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Tomorrow Xijinping should force Dotard to commit suicide & lost Elections, Cancel all talks, Initiate Huge Tariff and Sanctions on USA!

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Biggest of all Weakness of Dotard Ang Moh Trump is Ego.

Most vulnerable and inevitable the entire Dotard in his entire life is Hijacked and Kidnapped by his OWN EGO, no escape! Never!

No ransom as well!

Everyone knows this. Too fucking obvious!

To defeat Dotard, just calculate on his ego and drive him accordingly. And do it right you can indeed literally force him to suicide and corner him to no-return final endings. You can design and plot to finish entire USA using this.

Dotard already trapped USA and himself into a dead-end cornered and can never come out. This is too obvious. USA lost all allies and friends. USA is no longer trusted and counted on by anyone, even the last idiot also had been forced to abandon USA. All pissed of and betrayed by Dotard, shocked and surprised and driven mad by Dotard. They are sick and tired of Dotard won't tolerate Dotard any further. USA is a burden and source of crisis for entire world, this is beyond doubt for entire UN and all members + non-members e.g. Taiwan.

Dotard is obviously a Con-Man Crook and Bull-Shitter LIAR big time. And he is most famous for self-contradiction flip-flop U-turn and switching drastically and ABSOLUTELY ZERO RELIANCE.

The entire scenario of MAGA DOTARD is excellent opportunity for China & Xijinping.

Polling is starting in USA. Make Dotard lost face drive him mad and go absolutely crazy and drastic, the whole election will go against Dotard, he will not be able to exert any self-control, just provoke him like a dumb puppy, the reaction is very very predictable.

Cancel all the talks with USA! Initiate Chinese sanction and Tariff on USA massively! Get Dotard to suck on it, and make the world see that it is a move caused by Dotard's aggressive stupid brainless trade wars. Justify it by sticking Dotard's name on it. Call this 回应川普的措施 Measure In Reply To Dotard, or 惩罚川普措施 Dotard Punishment Measures!

If WW3 occurred USA will surely fall from ex-superpower to disintegrated fragmented self-fighting civil-war states and end up close to wild-wild-west all the hidden problems and crisis within USA for centuries will erupt, ethic, religion, debts, drugs, crimes, hatred, feud, infrastructure, security, loyalty, migrants, gangs, sloppiness, laze, stupidity, selfishness, cowardice, greed.... the whole hell will surface in USA. Shit will spill to US neighbors & suckers close to USA, e.g. Pee Sai!

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Trump admits Republicans can lose the House
By Maegan Vazquez, CNN

Updated 2148 GMT (0548 HKT) November 2, 2018




Poll: 6 House races move toward Democrats


(CNN)President Donald Trump during his campaign rally in West Virginia admitted that Democrats could take the House.
"If Chuck Schumer, cryin' Chuck, and Nancy Pelosi, and the legendary Maxine Waters take power they will try to erase our gains and eradicate our progress," Trump said.
"We will be fighting. It will be ridiculous, frankly. It will be bad for the country," he continued. "The Democrats -- and it could happen. Could happen. We're doing very well, and we're doing really well in the Senate. But it could happen, and you know what you do?
"My whole life, you know what I say? Don't worry about it. Just figure it out. Does that make sense? I'll just figure it out."
On Wednesday, the President told reporters ahead of a campaign event that Republicans are "doing well in the Senate and it looks like we're doing OK in the House. We're going to have to see."
Pressed on the matter, he attempted to soften his initial take, saying, "I think we're going to do well in the House. We're doing, really, extraordinarily well in the Senate."
According to CNN's latest midterm elections forecast, Democrats will win 226 House seats (and the House majority) while Republicans will win just 209 seats. A Democratic win of 203 seats and 262 seats is within the margin of error.



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China to Dotard: Fuck you with Iran Sanctions - WE WILL NOT STOP BUYING IRANIAN OIL! Dotard Lan-Lan! Sanction your own fucking lame ass!



