Simple Question on Big Bang

[vamjok]

time label does not play a role here. 2nd law states that entropy of a system will increased, as absolute entropy is difficult to determine, but the changes in entropy from 1 system to another is easy to know. what we are saying here is the changes between the system observed before and after, not the rate.

in fact the whole topic of thermodynamics its easier to look at it using mathematics, those that talk a lot of cock without showing a single equation...you know they are not trained in this area.

in fact the defination of entropy at a particular energy is just...

S = k Ln(w)

k - boltzmann constant
w - no of microstate available at that particular condition

i was waiting for that cock to show evolution violate this 2nd law mathematically and cannot be real. in fact such argument has long being thrown out of window in last 200 years long ago when someone mentioned the existence of life violate thermoD principle. Someone performed what i did earlier on to counter that idiot to shut him up, of cos that idiot was mathematically trained and knew he was wrong. unlike our troll here, did not even know WHERE HE WAS WRONG. in fact most of those maths i performed here are actually done by someone famous long ago, if not how come why you think i so confident and cocky LOL

 

[zhihau]

do you know how stupid and ridiculous that statement sound???

anger mires the perception, bro
me was roaring in laughter, folks here at Starbucks thought me was a loose nut

 

[Kinana]

Ahahahahaha............. so many of you atheists take on one theist also lose big time, drifter even needs to create a new nick to make a fool of himself.
I'm glad you fellas are so worked up. Ahahahahahahaha....................

cheers

 

[Kinana]

time label does not play a role here. 2nd law states that entropy of a system will increased, as absolute entropy is difficult to determine, but the changes in entropy from 1 system to another is easy to know. what we are saying here is the changes between the system observed before and after, not the rate.

in fact the whole topic of thermodynamics its easier to look at it using mathematics, those that talk a lot of cock without showing a single equation...you know they are not trained in this area.

in fact the defination of entropy at a particular energy is just...

S = k Ln(w)

k - boltzmann constant
w - no of microstate available at that particular condition

i was waiting for that cock to show evolution violate this 2nd law mathematically and cannot be real. in fact such argument has long being thrown out of window in last 200 years long ago when someone mentioned the existence of life violate thermoD principle. Someone performed what i did earlier on to counter that idiot to shut him up, of cos that idiot was mathematically trained and knew he was wrong. unlike our troll here, did not even know WHERE HE WAS WRONG. in fact most of those maths i performed here are actually done by someone famous long ago, if not how come why you think i so confident and cocky LOL

But unfortunately for you, the secondly law of thermodynamics had been thoroughly proven time and again.
Your evolution theory has never been seen no matter what theory you cooked up sir. So all you have is simply a theory that is unobservable, unscientific and therefore proven wrong sir.

 

[Fook Seng]

But unfortunately for you, the secondly law of thermodynamics had been thoroughly proven time and again.
Your evolution theory has never been seen no matter what theory you cooked up sir. So all you have is simply a theory that is unobservable, unscientific and therefore proven wrong sir.

There is no secondly law of themodynamics. Incidentally, could you substantiate your last sentence that evolution theory is unscientific and why it is proven wrong. Could you also explain to all of us here what you understand by scientific and unscientific? You are I understand a Christian without a soul as you could not admit you have one.

 

[Kinana]

No second law of thermodynamics? What do you mean?

 

[zhihau]

There is no secondly law of themodynamics.

that one is an honest mistake, bro
suspect he/she typing too fast on an iPhone or iPad or an android device.
spell checks do fail sometimes

 

[Fook Seng]

that one is an honest mistake, bro
suspect he/she typing too fast on an iPhone or iPad or an android device.
spell checks do fail sometimes

This is probably an honest mistake but the rest of what he said is not.

 

[Fook Seng]

that one is an honest mistake, bro
suspect he/she typing too fast on an iPhone or iPad or an android device.
spell checks do fail sometimes

I agree it is very difficult to type on iPhone or other smarts, especially when you have to bold everything to make up for lack of substance.

 

[zhihau]

I agree it is very difficult to type on iPhone or other smarts, especially when you have to bold everything to make up for lack of substance.

hmm... perhaps this fella good with basic HTML codes, not too difficult to add the brackets along the way

 

[Kinana]

So evolution observed before?

 

[zhihau]

So evolution observed before?

you never fail to amuse me with your level of comprehension and data retention

 

[Kinana]

You never fail to amuse me by ignoring real and simple reality.

 

[zhihau]

You never fail to amuse me by ignoring real and simple reality.

ahaha... am glad me brought you some amusement as much as you've brought me, am pretty sure that readers know exactly whose having a better grasp at reality

 

[vamjok]

But unfortunately for you, the secondly law of thermodynamics had been thoroughly proven time and again.
Your evolution theory has never been seen no matter what theory you cooked up sir. So all you have is simply a theory that is unobservable, unscientific and therefore proven wrong sir.

then show in mathematics evolution violate the 2nd law which is what you claim. dun need to talk so much, all i want to see is equations. so far you have not being able to do so and only keep insisting it does violate without proving it mathematically. in another word, TALK COCK.

i was even in the mood to give u a head start by listing 0th to 3rd law in equations forms. in thermodynamics, all theory are in equations, if you say evolution violate it, THEN show it how it violate in equations.

 

[Kinana]

The law itself states very clearly that productive energy decreases which means evolution can never take place. Besides, evolution has never been observed so in theory, observation and logic evolution is not possible n never existed bros.

