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Serious War Pse! PLA Jets and warship Intercepted USS Stethem missile destroyer @ SCS

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    https://www.rt.com/news/395005-china-us-warship-disputed-island/

    China dispatches military vessels & fighter jets to warn off US warship sailing near disputed island
    Published time: 2 Jul, 2017 16:59
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    China dispatches military vessels & fighter jets to warn off US warship sailing near disputed island

    FIL PHOTO: The Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Stethem © U.S. Navy / Wikipedia
    China has sent military vessels and warplanes to “warn off” USS Stethem, a guided-missile destroyer, that sailed near a disputed island in the South China Sea, according to Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Lu Kang.

    “Under the pretext of ‘freedom of navigation,’ the US side once again sent a military vessel into China's territorial waters off the Xisha Islands without China's approval,” the spokesperson said in a statement, adding that such US behavior “violated Chinese law and relevant international law, infringed upon China's sovereignty, and disrupted the peace, security and order of the relevant waters.”

    "China dispatched military vessels and fighter planes in response to warn off the US vessel," the statement reads.
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    A landing craft launches from the USS Bonhomme Richard amphibious assault ship during Talisman Saber 2017 drills off the coast of Sydney © Jason Reed Saber-rattling: Naval drills, sanctions & weapon sales revive US tensions with China

    “The Chinese side is dissatisfied with, and opposed to, the relevant behavior of the US side,” Lu added, saying that the US is "deliberately stirring up troubles in the South China Sea, as well as running in the opposite direction from countries in the region who aspire for stability, cooperation and development.”

    The US Navy did not officially confirm the operation. The US Pacific Fleet spokesman, Lt. Cmdr. Matt Knight, told Fox News that the fleet conducts “routine and regular FONOPs, as we have done in the past and will continue to do in the future,” without specifically mentioning the Sunday incident.

    However, an unidentified US Defense Department official earlier told Reuters that the US Navy destroyer USS Stethem came within 12 nautical miles of Triton Island, which is a part of the Paracel Islands located in the South China Sea between China and Vietnam.

    The head of US Pacific Command, Admiral Harry Harris, recently criticized China’s activity in the region. "China is using its military and economic power to erode the rules-based international order," he said in a speech delivered on Wednesday in Brisbane during the joint US-Australian military exercises.

    "Fake islands should not be believed by real people," he added, as reported by Fox News.

    The Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington-based think tank, said in its recent report that “Beijing has undertaken substantial upgrades of its military infrastructure in the Paracels” and particularly started building new facilities on Triton Island.

    It was the second such operation conducted by the US during Donald Trump’s presidency. On May 24, the US Navy guided-missile destroyer, the USS Dewey, came within 12 miles of the Mischief Reef in the Spratly Islands – another disputed archipelago that lies in the southern part of the South China Sea.
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    FILE PHOTO: USS Sterett © AFP Beijing, Washington flex muscles in South China Sea with separate air & navy exercises

    At that time, the Chinese Defense Ministry also sent two frigates to “warn off” the US vessel and said that it was “firmly opposed to the US behavior of showing force and boosting regional militarization.”

    The Paracel Islands are contested by China, Taiwan and Vietnam while the Spratlys are also additionally claimed by the Philippines, Malaysia and Brunei. China claims sovereignty over a large part of the South China Sea, a region crucial for China’s maritime trade.

    China has already built runways, aircraft hangars, radar sites and hardened surface-to-air missile shelters on its artificially-created islands in the region, according to photos analyzed by the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS).

    Beijing’s actions have sparked concerns in Washington and the US Navy, which is fiercely opposed to this Chinese initiative, has deployed additional warships in the disputed zone, conducted maneuvers near China’s artificial islands, and flown over them, claiming it has been done in the interest of the “freedom of navigation.”

    In response, China called Washington’s involvement in the dispute the “greatest” threat to the region.

    In early June, China and the US both held exercises involving air and navy forces, in another episode of confrontation over the disputed South China Sea. The US sent two B-1B Lancer supersonic bombers to fly a 10-hour mission from Andersen Air Force Base, Guam, which was conducted in conjunction with the US Navy’s Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer the USS Sterett.

    A day earlier, the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) conducted its own air and navy exercise off Hong Kong. The patrol mission involved three helicopters and two Type 056 corvettes, the Qinzhou and the Huizhou, the Defense Ministry reported.



