Westerners Bailing out of PRC banks, Temasek going all in. Who is right?

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Who do you trust more? The CEO of western banks or Whore Jinx? Because one of them is wrong for sure. Western banks all selling China bank shares, but Temasek is buying more and more. More losses for Temasick coming up?

The big banks are pulling out of China

“Now is the right time for us to sell this investment,” announced Deutsche Bank’s newish co-CEO John Cryan on Monday after the long Christmas weekend when no one was supposed to pay attention.

It was how Cryan justified the deal to sell Deutsche’s entire 19.99% stake in Hua Xia Bank in China to Chinese insurer PICC Property and Casualty. He couched the deal in terms of executing Deutsche’s “strategic agenda”: boosting capital ratios to prop up the balance sheet.

Deutsche isn’t the first Western bank to bail out of banks in China, where regulators limit foreign ownership stakes to a maximum of 20%, which brings some complications.

Goldman Sachs sold its stake in Industrial and Commercial Bank of China in 2013. Bank of America Merrill Lynch bailed out of its stake in China Construction Bank in a series of deals. BBVA, Spain’s second largest bank, has been cutting its stake in China Citic Bank from about 15% in 2013 down to 4.7% now, and that remainder appears to be earmarked for sale as well. Other banks are also likely to pick up their marbles and go, such as Standard Chartered, with its stake in Agricultural Bank of China.

Like Deutsche, they couched those deals in terms of boosting capital ratios and balance sheets.

And Deutsche could use some balance sheet repair. One of the largest and most leveraged global banks, it has been tangled up for years in a long list of scandals, court cases, and multibillion-dollar settlements. Recently it suspended senior staff in Russia after suspecting they’d assisted in laundering money for sanctioned buddies of President Vladimir Putin. We were all shocked.

At the end of October, and in the tradition of new CEOs to front-load a big pile of dirty laundry, Cryan, who was appointed in June, announced massive losses (€6 billion for the quarter), including €1 billion in provisions against litigation expenses (now at €4.8 billion), the suspension of the dividend, and the elimination of 20,000 employees and contractors. Deutsche would pull out of ten countries, mostly in Latin America and Europe. And it would dispose of its Deutsche Postbank, a retail bank with about 20,000 employees.

That loss also included a €649 million write-down of its stake in Hua Xia Bank, an admission of the economic slowdown and market rout in China, and perhaps some things Deutsche was discovering at Hua Xia Bank.

Chinese banks have become a magnet for speculation of just how far they’re stuffed with non-performing loans that should have been written off as losses long ago. No one knows the real numbers. They’re apparently a state secret, so speculation abounds. “Extend and pretend” reigns. Banks tend to topple when these things leak out.

So Deutsche, which knows a thing or two about how banks can brush big piles of toxic materials under the rug of financial statements, decided to get out while it still could. And if shareholders are asked to prop up Hua Xia’s balance sheet with fresh money, or are forced to give up their stakes during a bailout, Deutsche is going to be off the hook.

And it was a good time to sell. Not the best time — that would have been before the market collapsed this summer — but a good time. The New York Times:

In total, Deutsche Bank invested about 1.3 billion euros from 2006 to 2011. The final sale price will depend on how Hua Xia’s shares trade. But at the midpoint of the stated range, €3.45 billion, plus €400 million or so of previous dividends, Deutsche Bank will have nearly tripled its money on a gross basis.

Deutsche said that the deal, likely to be in the range of 23 billion yuan to 25.7 billion yuan ($3.55 billion to $3.96 billion), would boost its Tier 1 capital ratio of 11.5% by 30 to 40 basis points on “a pro-forma basis,” so maybe to 11.8% or 11.9%. Not exactly a huge move, given the pressures Deutsche is under from regulators and law enforcement globally, and from the never-ending scandals still to come.

But when CEOs of global banks, a very shrewd crowd, think in near-unison that it’s “the right time” — to use Cryan’s words — to sell Chinese banks, then there’s more at play than mere market timing. These stakes had been long-term strategic bets on the miracle economy of the world, not just trades. These CEOs know something. They’ve seen a thing or two behind the scenes. They might not have accurate data of just how big the piles of non-performing loans in China are, but they’re getting a feel. And it motivates them to dump their stakes in Chinese banks while they still can.

