Today Democratic Party, Tomorrow Workers' Party !

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The good people of Hong Kong have finally kicked the butts of the weak and spineless Democratic Party which have been kowtowing and sucking to the oppressive Beijing regime, hoping to be a puppet partner in a ‘coalition government’.

Instead, the disappointed people have switched their support to the true Opposition Parties who dare to speak up for them.


2016 GE: 工人黨大敗, 唔關走入PAP?
[video=youtube;d8a2gL_POyk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8a2gL_POyk[/video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8a2gL_POyk


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Politicians will only do their job when they are kept on their toes and know that their fat asses can be booted any time!
 
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The good people of Hong Kong have finally kicked the butts of the weak and spineless Democratic Party which have been kowtowing and sucking to the oppressive Beijing regime, hoping to be a puppet partner in a ‘coalition government’.

Instead, the disappointed people have switched their support to the true Opposition Parties who dare to speak up for them.

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Too many factual errors in just a few brief sentences, bros.

People didn't switch to other opposition parties. They switched back to DAB. If your message is to tell Aljunied voters to return to PAP, spell it out clearly and let us know.

Civic Party didn't speak up for people. They spoke up for foreigners which the HK government had refused residency rights, cumulating into a protest against CP by some anti-foreign activists. But CP still won more seats.
 
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After the 2016 GE, the political analysts:

鷹派抬頭 管治更難
As the True Opposition faction takes over the Workers’ Party, the PAP regime suffers greater difficulty in finding any Vichy collaborators to pass law to control and disregard the voters.
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/news/20120912/00176_090.html

After suffering their heaviest defeat, the shameless Appeasement faction within the Workers’ Party has been wiped out( ‘整個「鴿派」集團一夜分解’). Instead, the Young Turks who believe in true democracy are poised to take over the party( ‘黨內鷹派勢必代之而起,執掌鴿黨’).

Together with other true Oppostition parties, they will stop the government from imposing unpopular policies down the people throat which the previous Vichy Workers’ Party leaders were only too happy to act blur and keep quiet.


立法會選舉今次結果的政治意義與過往不同。
This result of this GE has serious repercussion for the PAP regime, unlike the past….
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/news/20120912/00184_001.html

‘經過上屆立會的拉布戰役,激進派已經找到一條有效途徑,憑着他們幾個人的力量便可阻撓政府政策的推行;反 國民教育運動也展示出在立法會外可能更為有效地迫使政府改變政策。…..單只這兩條便把立法會建制派多數票 的優勢打破’

As the Real Opposition parties have mobilized the public to protest against the unpopular National Conversation, they have also witnessed the how Real Opposition in HK, though in overwhelming minority, had effectively stopped unpopular government legislation thru filibustering.

Using only these 2 methods, they would have effectively shattered the unbroken PAP monopoly over the Parliament….


Towards a REAL First World Parliament…….no more Wayang ‘First World’ Parliament where the WP Vichy MPs only keep quiet and ask frivolous questions…
[video=youtube;8NrZA8tYsnY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NrZA8tYsnY[/video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NrZA8tYsnY

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星期二檔案@ 議會新形勢
Insight: The political outlook in the new parliament after GE2016
[video=youtube;tADf1xZbyYE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tADf1xZbyYE[/video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tADf1xZbyYE


“立法会选举落幕, 民主党大败, 泛民势力重新洗牌。…议会新形势, 激进与保守势力, 拉成均势。”
After the Workers’ Party was thoroughly rejected at the GE2016, the political dynamics among the opposition parties has been realigned……The real Opposition MPs who truly represent the voice of the people will challenge the PAP reactionary MPs in the upcoming Parliament….


On the eve of GE2016:

“各位朋友、街坊, 你们一定要跟我们民主党,向人民力量宣战! 好吗?” – 刘慧卿
“My kakis and zombies, we must declare war against the people power of other Opposition Parties ! You must follow us to invade Tampines, Marine Parade and Tanjong Pagar! OK or not?” – Sylvia 莲.

"民主党两年前跟中联办官员谈判, 又支持通过政改方案, 一直受到人民力量狙击, 批评他们出卖民主。"
"Since GE2011, the Workers’ Party has been ineffective in the Parliament to speak up against PAP unpopular policies while supporting the PAP regime in passing unwelcome major legislations, such as million dollar salary for the Ministers. As such, they have been attacked by other Opposition parties for betraying the people and selling out democratic principles."