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    外交部:美再次派军舰擅自进入中国西沙群岛领海是严重的政治和军事挑衅

    2017-07-03 00:29:56 来源: 新华社
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      新华社北京7月2日电 外交部发言人陆慷2日就美国“斯特西姆”号导弹驱逐舰擅自进入中国西沙群岛领海事答记者问时表示,美方再次派遣军舰擅自进入中国西沙群岛领海是严重的政治和军事挑衅行动,中方对美方有关行径表示强烈不满和坚决反对。

      有记者问:据外电报道,2日,美国“斯特西姆”号导弹驱逐舰进入中国西沙群岛领海。请问中方对此有何评论?

      陆慷说,2日,美国“斯特西姆”号导弹驱逐舰擅自进入中国西沙群岛领海。中国随即派出军舰和战斗机对美舰实施警告驱离

      陆慷指出,西沙群岛是中国固有领土。根据《中华人民共和国领海及毗连区法》,中国政府于1996年公布了西沙群岛的领海基线。中国有关法律对外国军舰进入中国领海有关事宜作出了明确规定。

      陆慷说,美方打着“航行自由”的旗号,再次派遣军舰擅自进入中国西沙群岛领海,违反中国法律及相关国际法,严重侵犯中国主权,破坏有关海域的和平、安全和良好秩序,危及中方岛上设施及人员安全,是严重的政治和军事挑衅行动。中方对美方有关行径表示强烈不满和坚决反对。

      陆慷表示,当前,在中国和东盟国家的共同努力下,南海局势趋缓降温,并不断呈现积极发展态势。美方刻意在南海挑起事端,与地区国家求稳定、促合作、谋发展的共同愿望背道而驰。

      “中方强烈敦促美方立即停止此类严重侵犯中国主权、威胁中国安全的挑衅行动。中方将继续采取一切必要措施捍卫国家主权和安全。”他说。
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    China is too kind, should had sank it without warning a deprive US of all rescue, see all on board dead, and not allowed to retrieve bodies. Fed to sharks.

    Any search and rescue missions will be fired upon. Fuck Geneva Convention and show Yankees the new international law Chinese version.
     
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    Ya feed them to the shark so can hv bigger shark fins
     
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    Xi jinping dare not mess with trump.
    China on the other hand did the same thing to japanese, vietnamese and philippines islands.
     
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    The problem with navies today is that they are too scared to fire off their close range guns. The US warship should have just sunk the chink navy ships, just like what the US warship should have done to the pinoy merchant vessel instead of gettign rammed and losing 7 of its fine sailors.
     
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    Once the shoot starts, Singapore Changi Naval Base will be a Target.

    Cruise missiles will land on Tanah Merah once the shooting escalates.

    PAP MPs will take the first flight out
     
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    pls lah, it just both side testing the reaction from the other side.

    USN want to see how fast PLA react to its provokations, commanders reaction, radar capablilties, signals etc etc to catalog for future references.
     
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    China has been acting tough & chasing away filipino fishing boats because they know that the Philippines is not a military threat

    The Chinese do not have ownership of the area. So they have to resort to bullying the small fry. However the US is a super power who can defend themselves. If they confront the US they will not get any support from the nations of ASEAN or the majority of the world.
     
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    By Michael Rivero
    It is easy to find the courage necessary to support a moral position if that position benefits oneself. True moral courage,
    however, is proven when one chooses to support that which is morally and ethically right even when such a position is to
    one's one detriment.

    Most folks have heard that Hawaii is a state, one of the United States of America. Most people, including those who live in Hawaii,
    accept that statement as a fact.

    But the reality is that in a world in which nations are as bound by the rule of laws as are the citizens of nations (if not more so),
    the truth is quite different!

    The truth is that each and every step along Hawaii's path from sovereign and independent nation, to annexed territory, to state,
    was done in violation of laws and treaties then in effect, without regard to the wishes of the Hawaiian people.
    Many people, including President Grover Cleveland, opposed the annexation of Hawaii.

    But in the end, simple greed and military interest overrode any concerns of moral right and legality. Hawaii's legitimate government
    was toppled using threat of American military force. Hawaii was stolen from her people for the benefit of wealthy American plantation
    owners and military interests, and the justifications for the crime were invented after-the-fact.

    Hawaii's government was overthrown on Jan. 17, 1893, by a relatively small group of men, most of them American by birth or heritage,
    who seized control of the Islands with the backing of American troops sent ashore from a warship in Honolulu Harbor.
    To this "superior force of the United States of America," Queen Lili`uokalani yielded her throne, under protest, in order to avoid bloodshed, trusting that the United States government would right the wrong that had been done to her and the Hawaiian people.


