democracy – one of the most important of which is RULE OF LAW.
Now, any more questions? Do you think I am at least as good if not better than the person whose face is on my avatar? Just kidding.
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I agree, but these days things are a tad different. This is starting to be a matter of public interest, and if half the accusations are true, the Prison services all the way up to MHA will have alot to answer. In such cases, the judiciary will find it hard to justify letting the government win, due to the high profile nature of the case, or ironically, the presiding judges might find themselves scandalising the judiciary, giving it a bad name, with a single bad decision. Let's face it, a young man died in his cell and a $10,000 fine for the person in charge is a joke. They can charge and sue so many people using contempt of court or scandalisong the judiciary before human rights organisations will kpkb.
Now this is how a real lawyer will write to clarify legal concepts for the layman:
1. Justice was already served. When A commits the crime of robbery or running a porn website and is convicted to say 6 months in the slammer that is justice served. Society in general and much less the ruffians in blue have no right to inflict further punishment for the original crime.
2. If A, be he Dinesh Whatever for robbery or Leongsam for running a porn website misbehaves when in the slammer, he ought to be dealt with according to prison rules.
3. Force may be used to subdue Dinesh Whatever or Leongsam, but only such force as is necessary to deal with the situation and thereafter subject him to punishment for misbehaviour in prison as per point 2 above.
4. If they use more force than is necessary and causes harm to Dinesh Whatever or Leongsam, then the prisoner or his estate (in he is dead from the use of such unnecessary force) has the right to sue the Government.
5. These general principles as stated above are for the protection of ALL, not just Dinesh Whatever or Leongsam and their strict enforcement is in the interest of society. Today it may be Dinesh Whatever, tomorrow it may be Leongsam’s issue (legal jargon for child) who suffers at the hands of ruffians in blue who had quarrels with their wives the previous night and need to take it out on somebody anybody and the easiest targets are those so-called scums under their custody. By the way, the ruffians in blue are enforcing that custody on behalf of the people and the prison grounds are not their personal playground.
It pains me that Sinkies are so unaware of many concepts which are fundamental to democracy – one of the most important of which is RULE OF LAW.
Now, any more questions? Do you think I am at least as good if not better than the person whose face is on my avatar? Just kidding.
Great point and thanks.
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Thank you for the sound bite. This is what one would expect from a PAP IB. In a nutshell if the brigade is here in full force, something fishy is going on. Vote wisely. Kick out the Lightning. Cheers and have a nice day!
PAP kind has no conscience!
Where can I place my bet? I always like to bet when the odds are so terrible but the payout is good. A few bucks to give away only mah.
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