Chitchat What happens when u go AWOL from NS for 13 years?

[Scrooball (clone)]

NSF jailed 5 years for going AWOL for more than 13 years

Singapore’s State Courts (PHOTO: Dhany Osman / Yahoo News Singapore)
From 2003 to 2004, a full-time national serviceman with the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) went absent without official leave (AWOL) on four occasions in the span of a year, a district court heard.

After being released from the SCDF detention barracks in 2004 – for going AWOL for a continuous period of more than three months – Saleh Lamri then decided to evade his national service obligations again, this time giving the authorities the slip for more than 13 years.

At the State Courts last Friday (26 October), Saleh was jailed for five years, having pleaded guilty to one count of desertion under the Civil Defence Act.

Saleh, now 35, is appealing against the prison term. He is currently behind bars.
In his decision grounds, District Judge Ng Peng Hong said, “The accused is now about 35 years old. He would probably be too old to fully fulfil his national service obligations. By the time he is to be released from prison, he would probably be close to 40 years old.”

Serial deserter
The court heard that Saleh enlisted for national service on 17 September 2002. Three months later, on 29 December 2002, he was posted to the SCDF’s National Service Training Institute at 91 Jalan Bahar.

The next year, Saleh went AWOL for seven days from 16 September to 22 September 2003. He was sent to the SCDF detention barracks for 12 days for the offence.

The next month, he was jailed seven months for desertion.

Less than five months later, Saleh went AWOL for more than one month, from 3 March to 11 April 2004. He spent 40 days in the detention barracks.

Three months later, Saleh again went AWOL. He deserted his national service duties for one month from 6 July to 4 August, and for more than three months from 20 August to 29 November 2004. He was sent back to the detention barracks for 40 days.

Saleh was released from detention on 29 December 2004. But the next day, he again failed to report for duty. The SCDF looked for him at home on three separate occasions on 1 August 2006, 11 July 2007 and 20 August 2008, but to no avail.

Saleh was arrested on 22 March this year after a police spot check.
The total period of his desertion, from 30 December 2004 to 21 March 2018, was 13 years, 2 months and 21 days.

The prosecution asked for five years’ jail, in line with sentencing guidelines laid down by the High Court for national service defaulters.

Meanwhile, Saleh, who did not have a lawyer, said he was the sole breadwinner of his family.
For desertion, Saleh could have been jailed for up to 10 years.

 

[syed putra]

Malays are forbidden from fighting their neighbouring malay brothers and should be exempted from NS. Even if they enlist, they will be given insignificant posts. So why bother.

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

Malays are forbidden from fighting their neighbouring malay brothers and should be exempted from NS. Even if they enlist, they will be given insignificant posts. So why bother.

hahaha

 

[borom]

Only local born suffer this fate, with some 2nd gen PR , while pesky Pinoys, cheating PRC's and fake degree Indians nationals get good jobs without having to worry about NS or dying during route march or kena langgar by an Armoured vehicle .

Worst still some elites even get to be research scientist as a vocation!

 

[halsey02]

Unfortunately he don't have parents that can get him to 'wash test tubes'...or live outside Singapore for ages...or not in the same league as the Indian became Malay.....

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Malays are forbidden from fighting their neighbouring malay brothers and should be exempted from NS. Even if they enlist, they will be given insignificant posts. So why bother.

Still need cannon fodder to win the war

 

[steffychun]

NS in SCDF is a holiday camp. Until they tekan you before you leave and drown you in a well.

 

[syed putra]

Still need cannon fodder to win the war

King henry the 8th recruited irish infantry as " cannon fodders" only to see them hug the scottish rebels when the two were suppose to clash, and eventually attack the english army.

 

[sweetiepie]

KNN mindef should ask themselves why saleh can awol so many times KNN

 

[Hypocrite-The]

King henry the 8th recruited irish infantry as " cannon fodders" only to see them hug the scottish rebels when the two were suppose to clash, and eventually attack the english army.

And he had the excuse to get rid of both the Scottish n Irish armies. He should have continued with his victory by fully displacing the Scott's n the Irish like the way the ah tiongs do for Xinjiang.. tat way better at maintaining the peace

 

[bobby]

If NS is a privilege...then there should be no punishment for non compliance. He should be compensation instead.

 

[syed putra]

And he had the excuse to get rid of both the Scottish n Irish armies. He should have continued with his victory by fully displacing the Scott's n the Irish like the way the ah tiongs do for Xinjiang.. tat way better at maintaining the peace

The way i see it, whatever china doing in xinjiang only attracting jihadist world over.

 

[halsey02]

KNN mindef should ask themselves why saleh can awol so many times KNN

SCDF not MINDEF... same, same, but not the same..

 

[Hypocrite-The]

The way i see it, whatever china doing in xinjiang only attracting jihadist world over.

U have to fight fire with fire,,,,if all the jihadist go to ah tiong land,,,which is highly unlikely the ah tiongs will just deal with them. The ang mors softly softee approach will not work. Look at afghanistan,,till date still a shit hole,,,but if the ah tiong deal with it,,the heavy handedness etc,,,there will be no more terrorists to deal with,,,all exterminated, that is the way to go when dealing with these terrorists. they are soo eager to meet their maker,,better to help accelerate the process

 

[glockman]

SCDF is m&d haven. They practically have nothing to do, sit around, smoke, play guitar. Very senang. Yet this m&d loser went awol. What a fucktard.

 

[Kopi0Kosong]

Unfortunately he don't have parents that can get him to 'wash test tubes'...or live outside Singapore for ages...or not in the same league as the Indian became Malay.....

"...he was the sole breadwinner of his family"

How much was the Government paying him per month for the compulsoLEE national service?
Was the amount enough for him to provide for his family?
Was it solely his fault that he had to resort to other alternatives to put food on the table?
Why did he go AWOL on so many occasions? Was he bullied?

5 SCDF personnel charged over death of NSF found in fire station pump well after ragging incident

 

[Kopi0Kosong]

"At the State Courts last Friday (26 October), Saleh was jailed for five years, having pleaded guilty to one count of desertion under the Civil Defence Act."

Civil Defence Act?
Is National Service compulsory for him?

 

[Kopi0Kosong]

Food for Thought:

The late Mr Lee KY wrote in his book "Hard Truths to Keep Singapore Going":

“I have to speak candidly to be of value, but I do not want to offend the Muslim community... I think we were progressing very nicely until the surge of Islam came, and if you asked me for my observations, the other communities have easier integration – friends, inter-marriages and so on – than Muslims... I would say, today, we can integrate all religions and races, except Islam.”.

 

[sweetiepie]

SCDF is m&d haven. They practically have nothing to do, sit around, smoke, play guitar. Very senang. Yet this m&d loser went awol. What a fucktard.

KNN saleh is indeed a fucktard KNN he spent many days in db and still prefer db than smoke play guitar KNN