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    Admiral Harry Harris should learn some real americunt history before opening his mouth.
     
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    virus Alfrescian Old Timer

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  11. war is best form of peace

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    Just found in news:

    Ang Moh Trump still expecting Xijinping to help USA with NK situations.

    Xijinping now say USA is not a close friend.

    习近平太文明友善客气了!简直被美国人当傻瓜啦!

    他妈的狗屄美国人敢卖军火给台湾还来南中国海撒野,还敢指望中国压制北朝鲜!? 中国有这样傻屄吗?

    中国老早就应该联通俄罗斯朝鲜合计策划朝鲜半岛大战,收拾美国了.就是要它残手废腿,眼珠爆脱! 永久残废.

    看还出口军火给台湾,再来南中国海撒野吗?!

    不好好大开杀戒一次怎解决问题?中美两个怎样分明轮替超级强国地位?这样胶着拖延很不利啊!


    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/03/politics/trump-xi-abe-north-korea/index.html

    Xi to Trump: 'Negative factors' straining US, China relations

    By Ben Westcott and Kevin Bohn, CNN

    Updated 0719 GMT (1519 HKT) July 3, 2017
    Trump holds calls with Xi, Abe over N. Korea
    Trump holds calls with Xi, Abe over N. Korea

    Trump holds calls with Xi, Abe over N. Korea 02:29
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    Chinese state media says US relationship affected by "negative factors"
    Speaking in Seoul, Obama described North Korea as a "hard problem"

    (CNN)China's leader Xi Jinping said that ties with the US have been strained by "some negative factors" in a telephone conversation with President Donald Trump Sunday.
    The call came at the end of a tense week in US-China relations, which analysts said signaled the end of honeymoon period between the two superpowers that began with a summit at Trump's Mar A Lago resort in April.

    "Xi Jinping stressed that since his meeting with President Trump, important results have been achieved in China-US relations," reported Chinese state media outlet CCTV.
    "Meanwhile, bilateral relations have also been affected by some negative factors, for which the China side has expressed its position to the US side."
    Trump and China: What's at stake?
    Trump and China: What's at stake?
    Trump and China: What's at stake?

    Trump and China: What's at stake? 01:26
    The White House statement was more reticent, saying only that the two leaders discussed a range of issues of mutual interest including North Korea and trade relations.
    US President Trump also spoke to Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe by phone, with the two pledging deeper cooperation on North Korea, in the wake of growing frustrations over the rogue state.
    Just two days ago, Trump declared US patience with North Korea was "over."
    Bromance over?
    Relations between China and the United States had warmed up after the two leaders met in February, with Trump even describing Xi as a "terrific person."
    But in the past week, a $1.4 billion arms sale to Taiwan, which Beijing regards as a renegade province, was approved after months of delay, the same day as China's Dandong bank was sanctioned by the US for alleged ties to North Korea.
    The US also labeled China as one of the world's worst human traffickers and challenged Beijing in the South China Sea, by sailing close to a disputed island chain that China claims.
    Many took these moves as evidence of the US pursuing a harder line on the Asian superpower, likely caused by mounting frustration over a perceived lack of action by Beijing to contain North Korea.
    On June 21, Trump sent a tweet in which he said Chinese efforts on North Korea, while appreciated, had "not worked out."
    Trump to China: Thanks for trying with North Korea
    Trump to China: Thanks for trying with North Korea
    Trump to China: Thanks for trying with North Korea
    Leaders agree on North Korea
    In conversations with Xi and Abe Sunday, Trump agreed with both leaders that efforts needed to be made to avoid conflict on the Korean Peninsula.
    According to the White House statement, Trump raised the growing threat of North Korea's nuclear and ballistic arsenals with the Chinese president.
    "Both leaders reaffirmed their commitment to a denuclearized Korean Peninsula," the White House said in a readout of the phone call.
    In his conversation with Prime Minister Abe, the White House said Trump reiterated the US was ready to defend Japan in the event of any North Korean aggression.
    "The two leaders exchanged views on the growing threat from North Korea, including their unity with respect to increasing pressure on the regime to change its dangerous path," the White House readout said.
    Obama on North Korea: 'It's a hard problem'
    As Trump was speaking with Xi and Abe, his predecessor, former US President Barack Obama, was speaking in South Korea about the difficulties of dealing with North Korea.
    Two different leaders, one common problem
    Two different leaders, one common problem
    Two different leaders, one common problem

    Two different leaders, one common problem 02:15
    "The first thing to stipulate is this is hard, it's a hard problem," Obama said during remarks at the Asian Leadership Conference in Seoul.
    "In North Korea you have a government that is unmatched in its repression of its people ... You have a young man who is only interested in maintaining power and is willing to do anything to sustain that."
    Obama said North Korea's future prosperity would not come "from the pursuit of nuclear weapons."
    "The future belongs to those who build, not those who are committed to destroy... so long as it remains outside of the world order, they should face consequences."