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美帝认怂了:继中国表示购买伊朗石油后,8国豁免名单正式出炉!

2018-11-04 20:00 中国 /美国 /伊朗

来源:天涯时事

作者:天涯补刀​

今年5月份的时候,特朗普宣布将对伊朗进行制裁,要将伊朗石油出口量将至为0,11月5日就是美国对伊朗制裁的最后期限。

按照特朗普的说法,如果在11月5日之后还有国家从伊朗购买石油,那么就会被美国制裁。

然而,在10月30日的时候,中国和印度明确表态:中国和印度将无视美国的制裁,继续从伊朗购买石油。

前两天的文中我们给大家分析了,如果没有中国政府的配合,那么中国有无数种方法避开美国的制裁,继续购买伊朗的石油。

比如,让外国的能源企业购买伊朗的石油,然后转卖给中国;成立皮包公司,直接购买伊朗的石油;不通过银行结算,开展现金交易;伊朗石油加入人民币计价的石油期货等。

事实上,我们在前两天的文中也给大家分析了,中国已经从美国制裁伊朗的事件中获得了很多的好处。

比如,美国为了制裁伊朗,法国的道达尔公司已经退出了伊朗的南帕尔斯天然气项目,中石油已接管道达尔在伊朗南帕尔斯天然气项目中的份额,持股从原来的30%增至80.1%——此前法国持股50.1%,中石油持股30%,伊朗持股19.9%。

比如,在10月份伊朗国家油运公司赶在禁令到来之前,向中国大连港运送2000多万桶廉价的石油——赶上以前从伊朗进口一年的石油量。

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有人问:法国道达尔公司害怕美国制裁从伊朗撤出了,中国石油为何敢接手?难道中国石油不怕美国的制裁?

这个问题是很多人在留言中的提到的问题,当时我没有想到大家对这个问题有这么大的疑惑,所有我们先给大家回答这个问题。

首先我们要说明的是:美国是这个世界上最强大的国家,美国是唯一的超级大国,美国也确实拥有美元霸权,但是美国不是这个地球的主人。所以,即使美国制裁一个国家,那么也需要理由,否则它将失去道义,会让自己孤立于世界,直至最终失去超级大国的地位。

可以说,伊朗和美国有矛盾,但是那个只是伊朗和美国之间的矛盾,你美国怎么制裁伊朗都没有关系,但是伊朗并没有违背国际法,所以美国没有理由要求世界上其它国家跟着美国制裁伊朗,包括中国。

美国和伊朗之间有龌龊,那是他们之间的事情,和我们中国的企业无关,中国石油接手法国道达尔公司的股权并不违背国际法。

或许有人会问:既然不违背国际法,法国道达尔公司为何要从伊朗撤出呢?

这个问题就涉及到美国的制裁方式了。

美国的经济制裁主要包括两个方面:

第一,国内制裁;

第二,国际制裁。

所谓的“国内制裁”就是指任何在美国的外国企业或公司必须遵守美国的法律(就像任何在中国的外国企业必须遵守中国的法律一样),如果违背美国的法律,那么就会被美国制裁,包括冻结其在美国的业务和资产。

法国的道达尔公司是一个世界性能源公司,是全世界第四大石油及天然气公司,业务遍及120余国家,道达尔在美国的资产高达100亿美元,90%的金融业务依赖美国银行,所以如果美国对道达尔公司进行制裁,那么道达尔公司在美国的市场就会受到极大的影响。

中国石油也是一个世界性的大公司,在中东、非洲、拉美等地区也有很多的业务,但是在美国并没有什么业务。

原本,中国石油还能从美国进口一点石油,但是由于美国发动和中国的贸易战,现在中国从美国进口石油和天然气的业务已经完全中断,所以中国石油接手道达尔公司的股权,美国根据“国内法”根本制裁不到中国石油。

所谓的“国际制裁”就是指任何违背国际法的国家,那么将会被全世界经济制裁。那时,经过联合国授权,美国就可以对任何和违背国际法的国家进行经济制裁。比如冻结任何和伊朗做生意的企业的美元结算业务、冻结其在美国和世界的资产。

上世纪50年代,伊朗开始了核能源开发活动,所以联合国安理会通过"史上最严厉"制裁伊朗方案。

注意,在这个过程中,中国被迫投了赞成票,这个是没有办法的事情,因为那个时候伊朗确实在研究核武器。

美国为何能够制裁中兴啊?

