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【Yahoo論壇】馬英九若再選總統 承受得住嗎？
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140 人追蹤
政事觀察站2018年5月13日 上午8:53
圖片來源：中央社
讀者投書：曾德榮（桃園市民）
你認同嗎？
馬英九最近成了媒體寵兒，許多人勸進，希望他再次參選總統，其中包含了陳樹菊女士，你認同嗎？
依個人觀點：馬英九頂著哈佛博士高學歷，經歷過公職與八年北市長歷練，曾經有過高人氣且於2008獲選民託付兩任八年總統，全面執政時期，原有機會改變政局，可惜，因為「恃才傲物，理念太重、格局太小」，以為自許「全民總統」、高?「清廉大犢」就足以治國，完全輕忽同黨利益與三教九流的感情交流，立法院又被王金平長期把持，加上民進黨的胡纏亂打，致令出不了府，凡事「一籌莫展」，除了讓自己成了全民公敵外，還徹底拖垮了國民黨，馬英九這位迂腐到能讓藍營厭惡到寧願自廢武功、棄械投降的前總統，如今，何德何能的再度被呼擁？是因為民進黨兩年的狂妄與胡作非為，讓國人開始懷念馬英九的痴愚守規嗎？問題，國民黨有因政局墮落而有轉機嗎？馬英九有因為民進黨的胡整覺醒了嗎？國人有因為民進黨的猖狂準備制裁了嗎？馬英九再次上場能改變什麼？
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學生：讀一點書，懂一些小知識，透過網路片段、看懶人包，就以為盡知天下事，對全程、全景、他人觀點均不屑一顧，未能對父母盡孝、對家庭盡責，亦未對社會有所供獻，動輒以正義之師衝撞法制，那種狂妄、無知行逕，還自以為是英雄，更甚者，一群盲從者在政客調教、輿論的推波助瀾下，讓猖狂更是無限上綱，溫良恭檢讓的馬英九能掌控得了嗎？。
選民：現在的民主就是民進黨做主，愛台灣就是愛民進黨認同的台灣價值，至於台灣陷入藍綠、族群、階級、世代鬥爭、政經發展停滯不前等均非選民關注的大事，現階段選民要的是腥羶大戲，猶如台灣的本土劇，鎮日呈現背離事實、勾心鬥角、逞兇鬥狠、傷風敗俗，使壞目標甚至指向家人、朋友、職場、情敵、政敵，那種「不耍狠」不足以出頭的手法令人不寒而慄，什麼是國人的生活價值觀？在政客與導演、編劇惟恐天下不亂之下，「有恃無恐」的一再重演，溫良恭檢讓的馬英九有能力轉換過來嗎？
立法院：在王金平十餘年的把持下，立委諸公明裡是為民服務，暗裡則是坐室分贓，沆瀣一氣，朋比為奸，委員在殿堂上以扒糞掀臭、謾罵羞辱為能事，視國事如草芥、視官員如禁臠，予取予求，現立院民進黨的多數，更讓國會亂象發揮到淋漓盡致，溫良恭檢讓的馬英九在國會擁有絕對多數時放任無解，如今又能如何？
輿論：誰人不知傳媒善以聳動標題，達成聚焦，藉腥羶話語推波助瀾，博取版面，萬年本土劇為炒熱收視率常以低俗手法，鎮日毀損生活價值觀為樂事，至於「名嘴之流」亦少思正義公理，習以偏私、妄言，製造對立，這些禍端已成加速台灣沉淪的最大亂源，請問，溫良恭檢讓的馬英九能讓天下不亂的媒體人更謹言慎行嗎？
國民黨：檯面上的連戰、馬英九、朱立倫、洪秀柱、吳敦義等歷任黨主席，除了馬英九參選未嚐敗績外，其他的都是輔選或參選的輸家，不要說勇於承擔，連表態都是虛的，現黨員士氣低盪谷底，少席次的黨籍立委也無力守成與攻堅，各層級接班人青黃不接，前途乖舛，如今，民進黨失政產生的民怨，也不能轉為國民黨的動力，黨產會又困住國民黨，溫良恭檢讓的馬英九在當黨主席時對黨「利用多於經營」的偏見，如今國民黨會讓他回鍋重操舊業嗎？就算回任又能改變多少？
民進黨：剛獲政權，尚未盡興，死忠同志絕不會自承失政，讓在野黨趁虛而入，依過往堅固的基本盤與卓越的選戰技倆，馬英九上陣前，早被鬥得體無完膚，溫良恭檢讓的馬英九承受得住嗎？
台灣有不同族群、不同信仰、不同政黨、不同階級、不同行業、不同世代等差異，但處於政治操控環境，我仍相信眾多人是愛這個土地，努力為台灣的未來付出，可惜，一直有生意人、政客、官員，為謀奪金錢、利益、權勢，無不費盡心思、用盡手段，致純樸的一群在這些投機份子操弄下，成了被玩弄的棋子猶不自知，許多人就因為看穿政治的腐敗，期待清流，馬英九不是梟雄，也非能臣，但在此污垢的環境下，難免出現傻人傻念，以為具有溫良恭檢讓的傻人可解困境，簡直是痴人說夢，無助於政局。
台灣第一人，35歲的他任教「愛因斯坦母校」
柯P中計淪為「柯傻」
勞基法修惡 那就公投修回來！
柯P傻瓜，誰聰明？
不想讓女兒複製人生 這位母親選擇了離家
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[Yahoo Forum] If Ma Ying-jeou chooses another president, can it withstand it?
