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U Arse tax payers will have to pay through their noses.

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U Arse A is fucked big time. The future tax payers will have to pay through their noses. Avoid this bankrupt country for your own good. :eek::eek::eek:

Obama's budget 'will create $14 trillion deficit'



Washington - United States President Barack Obama's budget would produce US$9.3trillion (S$14trillion) in deficits over the next decade, an eye-popping figure that threatens his ambitious goals to overhaul health care and explore new energy sources, say congressional auditors.

New Congressional Budget Office (CBO) figures which emerged on Friday offer a far more dire outlook for Mr Obama's budget than the new administration predicted just last month - a deficit US$2.3trillion worse.

It is a prospect even the President's own budget director called unsustainable.

In his White House campaign run, Mr Obama assailed the economic policies of his predecessor, Mr George W. Bush.

But the dismal deficit figures, if they prove to be accurate, would amount to more than four times the deficits of Mr Bush's presidency and raise the prospect that Mr Obama and his Democratic allies controlling Congress would have to consider raising taxes once the recession ends.

By the auditors' calculation, Mr Obama's budget would generate deficits averaging almost $1trillion a year between 2010 and 2019.

Worst of all, the budget office says the deficit under Mr Obama's policies would never go below 4per cent of the size of the economy, figures that economists agree are unsustainable.

By the end of the decade, the deficit would exceed 5per cent of gross domestic product, a dangerously high level.

White House budget chief Peter Orszag said the CBO's long-range economic projections were more pessimistic than those of the White House, private economists and the Federal Reserve, and he remained confident that Mr Obama's budget, if enacted, would produce smaller deficits.

Deficits so big put upward pressure on interest rates as the government offers more attractive interest rates to attract borrowers.

Mr Obama defended his budget plans, insisting that he remained committed to halving the deficit within four years.

'In total, our budget would bring discretionary spending for domestic programmes as a share of the economy to its lowest level in nearly half a century,' the President said in his weekly radio address.

'And we will continue making these tough choices in the months and years ahead so that, as our economy recovers, we do what we must to bring this deficit down.'

Earlier, he said he would be issuing guidelines for spending infrastructure money in the stimulus package.

'Whenever a project comes up for review, we will ask a few simple questions: Does it advance the core mission of the Recovery Act? Does it jump-start job creation? Does it lay the foundation for lasting prosperity?' he said.

The Act specifically excludes projects such as casinos, aquariums and zoos, golf courses and swimming pools, Vice-President Joe Biden said, in a letter sent separately to the US Conference of Mayors as part of the President's announcement.
AP, Bloomberg, AFP
 

axe168

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All laymen think alike.. Gosh !..

Which is important ?

1) To worry about tax or,
2) To improve revenue

I shall rest my case..
 

johnsgp1

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All laymen think alike.. Gosh !..

Which is important ?

1) To worry about tax or,
2) To improve revenue

I shall rest my case..

all laymen have to think like that...we are looking at a whole generation of americans in debt, and many have blow their retirement funds... how to improve revenue when the whole financial sector is all but doom, and the 3 big car manufacturers are no longer the pride of americans...
this is a beautiful country with lots of mouse traps..
 

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all laymen have to think like that...we are looking at a whole generation of americans in debt, and many have blow their retirement funds... how to improve revenue when the whole financial sector is all but doom, and the 3 big car manufacturers are no longer the pride of americans...
this is a beautiful country with lots of mouse traps..

In debts.. there are good debts and bad debts..
Genius keeps good debts.. and commoner accumulate bad debts. I have no comment on the ordinary ppl.. But hey, without them, genius will not be around.

In SG, ppl save.. not knowing the interest rate receivable is lesser than the inflation rate.. In no time, these ppl will suffer too.. Again, I have no comment on the ordinary ppl.. But hey, without them, genius will not be around. Thank goodness..

Errrr... Uncle did you pay for my professional advice ?
 

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In debts.. there are good debts and bad debts..
Genius keeps good debts.. and commoner accumulate bad debts. I have no comment on the ordinary ppl.. But hey, without them, genius will not be around.

In SG, ppl save.. not knowing the interest rate receivable is lesser than the inflation rate.. In no time, these ppl will suffer too.. Again, I have no comment on the ordinary ppl.. But hey, without them, genius will not be around. Thank goodness..

Errrr... Uncle did you pay for my professional advice ?

so in your professional opinion, are americans holding good debts or bad debts?
 