    CNN's Serenitie Wang contributed to this report


    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/03/world/asia/trump-xi-jinping-china-north-korea.html




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  12. war is best form of peace

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    World must revert to correct system that is reversed of the modern civilization's Great Mistake.

    Leaders must not Pamper citizens and must Force them to Fight Till Death against Enemies, so that as many deaths are possible to keep Global Population small enough to survive on the remaining resources on this planet.

    Military is NOT for protection of citizens, but to Eliminate Enemy as much as possible and Eliminate Citizens if they rebel. All the Stronger must not Protect the Weaker unless are own family, Stronger should as much as possible Eliminate every Weaker, everyone must be in a constant struggle of survival, no security nor protection nor assurance from any govt nor state nor society nor UN. World is not for economy nor business, world is for elimination and survival. Money should be made VOID and only raw resources and combat forces are assets, no intermediate medium such as money can be in control of resources and combat forces, so that only the Absolutely Strong can be in control. Money gives controls to the weaker, this is where whole world began to go badly wrong. Why pamper the weak or protect them and let them enjoy resources, when there is actually no unlimited resources in the world? Just Eliminate them ASAP, not to let them squander away resources!


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...e7b026-5f93-11e7-a6c7-f769fa1d5691_story.html



    China vows to step up air and sea patrols after U.S. warship sails near disputed island


    In this April 2017 file photo, an airstrip, structures and buildings on China's man-made Subi Reef in the Spratly chain of islands in the South China Sea are seen from a Philippine Air Force C-130 transport plane. (Bullit Marquez/AP)
    By Simon Denyer and Thomas Gibbons-Neff July 3 at 7:10 AM

    BEIJING — China’s military vowed Monday to step up air and sea patrols after an American warship sailed near a disputed island in the South China Sea in what Beijing called a “serious political and military provocation.”

    Meanwhile, Chinese President Xi Jinping complained to his American counterpart President Trump about “negative factors” undermining relations between the two countries.

    The past few days have seen a dramatic downturn in relations between the two sides, after the United States announced its intention to sell arms to Taiwan and sanction a Chinese bank doing business with North Korea.

    Then, on Sunday, the USS Stethem, an American guided-missile destroyer, sailed within 12 nautical miles of Triton Island, a small landmass in the Paracel Islands chain claimed and controlled by China, a U.S. defense official said. The Stethem’s route marked the second such operation since Trump took office.

    The Paracels are among a group of islands and atolls in the South China Sea at the heart of ongoing tensions in Southeast Asia. China claims full sovereignty over the sea and has built fully functional military facilities complete with airfields and antiaircraft defenses on some island chains.

    The White House, in both the Obama and Trump administrations, has seen the militarization of the South China Sea as a threat to stability in the resource-rich region, where ships from numerous countries have long fished.

    [China to U.S.: New military sales to Taiwan “wrong moves”]

    China’s defense ministry said the United States had “seriously damaged strategic mutual trust” between the two countries by entering what it claimed were China’s territorial waters, while the country’s foreign ministry accused the United States of staging a “serious political and military provocation.”

    The incident came just hours before Trump spoke by telephone to Xi — on Sunday night in Washington, Monday morning in Beijing.

    During the call, Trump “raised the growing threat posed by North Korea’s nuclear and ballistic missile programs,” the White House said in a statement. Trump earlier spoke by telephone to Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe on the same subject.

    But Xi also took the opportunity of the call to make his feelings known, requesting the United States “handle the Taiwan issue appropriately,” according to a Chinese statement.

    U.S.-China relations appeared to be on an upswing after Trump said he and Xi had enjoyed “great chemistry” at a meeting in Florida in April.

    At the time, Trump expressed confidence in China’s efforts to apply pressure on North Korea to end its nuclear and missile defense program. But officials say frustration has grown in the White House with China’s reluctance to tighten the screws on Pyongyang as much as Washington would have liked.