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Political Observatory May 13, 2018 8:53 AM
Picture Source: Central News Agency
Reader's Book: Zeng Derong (Taoyuan Citizen)
Do you agree?
Ma Ying-jeou has recently become the darling of the media. Many people are persuaded. He hopes that he will run for president again. It includes Ms. Chen Shuju. Do you agree?
From a personal point of view: Ma Ying-jeou, with a high degree in education under Dr. Harvard, has experienced public office and eight years of experience as the mayor of the North. He once had too much popularity and was entrusted by the electorate in 2008 to serve two presidents for eight years. During the period of full-time administration, the original chance to change the political situation was a pity. Because "it is a pride and awe, the concept is too heavy, and the pattern is too small," we believe that the "president of all peoples" and the "incorruptible office" are enough to govern the country. They completely neglect the emotional exchanges between the interests of the same party and the three religions, and the Legislative Yuan has been held by Wang Jinping for a long time. In addition to the DPP’s indiscriminate fighting, it was impossible to make a government. Everything was “absolutely helpless.” Apart from making itself an enemy of the entire people, it also completely dragged down the Kuomintang. Ma Ying-jeou’s corruption was enough to make the Blue Camp disgusted. The former president who would rather self-defeating and surrendering his weaponry has now been re-emerged. Is it because the Democratic Progressive Party's two years of arrogance and misbehaving, let the people begin to miss Ma Ying-jeou's ignorance? Regarding the issue, has the KMT had a turn for the worse because of the political situation? Did Ma Ying-jeou awaken because of the DPP's Hu Chung? Did the people of the country prepare for sanctions because of the DPP’s rampage? What can Ma Ying-jeou play when he is on the court again?
Looking around:
Students: After reading a bit of books, knowing some little knowledge, and using internet snippets and lazy bags, they think that they know everything about the world and are dismissive of the whole process, the panorama, and other people’s views. They have not been able to perform filial piety on their parents and do their duty to families. Nor has there been a contribution to the society, and the use of a righteous division has rushed against the rule of law. The arrogant and ignorant acts are also self-righteous heroes. What is worse, a group of blind followers have helped limit madness even more with the aid of politicians and public opinion. Can Gang Ying-jeong, Wen Lianggong's seizure, have control over it? .
Voters: Democracy now is the leader of the Democratic Progressive Party, and love for Taiwan is the value of Taiwan that the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) recognizes. As for Taiwan’s involvement in blue and green, ethnic groups, classes, struggles for generations, stagnant political and economic development, etc. What voters want at this stage is a big show. Like Taiwan's local drama, the town has shown its departure from facts, infighting, arrogance, squabbles, and persecution, making the bad target even point to family, friends, workplaces, rivals, and political enemies. The tactics that are not enough to show off are chilling. What are the values of life for the people? As politicians, directors, and screenwriters feared that the world would not be rebelled, "Are there no fear?" Repeatedly repeated by Wen Yinggong, Ma Ying-jeou had the ability to convert it?
The Legislative Yuan: Under the control of Wang Jinping for more than ten years, the legislators of Gongmingli serve the people. The secret is the delivery of concubines. They are insane, and they are guilty of betrayal. Members of the legislature can use the excrement to stench and stigmatize in the palace. If the state affairs are slovenly and if officials are imprisoned and asked for permission, the majority of the Democratic Progressive Party in the Legislative Yuan has made the chaos in Congress even more vivid. When Ma Ying-jeou, Wen Lianggong’s seizure, has no solution to the absolute majority of the Congress, what can it do now?