Steel, which goes into nearly everything from skyscrapers to cookware, has become symbolic for what ails China, the world’s largest consumer of it. After years of colossal booms in manufacturing and construction, which led to soaring demand for steel and ballooning steel-making capacity, everything has curdled.
 
Temasek, DBS reportedly among investors lined up for Postal Savings Bank of China shares

Singapore companies are set to be major players ahead of a planned initial public offering (IPO) by the Postal Savings Bank of China.

The Chinese bank, which has the most outlets of any lender in China, is reported to be near an agreement to sell a stake of about 15 per cent to outside investors in a deal worth about US$6.5 billion (S$9.3 billion).

The potential investors are said to include Singapore investment company Temasek Holdings, DBS Group, UBS Group, International Finance Corporation and JPMorgan Chase, according to Bloomberg.

DBS is said to be buying about US$250 million of shares, while UBS is apparently seeking to invest about US$2.5 billion and may syndicate a significant portion of that stock to other investors.

The deal is said to reflect Chinese President Xi Jinping's move to make state-owned enterprises more market-oriented and globally competitive.

The Beijing-based bank, wholly owned by state-owned China Post Group, aims to work with some of the investors to expand its investment banking, wealth management and micro-finance businesses.

It has yet to finalise the allocation for domestic investors, which include Alibaba Group's financial subsidiary, Zhejiang Ant Small and Micro Financial Services Group, China Life Insurance and Tencent Holdings, sources said.

China Telecom Corporation may also take a stake.

The total allocation could exceed US$7 billion by the time announcements are made next week.

Representatives of UBS, Temasek, DBS and JPMorgan declined to comment.

It is said that some foreign investors are attracted to the Chinese bank because of its relatively clean balance sheet with few legacy bad-loan issues.

The bank may sell shares in an overseas IPO as early as next year, sources said.

The bank, which was set up in its current form in 2007, said it has nearly 490 million individual customers and more than 40,000 branches in China, where its main focus is to service the rural population as well as small and medium- sized businesses.

The Postal Savings Bank of China and DBS agreed in January to set up a joint-venture consumer finance company, with DBS investing 120 million yuan (S$27 million) for a 12 per cent stake.
 
Temasek raises stake in ICBC in vote of confidence after rout

SINGAPORE (BLOOMBERG) - Temasek Holdings Pte, the biggest foreign investor in Chinese banks, has raised its stake in Industrial & Commercial Bank of China Ltd. to 10 per cent of the company's Hong Kong-listed shares after a stock market rout drove the world's largest bank to record-low valuations.

The Singapore state-owned investment company spent HK$141 million (S$25.4 million) to buy 30 million ICBC H shares at an average HK$4.696 apiece, according to a Hong Kong stock exchange filing on Wednesday. Temasek raised its stake from 9.97 per cent of ICBC's H shares.

"Temasek is confident in the long-term prospect of the Chinese economy," spokesman Jeffrey Fang said by e-mail. "We actively seek opportunities to broaden and rebalance our exposure to the Chinese economy."

Temasek's expression of confidence comes at a time when concerns are mounting that banks' sour credit will surge and Chinese President Xi Jinping will struggle to revive the economy as a stock slump erased US$5 trillion of market value. ICBC is trading at 0.8 times forecast book value for 2015, below the level seen during the global financial crisis and compared with an average of 1.3 times for the biggest global banks.

Shares of ICBC have dropped about 30 per cent in Hong Kong since June 12 after rallying 37 per cent over the previous 12 months. The Beijing-based lender may report zero profit growth for this year on rising bad-loan charges and margin contraction, the weakest since data became available in 2001, according to analysts' estimate in a Bloomberg survey.

Temasek has been boosting its holdings of ICBC shares over the past four years. The firm bought 3.55 billion shares at HK$5.05 apiece from Goldman Sachs Group Inc. in April 2012 and then disclosed the purchase of more the following month. In May 2013, Temasek bought 280 million more from Goldman Sachs at HK$5.5 a share, and in October 2014, raised the holding at an average HK$4.935 each. ICBC closed at HK$4.55 in Hong Kong on Wednesday.