    Xi said bilateral relations have achieved some “important results” since the two men met at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort, but noted that they have since been affected by some “negative factors.”

    “Xi stressed that both China and the United States need to control the general direction of the bilateral relationship in light of the consensus reached at the Mar-a-Lago summit,” China’s government said.

    Neither statement mentioned the tensions over the South China Sea.

    U.S. officials said the navy’s action, known as a freedom-of-navigation operation, or FONOP, was planned in advance, and was not targeted at any one country, nor aimed at making a political statement.

    [Opinion: Chinese-U. S. honeymoon is over]

    But China accused the United States of deliberately stirring up trouble in the South China Sea and staging “provocative operations” that violate China's sovereignty and threaten its security.

    China, which has enjoyed de facto control of the Paracels since expelling Vietnam in a military engagement in 1974, said the islands, which it calls the Xisha, are an “inherent part of Chinese territory.”

    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs said the Stethem had “trespassed” there, entering the waters “without China’s approval” and committed “a serious political and military provocation.”

    Wu Qian, a spokesman for Ministry of National Defense said the United States had “refused to mend its ways despite repeated criticisms.”

    He said the American action had seriously damaged strategic mutual trust and military relations between the two sides, seriously endangered the safety of front-line officers and soldiers from both sides, and had seriously undermined regional peace and stability.

    “The Chinese army will strengthen its defense capacity, increase the intensity of its sea and air patrols, and firmly defend national sovereignty and security, according to the extent of the threat that its national security is facing,” he said in a statement.

    Triton Island is claimed by China, Vietnam and Taiwan. In May, a U.S. destroyer sailed well within 12 miles of Mischief Reef, a man-made island in the Spratly Islands to the south of the Paracels.

    Fox News, which first reported on Sunday’s incident, said a Chinese warship tailed the Stethem as it sailed past the island, although it is unclear how close the ship came to the American vessel.

    [Satellite images show reinforced Chinese missile sites near disputed islands]

    The 12-mile line is the internationally recognized distance that separates the shores of a sovereign nation from international waters. The United States has routinely conducted voyages within this 12-mile limit around islands in the South China Sea as a message to countries such as China, Taiwan, Vietnam and the Philippines.

    Many of these nations have laid claim to islands in the South China Sea, some of which are no more than tiny strips of sand and reef. The last time the U.S. Navy sailed near Triton Island was in January 2016, when the USS Curtis Wilbur came within 12 miles of its shores. The Pentagon did not notify any of the island’s claimants before that operation.

    Capt. Charlie Brown, a spokesman for the U.S. Navy Pacific Fleet, did not confirm the Sunday operation, but said in an emailed statement that the Navy routinely conducts FONOPs, and that the operations are not “about any one country, nor are they about making political statements.”

    “U.S. forces operate in the Indo-Asia-Pacific region on a daily basis, including in the South China Sea,” Brown said. “All operations are conducted in accordance with international law and demonstrate that the United States will fly, sail, and operate wherever international law allows. That is true in the South China Sea as in other places around the globe.”

    The Stethem, an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer, is based in Japan.

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    11 mind his own country lah... small country cannot interfere in superpower fight. my fatty kim willing to take donald fuck trump one on one in cage match anywhere in pyongyang n beat him to a pulp n winner gets to grab the case of nuclear code to have powder to start WW3.
     
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    Chinkland's navy and airforce is only good for harassing viet and pinoy fishermen. Totally useless against a decent enemy like us sinkies, the US or Japan. Little wonder why BG George Yeo dared to stare down the chink diplomat who tried to threaten singapore.
     
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    in the end, BarelyGay Yeo have to go, why? cantonese say not enough pok right... talk everyone can talk, but backside kena poke liaoz he no more virgin, gay loong gave up on him.
     
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    Georgie boy is now sucking Chinese cocks in greater Tiongkok
     
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    Only in the metaphorical sense.

    In the literal sense, lots of chinks here are sucking sinkie dick. Haven't you been reading the papers of our good police smashing vice syndicates and brothels masquerading as massage parlours?
     
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    Why our Rear Admirals not advising the US?
     
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    your foreign policy measures are luke warm, cuntly and cowardly….US should station 50 of their finest nukes on taiwan island….the chinks will be pissing themselves in no time.
     
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    Ng Yat Chung would make a fine adviser. He's an army general who also has lots of naval expertise in leading large blue water ships. Given his looks, I have on good authority that most of the north koreans would be afraid of him.

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