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In debts.. there are good debts and bad debts..
Genius keeps good debts.. and commoner accumulate bad debts. I have no comment on the ordinary ppl.. But hey, without them, genius will not be around.

In SG, ppl save.. not knowing the interest rate receivable is lesser than the inflation rate.. In no time, these ppl will suffer too.. Again, I have no comment on the ordinary ppl.. But hey, without them, genius will not be around. Thank goodness..

Errrr... Uncle did you pay for my professional advice ?

I am glad that Rudd is smart enough not to prop up bad banks, give Toyota the grant and take care of the little guys.

America is sacrificing the poor to wealth creation for the rich.

The US Fed Reserve is supposed to use taxpayers money to save the public, but all it did is to save Wall St by deleveraging bad banks and passing the debt to the people.

The Wall St elites have done such a wonderful jobs convincing the people that low tax is good, small govt is good, deregulation is good. But we know better now.

All those theories coming out from Uni of Chicago GSB are not working. US need a set of new theories.
 

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so in your professional opinion, are americans holding good debts or bad debts?

Good debt is debt that you can pay.
"Bad" debts is debt that you cannot afford.

In USA, debt is what give Americans the feel rich feeling (like what Aussie Prick bird like to use to compare with his favourite bashing country)

Having $200,000 credit limit and tens of credit cards do not make a person rich if that person is only learning average wages in USA. ($50,000?)

To be able to purcahse a home for a NINJA is the best example of bad things to come.

The bubble economy is the best indication of unsubstainable cost of livng.

As long as Americans do not realise that debt is a bad master, they will continue to suffer.

Mark my words. The green shoots of American recovery will be short-lived.

Stagflation will be America's burden in 2010.
 

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Bravo ! I like to elaborate further.. good debts are debts you can incur which gives you greater value overtime to repay debts.. ie borrow $5mil at 2% interest in SG and place it in St George Bank for 5% :smile: Your net gain 3% !!! your only risk is the exchange rate..

Americans started institutions, patent, copyrights etc to protect their assets.. hence, I would expect them to get up quickly from the muddy water.. countries who 'copy' or simply follow may suffer in the future..
 

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Bravo ! I like to elaborate further.. good debts are debts you can incur which gives you greater value overtime to repay debts.. ie borrow $5mil at 2% interest in SG and place it in St George Bank for 5% :smile: Your net gain 3% !!! your only risk is the exchange rate..

Americans started institutions, patent, copyrights etc to protect their assets.. hence, I would expect them to get up quickly from the muddy water.. countries who 'copy' or simply follow may suffer in the future..

The carry trade is alive and kicking.

For USA, UK, Europe and Japan who thinks zero interest rate is wonderful, the fallout will come as soon as 2010.
 

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The carry trade is alive and kicking.

For USA, UK, Europe and Japan who thinks zero interest rate is wonderful, the fallout will come as soon as 2010.

I doubt there will be a fallout.. (I could be wrong) I have great confidence in Australia. In view of its shortage of supply and high materials cost, I expect the market to shoot up after the crisis, hence, i am putting my bid in the Auction next-next Sat. Wish me luck ! :smile:
 

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Good debt is debt that you can pay.
"Bad" debts is debt that you cannot afford.

In USA, debt is what give Americans the feel rich feeling (like what Aussie Prick bird like to use to compare with his favourite bashing country)

Having $200,000 credit limit and tens of credit cards do not make a person rich if that person is only learning average wages in USA. ($50,000?)

To be able to purcahse a home for a NINJA is the best example of bad things to come.

The bubble economy is the best indication of unsubstainable cost of livng.

As long as Americans do not realise that debt is a bad master, they will continue to suffer.

Mark my words. The green shoots of American recovery will be short-lived.

Stagflation will be America's burden in 2010.

This coming from a resident of Australia, where housing debt as a % of disposable income is even higher than the US??
 

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I doubt there will be a fallout.. (I could be wrong) I have great confidence in Australia. In view of its shortage of supply and high materials cost, I expect the market to shoot up after the crisis, hence, i am putting my bid in the Auction next-next Sat. Wish me luck ! :smile:


Basically, you should have confidence in yourself and not just in Australia. At the rate Ben Benanke is destroying money as a store of wealth, and asking the rest of the world to pay for Americans' indulgence, better use the paper money to buy some real brick and mortar.

Like me, I am confident that the daylight saving issue will be thrown out and we did that.
Kevin Rudd's populrity just drop 10%. Good for us.
Fremantle, WA by-election went to the Greens. Wow!!! After 85 years with Labor!!!

