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Coffeeshop Chit Chat - Young SGs also TULAN FTs...</TD><TD id=msgunetc noWrap align=right> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=msgtable cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="96%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=msg vAlign=top><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgbfr1 width="1%"> </TD><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt_89 <NOBR></NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>8:13 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>ALL <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (1 of 3) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>35651.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>Jul 5, 2010


Life is tough at 24 with Us and Them

Young Singaporeans too are discomfited by huge foreign presence here

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MY SISTER was back in town this past month for the first time since moving to Tanzania, in East Africa, a year ago.
During an idle conversation on property prices, she made an offhand comment that hung in the air with a note of finality: 'I cannot live here any more, it's too crowded.'
She sounded just like, well, me.
Nine months ago, I returned from a four-year study stint abroad, resigned to returning home to start work. The country that greeted me had transformed in my absence.
Singapore has been developing at breakneck speed for close to five decades now; it can sometimes be both thrilling and despairing in equal measure to find familiar alleyways gone, old shopping malls razed in a day.
But this time, it was different. It was the Chinese national frying up char kway teow, the Malaysian bus driver who had never heard of 'Clarke Quay', the Indian nationals dancing up a storm to Bhangra music in nightclubs, and the conspicuous Caucasians dotting MRT train carriages and in the heartlands. These were the things that jarred.
And it was really, really crowded.
This topic of conversation has been a perennial one among my peers for close to a year now. A recent Institute of Policy Studies survey revealed that we weren't the only Singaporeans in our mid-20s preoccupied by the issue. My sister is 27, I am 24.
Of the over 2,000 polled, the sentiment that the presence of foreigners made them economically worse off was highest among those aged 21 to 29 years old - 31 per cent of this age group felt this way, compared to only 22 per cent of those aged 50 and over.
The numbers puzzled some observers I spoke to. Shouldn't this young cosmopolitan generation be the most amenable to foreigners? Globalised and raised on a steady diet of Taiwanese pop music and American movies, surely we were comfortable with the new sights, smells and accents in our midst? And shouldn't this well-educated group better understand the economic argument for needing immigrants in a baby-strapped country?
Yes, and no. There are a myriad of reasons why young Singaporeans can tick all those boxes and still feel vulnerable about the influx of foreigners.
Some are utilitarian concerns that Singaporeans are known for - like the size of the sliver of pie that is our lot, and the strength of the rice bowl. But much of the source of our discomfort is intangible, revolving around generational angst and concepts of Singaporean identity.
But first, a caveat before anyone cries 'spoilt' and 'entitled': It is true that foreign workers do some jobs Singaporeans eschew - like build malls and clean toilets.
Some argue that Singaporeans would never stoop to certain menial tasks; others counter that these jobs pay too little to make a living, and the fount of foreigners willing to take these wages keeps them at that level.
Putting that perennial argument aside, I believe that the foreigners who irk those survey respondents - and my friends - are a different category. These are the ones in direct competition for places on the Dean's List, or who take up starting managerial positions for less money than we would have. These are the ones we are told time and again are 'hungrier' than us and therefore more likely to succeed.
Our mixed feelings towards this group spring from uncertainty and identity.
There is the sheer fact of being young. The 20s is the 'generation of angst', as political observer Eugene Tan puts it. We are thrust into the painful reality of adulthood without the internal resources, which age inevitably endows, to cope. We worry about affording a Housing Board flat and getting that promotion. We fret over whether our lives are going according to plan, having not yet accepted that they never do.
Our parents went from Third World to First, with every decade surpassing the last. Born into the First World but expecting rising affluence, we find our heads banging up against the ceiling of a country fully developed.
In school, we got used to foreigners beating us in examinations. Grown-up, it's all too easy to point the finger at them for inflating the prices of HDB flats, and stealing that promotion while 'I was away at reservist', a complaint I have heard.
Some argue that this is a misperception; that even if the foreign population had not swelled to a third of the total resident population in a decade, we would find something else to blame for the hardship - economic and otherwise - that is a part of young adulthood.
Perhaps. But Singapore society is already coping with the pain of transitioning from developing to developed. It may not have sufficient sociological ballast to withstand the shock of a sudden, intense influx of foreign labour over several years. Even if not a cause, the influx certainly deepens the stresses of an evolving nation, and intensifies the uncertainty of my generation terrified of what the future has in store.
In other words, foreigners feed our sense of insecurity. If that sounds like a poor reason for our mistrust of foreigners, we can lay claim to the second: Foreigners, through no fault of their own, cannot partake in a strong and pulsating Singaporean identity.
Our immigrant parents went to either English or Chinese schools. My generation went to school under one education system. Where some of our parents spoke crisp English with no second language, and others knew only dialect, my peers speak that lovable yet vilified Singlish, a unifying patois that means my Indian friends use Hokkien phrases and vice versa; that allows a Singaporean to be plucked out of a crowd in a foreign land by another attuned to the same cadences of speech.
Whether a sneaking fondness for package deals or a love-hate relationship with the ruling party, it is difficult to define exact components of a Singaporean identity, but its presence cannot be disputed.
We feel Singaporean enough to feel keenly the impact of those different from us, in our homeland. Instead of calling this anti-foreigner, perhaps we should cheer what this means for national identity: There's apparently enough of 'us' to generate an 'us versus them' mentality.
No, I'm not anti-foreigner. But as one friend noted, 'I like foreigners who try their best not to be foreigners.' Childish? Perhaps. But what's wrong with that?