就是因为中兴公司在伊朗违背国际法的时候还在和伊朗做生意。

做生意也就罢了,但是偏偏被美国发现了,所以中兴被制裁其实只能怪自己的保密工作做的不好。

但是,在2015年7月20日,联合国安理会通过决议,伊朗承诺放弃核武器的研究,世界也同意解除对伊朗的制裁。

直到今天,伊朗一直在遵守承诺,没有继续开展核武器的研究,所以美国没有任何理由要求国际上经济制裁伊朗,除非再经过联合国安理会投票决议——那个显然不可能得到通过的,因为伊朗并没有违背国际法,所以中国和俄罗斯一定会投反对票的。

也就是说:如果美国要对伊朗进行经济制裁,那么只能通过国内法制裁伊朗,并不能通过国际法制裁伊朗。世界各国在美国做生意,那么要遵守美国的法律,如果在美国没有生意,那么则没有必要遵守美国的国内法,美国也没有理由对相关公司进行国际制裁。

这就是我们经常在新闻里看到的一句话:中方反对有关国家依据自己的国内法对其他国家进行所谓的“长臂管辖”。

我相信分析到这,大家就会彻底明白法国道达尔公司为什么要退出伊朗,中国石油为什么敢接下道达尔公司的股份了。

其根本原因是:法国道达尔公司在美国有很多业务,如果和伊朗有生意,那么在美国的业务将受到重大的影响,中国石油在美国没有业务,所以即使和伊朗做生意,也不会受到什么影响,美国并没有理由对中国石油进行国际制裁。

那么,既然如此,中国石油和中国石化为何暂停11月份从伊朗进口石油呢?

理由很简单:防止特朗普这个疯子“狗急跳墙”。

要是美国真TMD丧失理智了,利用美元霸权对中国石油和中国石化进行国际制裁,冻结其美元结算业务,那么中国将无法从沙特等国家进口石油,那不就操蛋了?

所以,中国石油和中国石化还是暂时避下风头,反正有很多种方法从伊朗进口石油。

当然了,要是美国真那么做了,那么美元霸权也到尽头了,世界上任何国家将不再敢利用美元交易——否则随时都可能被美国经济制裁。

我们必须承认,到目前为止,美元的信用还是可以的,美国并没有利用美元霸权对任何一个未违背国际法的国家进行国际制裁——比如欧美对俄罗斯进行了经济制裁,但是中国就继续和俄罗斯在做生意。

伊朗没有违背国际法,所以中国和印度说继续从伊朗购买石油是没有任何问题的,美国也没有办法利用国际法制裁中国和印度,而11月5日的最后期限就要到了,如果美国无法阻止中国和印度进口石油,那么会对美国的国际声誉有很大的影响。

所以,我们今天看到一则新闻:据美联社2日报道,美国国务卿蓬佩奥当天宣布,美国将给予8个国家伊朗制裁豁免权,允许他们继续进口伊朗石油。

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彭博社援引两名熟悉中美谈判的消息人士的话称,已经确定的4个国家是中国、印度、日本和韩国,其他4个国家是谁尚不清楚。

其实说白了:美国只是给自己一个台阶下,即使美国不豁免中国、印度,那么中国和印度也会继续从伊朗购买石油,美国并没有办法,那时只会打自己的脸。

从这件事我们又可以看出,任何跟着美国混的国家都不会有什么好处!

法国跟着美国混,丢掉了伊朗气田的绝对控股权;日韩跟着美国混,停止了从伊朗购买廉价油气的业务,即使再回去了,伊朗能不能给它们低价也得另说。

这也说明,美帝看似强大,但是确实是一只“纸老虎”。

正如毛主席所说:一切帝国主义和反动派都是纸老虎!

