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US solid state battery on motorbike.
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**Yes, the core claim in the video is based on a real announcement**, but it's **heavily hyped** and should be viewed with caution until independent verification in Q1 2026.
### The Truth Behind the Claim
Donut Lab (a Finnish startup, partnered with Verge Motorcycles) announced at **CES 2026** (January 2026) what they call the **world's first production-ready all-solid-state battery**. Key specs they claim:
- Energy density: **400 Wh/kg** (double current top Li-ion packs).
- Full charge in **5 minutes** (no taper at 80%).
- Cycle life: Up to **100,000 cycles**.
- Temperature resilience: 99% capacity from -30°C to +100°C, no fire risk.
- Cheaper and greener materials (no rare elements).
- Already in production at gigawatt-hour scale, powering 2026 Verge Motorcycles (TS Pro/Ultra models shipping Q1 2026).
This is presented as a massive breakthrough, "changing everything" for EVs.
### How True Is It?
- **Real Announcement**: Yes—covered by reputable outlets like CNET, Top Gear, InsideEVs, Interesting Engineering, and BatteryTechOnline. Donut Lab has a press release and CES demo; Verge confirms integration for Q1 2026 deliveries.
- **Production & Deployment**: It's starting small (electric motorcycles first, not cars)—Verge bikes are niche/high-end, low-volume. No mass car adoption yet (though Donut claims interest from 200+ OEMs).
- **Skepticism & Caveats**:
- Claims (400 Wh/kg, 5-min full charge, 100,000 cycles) are **extraordinary**—exceeding current industry leaders (e.g., best Li-ion ~300 Wh/kg, ~5,000 cycles).
- No independent lab tests or peer-reviewed data released yet—relies on company statements.
- History of solid-state hype: Many "breakthroughs" (Toyota, QuantumScape) delayed for years due to scaling/manufacturing challenges.
- Some analysts/YouTubers (e.g., Ziroth) question if it's true all-solid-state or hybrid/semi-solid; lack of material details fuels doubt.
It's **promising and exciting** if verified (Q1 2026 deliveries will be the test), but not yet "changes everything"—more like an early milestone in a field full of bold promises. Wait for real-world reviews before believing the full hype.
------------------ Source: Grok AI
### The Truth Behind the Claim
Donut Lab (a Finnish startup, partnered with Verge Motorcycles) announced at **CES 2026** (January 2026) what they call the **world's first production-ready all-solid-state battery**. Key specs they claim:
- Energy density: **400 Wh/kg** (double current top Li-ion packs).
- Full charge in **5 minutes** (no taper at 80%).
- Cycle life: Up to **100,000 cycles**.
- Temperature resilience: 99% capacity from -30°C to +100°C, no fire risk.
- Cheaper and greener materials (no rare elements).
- Already in production at gigawatt-hour scale, powering 2026 Verge Motorcycles (TS Pro/Ultra models shipping Q1 2026).
This is presented as a massive breakthrough, "changing everything" for EVs.
### How True Is It?
- **Real Announcement**: Yes—covered by reputable outlets like CNET, Top Gear, InsideEVs, Interesting Engineering, and BatteryTechOnline. Donut Lab has a press release and CES demo; Verge confirms integration for Q1 2026 deliveries.
- **Production & Deployment**: It's starting small (electric motorcycles first, not cars)—Verge bikes are niche/high-end, low-volume. No mass car adoption yet (though Donut claims interest from 200+ OEMs).
- **Skepticism & Caveats**:
- Claims (400 Wh/kg, 5-min full charge, 100,000 cycles) are **extraordinary**—exceeding current industry leaders (e.g., best Li-ion ~300 Wh/kg, ~5,000 cycles).
- No independent lab tests or peer-reviewed data released yet—relies on company statements.
- History of solid-state hype: Many "breakthroughs" (Toyota, QuantumScape) delayed for years due to scaling/manufacturing challenges.
- Some analysts/YouTubers (e.g., Ziroth) question if it's true all-solid-state or hybrid/semi-solid; lack of material details fuels doubt.
It's **promising and exciting** if verified (Q1 2026 deliveries will be the test), but not yet "changes everything"—more like an early milestone in a field full of bold promises. Wait for real-world reviews before believing the full hype.
------------------ Source: Grok AI
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Grok is jealous its not powering tesla cars.
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