Public opinion: Who does not know that the media is good at stimulating headlines, reaching a focused point of view and boosting the use of discourse to boost the popularity of forums. Local TV dramas often use low-sounding methods for spectatorships, and towns and villages damage life values as pleasures. We must also think less about justice and justice, and use habits and rumors to create confrontation. These scourges have become the biggest source of insult to speed up Taiwan's death. May I ask Ma Ying-jeou of Wen Lianggong's seizure to make people in the world more cautious?
The KMT: Lien Chan, Ma Yingjiu, Zhu Lilun, Hong Xiuzhu, Wu Dunyi and other party chairpersons on the table. Except for Ma Ying-jeou's no-failure in the election, the others are losers in the election or election. Don’t say that they are brave enough to bear the burden. Even the position is false. The party members are low morale, and the party committee legislators with few seats are also unable to maintain and attack. The successive successors at all levels are not ready for a bright future. Today, the people's discontent caused by the Democratic Progressive Party cannot be turned into a driving force behind the Kuomintang. It will trap the Kuomintang again. When Wen Yinggong seized on the Ma Ying-jeou’s prejudice on the party’s use of more than business when he was the party’s chairman, will the Kuomintang now make him return to the old business? How much can you change even if you return?
The Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) has just won power and has not yet enjoyed its enthusiasm. Comrades of loyalty and loyalty will never commit themselves to political indifference, allowing the opposition parties to come in and get out of trouble. According to the past, a solid basic game and excellent selection tactics, Ma Ying-jeou was beaten before he went into battle. Have you had a perfect skin, and Ma Ying-jeou, a gentleman of Wen Lianggong, can withstand it?
Taiwan has different ethnic groups, different beliefs, different political parties, different classes, different industries, different generations, and other differences, but in a politically manipulated environment, I still believe that many people love this land and strive to pay for the future of Taiwan. Unfortunately, there has been business. People, politicians, and officials are all trying hard to find money, interests, and power. They are trying their best to use all means. The simple group of people who are playing with these speculators are not aware of the many pieces they play. Just because of seeing through the corruption of politics and expecting Qing Liu, Ma Ying-jeou is not an irresponsible and non-essential minister. However, in this foul environment, it is inevitable that stupid people will be stupid, thinking that there is a solvability dilemma for the stupid people who are gentle and conscientious. This is simply an idiotic dream. Does not help the political situation.
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【Yahoo論壇】馬英九若再選總統 承受得住嗎？
讀者投書
140 人追蹤
政事觀察站2018年5月13日 上午8:53
圖片來源：中央社
讀者投書：曾德榮（桃園市民）
你認同嗎？
馬英九最近成了媒體寵兒，許多人勸進，希望他再次參選總統，其中包含了陳樹菊女士，你認同嗎？
依個人觀點：馬英九頂著哈佛博士高學歷，經歷過公職與八年北市長歷練，曾經有過高人氣且於2008獲選民託付兩任八年總統，全面執政時期，原有機會改變政局，可惜，因為「恃才傲物，理念太重、格局太小」，以為自許「全民總統」、高?「清廉大犢」就足以治國，完全輕忽同黨利益與三教九流的感情交流，立法院又被王金平長期把持，加上民進黨的胡纏亂打，致令出不了府，凡事「一籌莫展」，除了讓自己成了全民公敵外，還徹底拖垮了國民黨，馬英九這位迂腐到能讓藍營厭惡到寧願自廢武功、棄械投降的前總統，如今，何德何能的再度被呼擁？是因為民進黨兩年的狂妄與胡作非為，讓國人開始懷念馬英九的痴愚守規嗎？問題，國民黨有因政局墮落而有轉機嗎？馬英九有因為民進黨的胡整覺醒了嗎？國人有因為民進黨的猖狂準備制裁了嗎？馬英九再次上場能改變什麼？