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The US emperor recognized: After China said that it bought Iranian oil, the list of eight countries was officially released!
2018-11-04 20:00
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Author: End of the World up a knife

In May of this year, Trump announced that he would impose sanctions on Iran to export Iranian oil to zero. November 5 is the deadline for US sanctions against Iran.

According to Trump, if the country buys oil from Iran after November 5, it will be sanctioned by the United States.

However, on October 30, China and India made it clear that China and India would ignore US sanctions and continue to buy oil from Iran.

In the previous two days, we analyzed for everyone. Without the cooperation of the Chinese government, there are countless ways for China to avoid US sanctions and continue to purchase Iranian oil.

For example, let foreign energy companies buy Iranian oil, then resell it to China; set up a leather bag company to directly buy Iranian oil; do not make bank transactions through bank settlement; Iranian oil joins RMB-denominated oil futures.

In fact, we also analyzed the articles in the previous two days. China has already gained a lot of benefits from the US sanctions against Iran.

For example, in order to sanction the United States, the French company Total has already withdrawn from Iran’s South Pars gas project. PetroChina has taken over the share of Piper’s natural gas project in Iran’s South Pars, and its shareholding has increased from 30%. 80.1% - Previously France held 50.1%, PetroChina held 30%, and Iran held 19.9%.

For example, in October, the Iranian National Oil Transportation Company shipped more than 20 million barrels of cheap oil to China's Dalian Port before the ban - catching up with the amount of oil that was previously imported from Iran for a year.

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Someone asked: France's Total company is afraid that US sanctions will be withdrawn from Iran. Why does PetroChina dare to take over? Isn’t China Petroleum not afraid of US sanctions?

This question is a question that many people mentioned in the message. At that time, I did not think that everyone had such a big doubt about this issue. We will answer this question first.

First of all, we must explain that the United States is the most powerful country in the world, the United States is the only superpower, and the United States does have dollar hegemony, but the United States is not the master of this planet. Therefore, even if the United States sanctions a country, then it needs a reason, otherwise it will lose its morality and will isolate itself from the world until it finally loses its status as a superpower.

It can be said that there is a contradiction between Iran and the United States, but that is only a contradiction between Iran and the United States. It does not matter how the United States sanctions Iran. But Iran does not violate international law. Therefore, the United States has no reason to ask other countries in the world to follow the United States to sanction Iran. Including China.

There is a flaw between the United States and Iran. That is the matter between them. It has nothing to do with our Chinese companies. It is not against international law for PetroChina to take over the equity of France Total.

Some people may ask: Why does France Total want to withdraw from Iran since it does not violate international law?

This issue involves the US sanctions.

The economic sanctions in the United States mainly include two aspects:

First, domestic sanctions;

Second, international sanctions.

The so-called "domestic sanctions" means that any foreign company or company in the United States must abide by the laws of the United States (just as any foreign company in China must abide by Chinese laws). If it violates US laws, it will be sanctioned by the United States. , including freezing its business and assets in the United States.

Total's company in France is a world-class energy company. It is the world's fourth largest oil and gas company with operations in more than 120 countries. Total's assets in the United States are as high as $10 billion, and 90% of its financial business relies on US banks. If the United States imposes sanctions on Total, then the market for Total in the United States will be greatly affected.

PetroChina is also a world-class company with a lot of business in the Middle East, Africa, Latin America, etc., but there is no business in the United States.

Originally, PetroChina could import a little oil from the United States. However, due to the US trade war with China, China’s oil and gas import business from the United States has been completely interrupted. Therefore, CNPC took over the shares of Total, and the United States The law does not impose sanctions on PetroChina.

The so-called "international sanctions" mean any country that violates international law, and will be sanctioned by the world economy. At that time, with the authorization of the United Nations, the United States could impose economic sanctions on any country that violates international law. For example, freeze the dollar settlement business of any business that does business with Iran, and freeze its assets in the US and the world.