Temasek increased its exposure to China to 27 per cent of its portfolio in the year ended March 31 from 25 percent in the previous year and broadened its investments from earlier ones in banks to include insurance, consumer and technology companies.
 
Temasek largest foreign investor in Chinese banks

April 16, 2015:

Data from SNL Financial, released earlier this week,showed that Singapore state-owned fund Temasek Holdings is the single-largest foreign investor in Chinese banks amongst the top 25 foreign investors in China. The SNL index also showed that Chinese banks had outperformed their regional peers in the Asia-Pacific, including Japan and Australia.

The SNL China Bank index gained 34.71 percent in the one year through March 31, outperforming the SNL APAC Bank index, which rose 7.56 percent.

Data on foreign investments in Chinese banks included all classes of publicly traded common shares, but excludes investments reported before January 2014. With the market value of each investors stake in a firm calculated based on the closing prices reported at the end of March 2015, Temasek emerged as the largest foreign investor. Temasek’s combined value across banks was estimated to be worth US$18 billion (S$24.5 billion).

Temasek has a six percent stake in China Construction Bank Corp (CCB), worth $12 billion, in addition to investments in the Industrial & Commercial Bank of China (ICBC) valued at $5.76 billion. Vanguard Group Inc and BlackRock Fund Advisors are ranked second and third respectively, with holdings in 15 Chinese banks valued at $6.14 billion and cross-sector holdings valued at US$4.96 billion respectively.

The two UK units of BlackRock maintained aggregate investments of close to $480 billion in the China market.But US institutional investors maintain the largest stakes in mainland Chinese banks, with a combined value of $20.1 billion of shares in Chinese lenders. Besides Temasek, Eastspring Investments, a unit of Prudential, maintains investments totalling $810 million in four mainland Chinese banks.

The fourth-ranked firm investing in mainland Chinese banks is Norges Bank Investment Management, maintains a portfolio worth $2.74 billion.

ICBC and CCB are popular with foreign investors, with 413 and 391 firms respectively holding stocks in them, according to the SNL data. CCB had the highest total value of foreign ownership, worth $25.03 billion. ICBC followed in second with $19.45 billion, while Bank of China had foreign ownership worth $11.09 billion. The Agricultural Bank of China had $5.68 billion of its value attributed to foreign investors.

Temasek has stakes in the Bank of China, China Construction Bank and the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China. Other banks that Temasek has invested in are Standard Chartered, Lloyds Banking Group, PT Bank Donavon and DBS Group.
 
Who makes 25% year-on-year without fail? Do not question authority, if you have no authority to question.
 
Sinkies can only feel rich looking at their CPF statement, most will kick the bucket b4 the can enjoy tbeir full CPF returns. Only Miss Ho Ho and the Familee having a field day in the investment mkt, nothing for em to worry, win or lose they are rewarded in Millions.
 
Sinkies can only feel rich looking at their CPF statement, most will kick the bucket b4 the can enjoy tbeir full CPF returns. Only Miss Ho Ho and the Familee having a field day in the investment mkt, nothing for em to worry, win or lose they are rewarded in Millions.

missed HO....have a perpetual bank, for every second on the clock, someone is working & contributing to that bank, through their CPF. People do not realise it is their BLOOD SWEAT TEARS hard work money....back in the 70's the same people who wants to close down their COMRADE BANK in Singapore for their staunch communist stance...is now the biggest investor in their banks....we are Chinese ....we are comrades, money run thicker than water...
 
western banks r answerable to shareholders muthurfarkers r not answerable to anyone. who can forget the lessons in bofa the bank of america saga? after bailing out the bofa back orifice farking arsehole, they got kicked out without compassion or tripartiate agreement.
 
western banks r answerable to shareholders muthurfarkers r not answerable to anyone. who can forget the lessons in bofa the bank of america saga? after bailing out the bofa back orifice farking arsehole, they got kicked out without compassion or tripartiate agreement.

Agreed with you
 
Chinese must support Chinese. PRC Banks included. Regardless.
 
cannot be.... chinese chicken being replaced by viet chicken in area G.
 
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