 

[zhihau]

The law itself states very clearly that productive energy decreases

have you eaten your dinner? :o:o:o

 

[Kinana]

Have you ever studied physics?

 

[Psalm23]

lol... "once upon a time" means "in the beginning..." if you cannot see the irony behind this, then you are sadly deluded.
still trying to justify fictitious belief in god by twisting facts to support your superstitions??? here's the treatment prescribed in the bible for treating leprosy. Ha!!!

Leviticus 14:2-52)
"This shall be the law of the leper."
God's law for lepers: Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle
the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly away. Next find a lamb and
kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient's right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times
with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally find another

pair of birds. Kill one and dip the live bird in the dead bird's blood. Wipe some blood on the
patient's right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle the house with blood 7 times. That's all there is to it.

Fishy,

You miss the point and you are trying to avoid the discussion. Good try...not you have not succeeded.

In the beginning = Once upon a time.....may be yes, may be no....I think if you were to ask English language experts, you will get all different answers. But that's not the point because we are not talking about English Language.

The point is the every word that written in the Bibe is protected in terms of meeting the mathematical (gematria) structure. Any change, even a very small change will destroy that mathematical structure. Another point is that these mathematical structures are too impossible to have been due to chance because the probability to occur is 1 to few million or even billion. The third point is that the alphabets of two languages (Hebrews and Greek) which are used in the original manuscripts of the Bible have official numerical equivalence and no one really know how it came about. Any knowledge of the history is simply a guesswork but the truth is that these languages have numerical equivalence. Question: Why only these two languages.

Another crucial point, the mathematical structures in the OT and NT when converting many verses of the Bible are consistent in terms of what the number means. For example 7 always means perfection, 6 is always the number of fallen man, etc.....

Many of us have some understanding of secular copyright laws that are meant to protect the work of authors, and likewise God has encoded His messages and 'copyrighted' His messages using this mathematical structures encoded in the Bible verses to protect His messages,

Go and google for this topic on Bible Gematria and you will see wonder of the mathematical structures that are encoded into the Bible verses.

 

[Psalm23]

For those what are interested to know about Bible Gematria, perhaps you can start by reading the following articles

In the very first verse of the Bible (Genesis 1:1), God sets the tone for gematria that continues richly throughout both the Hebrew Old Testament and Greek New Testament.


"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." In Hebrew, this verse has seven words and 28 (7 × 4) letters. The number seven is repeated throughout the Bible as a number of perfection and completeness. For instance, there are seven feasts of Israel, seven good years and seven famine years interpreted in Pharaoh's dreams, seven years of service for each of Jacob's wives, seven lamps of the Menorah, seven trumpets, seven days' marching around Jericho, seven washings in the Jordan for Naaman, seven churches, seven candlesticks, seven seals, seven horns, seven eyes, seven stars, seven thunders, seven crowns, seven sprinklings of blood before the veil, seven Spirits of God, etc.

Ivan Panin, who wrote more than 42,000 pages of Bible gematria notes, found over 50 multiples of seven in the very first verse of the Bible. These multiples could not be due to chance. Above each letter in the graphic is the gematria or number value for that letter. By adding the numbers in different combinations, one can see many statistically meaningful multiples of the number seven. Here are just a few of the multiples:

The seven words in the first verse of the Bible have exactly 28 (7 × 4) letters.
The gematria of the first and last letters of the first half of the verse is 42 (7 × 6).
The gematria value of the first and last letters of the second half is 91 (7 × 13).
The nouns have 14 letters (7 × 2).
The sum of the nouns (God, heavens and earth) is 777 (7 × 111).
The place value of these nouns is 147 (7 × 21).
The Hebrew verb created has a value of 203 (7 × 29).
The first 3 words contain the subject and have exactly 14 letters.
The place value of these letters is 140 (7 × 20).
Of these 14, the place value of the silent letters is 28 (7 × 4).
And the place value of the non-silent letters is 112 (7 × 16).
The odd numbers among the 14 total 42 (7 × 6).
Even numbers among the 14 total 98 (7 × 14).
Multiplying the 14 place values of letters by their order is 1,008 (7 × 144).
The last four words contain the object and also have exactly 14 letters.
The object The Heavens has seven letters, as does the object and the earth.
The numeric value of the first and last letters of all words is 1,393 (7 × 199).
The sum of the first and last letters of the first and last words is 497 (7 × 71).
The value of the first and the last letters of each word between is 896 (7 × 128).
The sum of the factors of 896 is 21 (7 × 3).
The first letters of the first and last words have a gematria of 7.
The gematria of last letters of the first and last words is 490 (7 × 70).
The middle word and the one before it have together 7 letters.
The middle word and the one after it have together 7 letters.
The value of the first, middle, and last letters in the sentence is 133 (7 × 19).
Figures in the sum of God (8 + 6) total 14 (7 × 2).
Figures of the letters in God (1, 30, 5, 10, 40) also total 14 (7 × 2).
The sum of the place value figures of letters (1, 12, 5, 10, 13) is 14 (7 × 2).
The number of these place-value figures is 7.
Because of contractions in Hebrew (similar to the English isn't), the vocabulary of Gen. 1:1 is larger than the seven words of the verse. The nine-word vocabulary of Gen. 1:1 has a numeric value of 2275 (7 × 325).
The place value of the vocabulary is 259 (7 × 37).