In the 1950s, Iran began nuclear energy development activities, so the UN Security Council passed the "most severely imposed" sanctions program in Iran.

Note that in this process, China was forced to vote in favor, this is no way, because at that time Iran was indeed studying nuclear weapons.

Why can the US sanction ZTE?

It is because ZTE is still doing business with Iran when Iran violates international law.

It’s just a matter of doing business, but it was discovered by the United States. Therefore, ZTE’s sanction can only blame its own confidential work.

However, on July 20, 2015, the UN Security Council passed a resolution, Iran promised to abandon research on nuclear weapons, and the world agreed to lift sanctions against Iran.

To this day, Iran has been obeying its commitments and has not continued to conduct research on nuclear weapons. Therefore, the United States has no reason to demand that the international economy impose sanctions on Iran unless it passes the UN Security Council resolutions. That is obviously impossible to pass because Iran has not violated it. International law, so China and Russia will definitely vote against it.

In other words: If the United States wants to impose economic sanctions on Iran, it can only sanction Iran through domestic law and cannot sanction Iran through international law. If countries all over the world do business in the United States, then they must abide by the laws of the United States. If there is no business in the United States, then there is no need to abide by the domestic laws of the United States. There is no reason for the United States to impose international sanctions on related companies.

This is what we often see in the news: China opposes the so-called "long arm jurisdiction" of other countries in accordance with their own domestic laws.

I believe that by analyzing this, everyone will fully understand why the French company should withdraw from Iran, and why PetroChina dared to take over the shares of Total.

The fundamental reason is that France Total has a lot of business in the United States. If it has business with Iran, its business in the United States will be greatly affected. PetroChina has no business in the United States, so even if it does business with Iran, it will not be affected. What impact, the United States has no reason to impose international sanctions on PetroChina.

So, in this case, why did PetroChina and Sinopec suspend oil imports from Iran in November?

The reason is simple: to prevent Trump, the madman, from jumping to the wall.

If the United States really loses its sense of TMD, using US dollar hegemony to impose international sanctions on PetroChina and Sinopec, and freeze its US dollar settlement business, then China will not be able to import oil from Saudi Arabia and other countries. Isn't it fucking?

Therefore, PetroChina and Sinopec are temporarily avoiding the limelight. There are many ways to import oil from Iran.

Of course, if the United States did that, then the dollar hegemony will come to an end. Any country in the world will no longer dare to use the dollar to trade - otherwise it may be sanctioned by the US economy at any time.

We must admit that the credit of the US dollar is still okay so far. The United States has not used US dollar hegemony to impose international sanctions on any country that has not violated international law. For example, Europe and the United States have imposed economic sanctions on Russia, but China continues to work with Russia. Do business.

Iran has not violated international law, so China and India say that there is no problem in continuing to buy oil from Iran. The United States has no way to use international law to sanction China and India. The deadline for November 5 is coming, if the United States cannot stop China and Importing oil from India will have a big impact on the international reputation of the United States.

Therefore, we saw a news today: According to the Associated Press on the 2nd, US Secretary of State Pompeo announced on the same day that the United States will grant Iranian sanctions to eight countries to allow them to continue importing Iranian oil.

Bloomberg quoted two sources familiar with Sino-US negotiations as saying that the four countries that have been identified are China, India, Japan and South Korea, and it is unclear who the other four countries are.

In fact, it is blunt: the United States is only giving itself a step. Even if the United States does not exempt China and India, then China and India will continue to buy oil from Iran. The United States has no choice but to fight its own face.

From this incident we can see that any country that follows the United States will not have any benefit!

France followed the United States and lost the absolute controlling stake in the Iranian gas field. Japan and South Korea followed the United States and stopped buying cheap oil and gas from Iran. Even if they go back, Iran can give them low prices.

This also shows that the US emperor seems to be strong, but it is indeed a "paper tiger."

As Chairman Mao said: All imperialism and reactionaries are paper tigers!

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