環視周遭：
學生：讀一點書，懂一些小知識，透過網路片段、看懶人包，就以為盡知天下事，對全程、全景、他人觀點均不屑一顧，未能對父母盡孝、對家庭盡責，亦未對社會有所供獻，動輒以正義之師衝撞法制，那種狂妄、無知行逕，還自以為是英雄，更甚者，一群盲從者在政客調教、輿論的推波助瀾下，讓猖狂更是無限上綱，溫良恭檢讓的馬英九能掌控得了嗎？。
選民：現在的民主就是民進黨做主，愛台灣就是愛民進黨認同的台灣價值，至於台灣陷入藍綠、族群、階級、世代鬥爭、政經發展停滯不前等均非選民關注的大事，現階段選民要的是腥羶大戲，猶如台灣的本土劇，鎮日呈現背離事實、勾心鬥角、逞兇鬥狠、傷風敗俗，使壞目標甚至指向家人、朋友、職場、情敵、政敵，那種「不耍狠」不足以出頭的手法令人不寒而慄，什麼是國人的生活價值觀？在政客與導演、編劇惟恐天下不亂之下，「有恃無恐」的一再重演，溫良恭檢讓的馬英九有能力轉換過來嗎？
立法院：在王金平十餘年的把持下，立委諸公明裡是為民服務，暗裡則是坐室分贓，沆瀣一氣，朋比為奸，委員在殿堂上以扒糞掀臭、謾罵羞辱為能事，視國事如草芥、視官員如禁臠，予取予求，現立院民進黨的多數，更讓國會亂象發揮到淋漓盡致，溫良恭檢讓的馬英九在國會擁有絕對多數時放任無解，如今又能如何？
輿論：誰人不知傳媒善以聳動標題，達成聚焦，藉腥羶話語推波助瀾，博取版面，萬年本土劇為炒熱收視率常以低俗手法，鎮日毀損生活價值觀為樂事，至於「名嘴之流」亦少思正義公理，習以偏私、妄言，製造對立，這些禍端已成加速台灣沉淪的最大亂源，請問，溫良恭檢讓的馬英九能讓天下不亂的媒體人更謹言慎行嗎？
國民黨：檯面上的連戰、馬英九、朱立倫、洪秀柱、吳敦義等歷任黨主席，除了馬英九參選未嚐敗績外，其他的都是輔選或參選的輸家，不要說勇於承擔，連表態都是虛的，現黨員士氣低盪谷底，少席次的黨籍立委也無力守成與攻堅，各層級接班人青黃不接，前途乖舛，如今，民進黨失政產生的民怨，也不能轉為國民黨的動力，黨產會又困住國民黨，溫良恭檢讓的馬英九在當黨主席時對黨「利用多於經營」的偏見，如今國民黨會讓他回鍋重操舊業嗎？就算回任又能改變多少？
民進黨：剛獲政權，尚未盡興，死忠同志絕不會自承失政，讓在野黨趁虛而入，依過往堅固的基本盤與卓越的選戰技倆，馬英九上陣前，早被鬥得體無完膚，溫良恭檢讓的馬英九承受得住嗎？
台灣有不同族群、不同信仰、不同政黨、不同階級、不同行業、不同世代等差異，但處於政治操控環境，我仍相信眾多人是愛這個土地，努力為台灣的未來付出，可惜，一直有生意人、政客、官員，為謀奪金錢、利益、權勢，無不費盡心思、用盡手段，致純樸的一群在這些投機份子操弄下，成了被玩弄的棋子猶不自知，許多人就因為看穿政治的腐敗，期待清流，馬英九不是梟雄，也非能臣，但在此污垢的環境下，難免出現傻人傻念，以為具有溫良恭檢讓的傻人可解困境，簡直是痴人說夢，無助於政局。
台灣第一人，35歲的他任教「愛因斯坦母校」
柯P中計淪為「柯傻」
勞基法修惡 那就公投修回來！
柯P傻瓜，誰聰明？
不想讓女兒複製人生 這位母親選擇了離家
________________________
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[Yahoo Forum] If Ma Ying-jeou chooses another president, can it withstand it?
Reader's book
140 people tracking
Political Observatory May 13, 2018 8:53 AM
Picture Source: Central News Agency
Reader's Book: Zeng Derong (Taoyuan Citizen)
Do you agree?
Ma Ying-jeou has recently become the darling of the media. Many people are persuaded. He hopes that he will run for president again. It includes Ms. Chen Shuju. Do you agree?
From a personal point of view: Ma Ying-jeou, with a high degree in education under Dr. Harvard, has experienced public office and eight years of experience as the mayor of the North. He once had too much popularity and was entrusted by the electorate in 2008 to serve two presidents for eight years. During the period of full-time administration, the original chance to change the political situation was a pity. Because "it is a pride and awe, the concept is too heavy, and the pattern is too small," we believe that the "president of all peoples" and the "incorruptible office" are enough to govern the country. They completely neglect the emotional exchanges between the interests of the same party and the three religions, and the Legislative Yuan has been held by Wang Jinping for a long time. In addition to the DPP’s indiscriminate fighting, it was impossible to make a government. Everything was “absolutely helpless.” Apart from making itself an enemy of the entire people, it also completely dragged down the Kuomintang. Ma Ying-jeou’s corruption was enough to make the Blue Camp disgusted. The former president who would rather self-defeating and surrendering his weaponry has now been re-emerged. Is it because the Democratic Progressive Party's two years of arrogance and misbehaving, let the people begin to miss Ma Ying-jeou's ignorance? Regarding the issue, has the KMT had a turn for the worse because of the political situation? Did Ma Ying-jeou awaken because of the DPP's Hu Chung? Did the people of the country prepare for sanctions because of the DPP’s rampage? What can Ma Ying-jeou play when he is on the court again?