“香港不能够没有民主党! 市民不会舍弃民主党! 民主党, 是不会输的!” -何俊仁
“Singapore cannot survive without the Workers’ Party! The people will not dare to vote against the Workers’ Party! The Workers’ Party, will never be defeated!” – Low Keh Khiang.


After the GE2016:

“对这次民主党所受的重创, 我作为民主党的主席, 是需要承担政治的责任。” – 何俊仁
“As the only Driver of the Workers’ Party, I have to accept some small little responsibility for this unprecedented, devastating, crushing electoral defeat,”- Low Keh Khiang.


“民主党给人的感觉, 是一个很严重的老化. 第二就是大家觉得, 他们的抗争手法和现时的社会气氛脱节. 现在我们见到各种争取, 可能大家觉得, 一些较直接冲击、直接挑战政府、不是按常规的做法, 可能更有效。 但民主党对这方面的做法, 其实还是有点抗拒。” - political analyst

“Firstly, the people always have the impression that the Workers’ Party is very obiang and hopelessly Ah-Beng.

Secondly, they feel that the party has been out of touch with their needs and demands. They have believed that by directly challenging the government with unconventional methods, they would be more effective in stopping the government from imposing lousy policies. But WP, as a Co-Driver in the government, dare not oppose their PAP masters directly and forcefully, for fear of forfeiting their chance of being assimilated in a ‘coalition’ government,” – political analyst.


“香港市民做了乖学生很久了。 当然我都是不喜欢吵架, 我都喜欢讲道理。 但当这个政权, 这个政府不讲道理, 你讲的道理讲得多好, 最后都是不听。 市民就要想想, 是否要有一些除了讲道理之外, 有其他方法跟政府抗争。” – (慢必) 陈志全

“The people have been obedient for a very long time. Of course, I also don’t like to quarrel and I like to reason with logic. But, this government has been unreasonable. No matter how hard you try to talk to them, they refuse to listen. So, the people have to think, whether they want to oppose government unpopular policies thru means other than talking and kowtowing to them,” the real Opposition leader.


“他们的得票, 有明显的增长, 议席都有明显的增长。 所以我想他们会觉得, 这个策略是上策, 他们会继续这样做。 其他政党, 就看看你能否承受舆论的压力。 现在的气氛是 和政府商讨, 商讨是没用的, 这个政府, 是欺善怕恶。 你一定要恶, 你在议会内要恶, 你在议会外更加要恶!” - political analyst

“The votes won by other Opposition parties have increased significantly. They have also won more seats in the Parliament. So, they may believe that their strategy of directly challenging the government has been very successful.

As for the Workers’ Party, it depends whether their Vichy leaders are still daring to resist the public opinion and continue to collaborate and Co-Drive with the PAP regime.

Currently, the general perception is such that talking to this government is totally useless. This government only knows how to bully the weak and fear the strong. To deal with this ruffian regime, you must be more fierce than them, not only inside the Parliament but more so outside the Parliament!” – political analyst.

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When I saw the thread title, what came to mind was who had defected from SDP to WP. Hahahaha
 
Too many factual errors in just a few brief sentences, bros.

People didn't switch to other opposition parties. They switched back to DAB. If your message is to tell Aljunied voters to return to PAP, spell it out clearly and let us know.

Civic Party didn't speak up for people. They spoke up for foreigners which the HK government had refused residency rights, cumulating into a protest against CP by some anti-foreign activists. But CP still won more seats.


The Hongkong election is not about choosing who will control the legislative chamber or who will be the biggest party in the chamber, let alone who will form the government.

The election has long been rigged in such a way that the pro-Beijing parties will control the chamber regardless of how the people vote.

The election is more about choosing the kind of Opposition parties that will represent the people. Whether they want a domesticated, ineffective, quiet, compromising, appeasing, Workers’ Party style of Vichy rubber-stamp Opposition ; or they prefer a genuine Opposition who will truly speak up for the people and force the government to change.

The result is very obvious.

If only those Vichy WP MP had spoken up like him in Parliament when PAP try to delay the Hougang By-Election…..Instead the Vichy WP collaborators cowered, shivered and talked like 唯唯诺诺的小人:

HK People Power :你蝦后港人!抗議PAP特衰政府 + WP保皇狗剝奪基本投票權……被趕!
[video=youtube;TPcCk5qNke8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPcCk5qNke8&feature=related[/video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPcCk5qNke8&feature=related


To quote the HK People Power: “ Workers’ Party, 你哋係白痴!…...你哋係PAP嘅狗奴才!... 你哋係政府嘅走狗!.....你哋唔係人!.....工人黨最冇耻!”