If you have done your sums, factor in the contingencies (e.g. interest rates going up perhaps 2-3%) and not buying <$500k properties in Perth, you should be alright.

ALL THE BEST TO YOU, MATE !!!

Just remember that winter is not a good time to paint houses. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 

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This coming from a resident of Australia, where housing debt as a % of disposable income is even higher than the US??

This is coming from an Australian citizen who is glad his country has the smarts to avoid a decade-long financial nuclear winter.
 

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Basically, you should have confidence in yourself and not just in Australia. At the rate Ben Benanke is destroying money as a store of wealth, and asking the rest of the world to pay for Americans' indulgence, better use the paper money to buy some real brick and mortar.

Like me, I am confident that the daylight saving issue will be thrown out and we did that.
Kevin Rudd's populrity just drop 10%. Good for us.
Fremantle, WA by-election went to the Greens. Wow!!! After 85 years with Labor!!!

If you have done your sums, factor in the contingencies (e.g. interest rates going up perhaps 2-3%) and not buying <$500k properties in Perth, you should be alright.

ALL THE BEST TO YOU, MATE !!!

Just remember that winter is not a good time to paint houses. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:


Well, I am avoiding <500k at all cost, even if I have to sacrifice my chicken wing or feet. I think it is time to get into the market, and convert it into chicken business... I hope I can provide the neighbourhood with some pleasure along the way :wink:

Oh yes, I'll vote for Mycum Turnoff in the next election. heehee
 

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Well, I am avoiding <500k at all cost, even if I have to sacrifice my chicken wing or feet. I think it is time to get into the market, and convert it into chicken business... I hope I can provide the neighbourhood with some pleasure along the way :wink:

Oh yes, I'll vote for Mycum Turnoff in the next election. heehee

Refer to your Federal Treasury Budget paper No 1, and turn to pages 4-17 on the Budget’s structural balance. You will realise that Kevin Rudd is doing the right thing.

That is why sometimes, we need to change to a more "progressive" government, but shame on Rudd's cash handout. It would be better spent on infrastructure projects.
 

neddy

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This coming from a resident of Australia, where housing debt as a % of disposable income is even higher than the US??

BTW, if you were to refer to the median figure, Aussie has a higher disposal income compared to an American. Moreover, there are less out of pocket expenses thanks to a working public healthcare system.



As for America,

Thanks to the powerful lobby groups..........

Treasury secretary has given up on Wall St by giving them a good "no-stress" test report card.

Looks like Obama's public healthcare plan is being shot down by the healthcare industry and insurers before it can lift off the ground. It is dragging the averaging American down.

Again. These are things spoken by an American colleague. And these are issues for America to settle.
 

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BTW, if you were to refer to the median figure, Aussie has a higher disposal income compared to an American. Moreover, there are less out of pocket expenses thanks to a working public healthcare system.



As for America,

Thanks to the powerful lobby groups..........

Treasury secretary has given up on Wall St by giving them a good "no-stress" test report card.

Looks like Obama's public healthcare plan is being shot down by the healthcare industry and insurers before it can lift off the ground. It is dragging the averaging American down.

Again. These are things spoken by an American colleague. And these are issues for America to settle.

Tell it Wall St! LOL! LOL!

Markets are up, up and awaaaay, so I suppose your source is not that credible, as the results are plain and evident for all to see. I am especially impressed with BOA. Wow, what a takeoff!

Lobbyists? Oh thats right! Obama got rid of most of them, campaign promise you know. Oh we expect Obama to face his healthcare battle one co at a time. I do feel sorry for the healthcare companies though as they already have to cover 14 million children in the US this year alone. Must be hard for them.

Yup, soon we will have free healthcare with almost no taxes, I just hope my excellent quality of care does not go down the toilet to Australian crap standards where a poor guy has to wait a whole year for a hip replacement surgery. Nah, I dont think Americans would tolerate anything you Australians do. Its just a nightmare down under

Yup, we just have the best of everything, and ya know, it feels really, really good.

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 

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Tell it Wall St! LOL! LOL!

Markets are up, up and awaaaay, so I suppose your source is not that credible, as the results are plain and evident for all to see. I am especially impressed with BOA. Wow, what a takeoff!

Lobbyists? Oh thats right! Obama got rid of most of them, campaign promise you know. Oh we expect Obama to face his healthcare battle one co at a time. I do feel sorry for the healthcare companies though as they already have to cover 14 million children in the US th...

You tok like no education.... low class....
 
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