Looking around:
Students: After reading a bit of books, knowing some little knowledge, and using internet snippets and lazy bags, they think that they know everything about the world and are dismissive of the whole process, the panorama, and other people’s views. They have not been able to perform filial piety on their parents and do their duty to families. Nor has there been a contribution to the society, and the use of a righteous division has rushed against the rule of law. The arrogant and ignorant acts are also self-righteous heroes. What is worse, a group of blind followers have helped limit madness even more with the aid of politicians and public opinion. Can Gang Ying-jeong, Wen Lianggong's seizure, have control over it? .
Voters: Democracy now is the leader of the Democratic Progressive Party, and love for Taiwan is the value of Taiwan that the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) recognizes. As for Taiwan’s involvement in blue and green, ethnic groups, classes, struggles for generations, stagnant political and economic development, etc. What voters want at this stage is a big show. Like Taiwan's local drama, the town has shown its departure from facts, infighting, arrogance, squabbles, and persecution, making the bad target even point to family, friends, workplaces, rivals, and political enemies. The tactics that are not enough to show off are chilling. What are the values of life for the people? As politicians, directors, and screenwriters feared that the world would not be rebelled, "Are there no fear?" Repeatedly repeated by Wen Yinggong, Ma Ying-jeou had the ability to convert it?
The Legislative Yuan: Under the control of Wang Jinping for more than ten years, the legislators of Gongmingli serve the people. The secret is the delivery of concubines. They are insane, and they are guilty of betrayal. Members of the legislature can use the excrement to stench and stigmatize in the palace. If the state affairs are slovenly and if officials are imprisoned and asked for permission, the majority of the Democratic Progressive Party in the Legislative Yuan has made the chaos in Congress even more vivid. When Ma Ying-jeou, Wen Lianggong’s seizure, has no solution to the absolute majority of the Congress, what can it do now?
Public opinion: Who does not know that the media is good at stimulating headlines, reaching a focused point of view and boosting the use of discourse to boost the popularity of forums. Local TV dramas often use low-sounding methods for spectatorships, and towns and villages damage life values as pleasures. We must also think less about justice and justice, and use habits and rumors to create confrontation. These scourges have become the biggest source of insult to speed up Taiwan's death. May I ask Ma Ying-jeou of Wen Lianggong's seizure to make people in the world more cautious?
The KMT: Lien Chan, Ma Yingjiu, Zhu Lilun, Hong Xiuzhu, Wu Dunyi and other party chairpersons on the table. Except for Ma Ying-jeou's no-failure in the election, the others are losers in the election or election. Don’t say that they are brave enough to bear the burden. Even the position is false. The party members are low morale, and the party committee legislators with few seats are also unable to maintain and attack. The successive successors at all levels are not ready for a bright future. Today, the people's discontent caused by the Democratic Progressive Party cannot be turned into a driving force behind the Kuomintang. It will trap the Kuomintang again. When Wen Yinggong seized on the Ma Ying-jeou’s prejudice on the party’s use of more than business when he was the party’s chairman, will the Kuomintang now make him return to the old business? How much can you change even if you return?
The Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) has just won power and has not yet enjoyed its enthusiasm. Comrades of loyalty and loyalty will never commit themselves to political indifference, allowing the opposition parties to come in and get out of trouble. According to the past, a solid basic game and excellent selection tactics, Ma Ying-jeou was beaten before he went into battle. Have you had a perfect skin, and Ma Ying-jeou, a gentleman of Wen Lianggong, can withstand it?
Taiwan has different ethnic groups, different beliefs, different political parties, different classes, different industries, different generations, and other differences, but in a politically manipulated environment, I still believe that many people love this land and strive to pay for the future of Taiwan. Unfortunately, there has been business. People, politicians, and officials are all trying hard to find money, interests, and power. They are trying their best to use all means. The simple group of people who are playing with these speculators are not aware of the many pieces they play. Just because of seeing through the corruption of politics and expecting Qing Liu, Ma Ying-jeou is not an irresponsible and non-essential minister. However, in this foul environment, it is inevitable that stupid people will be stupid, thinking that there is a solvability dilemma for the stupid people who are gentle and conscientious. This is simply an idiotic dream. Does not help the political situation.
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