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<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgbfr1 width="1%"></TD><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>FairTalk2 <NOBR></NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>8:47 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>ALL <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (2 of 3) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>35651.2 in reply to 35651.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>This is also specially for the ST correspondent, Ms Rachel Chang, Hope you get to read this. By the way, Rachel wrote a great article in today's ST.
GENUINE PROBLEM-SOLVING THAT CREATES NOT SO BEAUTIFUL OUTCOME
In all fairness,
While the top ppl using foreign immigrants (new citizens & PRs) to boost the Lion City's domestic market size and generate more foreign direct investment, side effects happen:

(1) That the foreign immigrants have indeed compete for oredi limited resources in Spore. Making original sporeans feeling life's more difficult.

(2) That original (what not call it Classic) Sporeans no longer enjoy moderate medical costs but due to more demands for medical care, the costs have gone up.
(3) Same for the housing. When demands for houses increased in faster pace, HDB prices shot up, including the private property market of cos.
(4) More top spots in Universaity are given to foreigners. Teaching staff and students alike.
(5) Lacking in public transportation (MRT & Bus) capacity for the increase in population.
(6) Yet the major issue is that most of the PRs merely using the resources here and later they will leave for better playing field, especially those who never serve NS and left for post graduate studies overseas. Will they return here? You should know the answer.
So, in all fairness, it is the kind intention of solving the market problems (to increase domestic market size & sustaining foreign investment) that led to inevitable outcome of some Classic (original) Sporeans to be sidelined.
In all fairness, at this stage of the game there isn't many short-term solutions for the situation. So, is there a long-term solution to improve on quality of life for most Singaporeans? Especially for the loyal & Classic (original) singaporeans. Maybe someone knows?
In the mean time, more & more young talented Sporeans who have the opportunities to study overseas, are planning not to come back. Opportunities for the Classic (original) Sporeans are getting less. But greater opportunities quality of life (attractions) for the young ones if they chose not to return.

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Young grads' views are of no concern

Fuck them with sky-high housing prices or else they will think whole world owes them a living
 
Madmansg would have provided a good summary. NS is killing SG. Why would anyone want to defend Sinkieland when half the population introduces practices from their own home countries that the Sinkies have to put up with? Sinkies even have to celebrate the aliens' festivals with them, e.g. the water-wasting day or whatever it is called. Sinkies would probably be better off living in a foreign land with acres of elbow room and they can choose the type of foreigners they want to surround themselves with.
 
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