The Vichy Workers’ Party self-styled 魏徵 is totally nothing when compared to this HK Mad Dog.

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The election is more about choosing the kind of Opposition parties that will represent the people. Whether they want a domesticated, ineffective, quiet, compromising, appeasing, Workers’ Party style of Vichy rubber-stamp Opposition ; or they prefer a genuine Opposition who will truly speak up for the people and force the government to change.

The result is very obvious.

Same for GE2011 here, and the result is pretty obvious too what kind of opposition party Singaporeans want.
You just have to accept in a mature manner that your views are in the minority.
 
Things aren't stagnant but in constant flux of change.

4 years ago, Hong Kongers voted Democratic Party and made them the biggest opposition party. But 4 years later, the tide has changed, not only against the establishment but also against DP.

Thus, don't be too assuming that what used to be "minority views" could become the "majority views" one day.

Goh Meng Seng

Same for GE2011 here, and the result is pretty obvious too what kind of opposition party Singaporeans want.
You just have to accept in a mature manner that your views are in the minority.
 
Things aren't stagnant but in constant flux of change.

4 years ago, Hong Kongers voted Democratic Party and made them the biggest opposition party. But 4 years later, the tide has changed, not only against the establishment but also against DP.

Thus, don't be too assuming that what used to be "minority views" could become the "majority views" one day.

Goh Meng Seng

Not sure how this became an interesting topic. PAP was popular in the past, lost 4 seats in 1991 and regained them, then lost 6 seats in 2011. SDP won 3 seats in 1991 then lost it all. WP won 1 seat, lost it, won 1 and then 5 seats. But who knows if it will keep the 6 seats and gain more, or lose them all one day. These are theories everyone knows.
 
Things aren't stagnant but in constant flux of change.

4 years ago, Hong Kongers voted Democratic Party and made them the biggest opposition party. But 4 years later, the tide has changed, not only against the establishment but also against DP.

Thus, don't be too assuming that what used to be "minority views" could become the "majority views" one day.

Agreed, but at the moment there is nothing substantial that shows that this is happening. Trying to correlate what has happened in Hong Kong to what will happen in Singapore is a little farfetched. At the moment it doesn't serve as anything but a warning against complacency.
 
Actually the signs are all there, just that you will have to be nimble to notice it. Singaporeans are getting vocal themselves and people are saying things that we would never imagine 20 or even just 10 years ago. This reflect the population sentiments and the yearn for more vocal voices in public policy discourses.

WP is not the only party that enjoys a big swing in votes for last GE. In fact, WP is not the one that enjoy the highest swing in votes even though they have won a GRC due to higher base. But it is precisely due to higher base, their percentage increased in support level is even smaller.

WP enjoys the victory and success is mostly due to the change in voters sentiments and demand for more vocal debates and public policy deliberations cum discourses. So while WP has managed to win a GRC and send more MPs into parliament, but this is a double edged sword. If it fails to meet the expectations of a more vocal electorates, the tide might just turned against them in next GE.

Goh Meng Seng






Agreed, but at the moment there is nothing substantial that shows that this is happening. Trying to correlate what has happened in Hong Kong to what will happen in Singapore is a little farfetched. At the moment it doesn't serve as anything but a warning against complacency.
 
WP enjoys the victory and success is mostly due to the change in voters sentiments and demand for more vocal debates and public policy deliberations cum discourses. So while WP has managed to win a GRC and send more MPs into parliament, but this is a double edged sword. If it fails to meet the expectations of a more vocal electorates, the tide might just turned against them in next GE.

Goh Meng Seng

Change in 'voters sentiments and demand for more vocal debates ........................................' only in Hougang and Aljunied? The one and only reason for WP victory? Please lah, GMS, give credit when it's due.
 
You didn't even read carefully. It is not just Hougang or Aljunied. All over Singapore, there is a big vote swing against PAP due to this change in voters sentiment. It just happened that Aljunied has a higher base than others.

Well, even SDP, perceived to be "firebrand", enjoyed a 10% to 13% increase in vote swing. If you take it as percentage increase in votes, that would be even higher due to lower base.

Goh Meng Seng


Change in 'voters sentiments and demand for more vocal debates ........................................' only in Hougang and Aljunied? The one and only reason for WP victory? Please lah, GMS, give credit when it's due.
 
I guess people here should learn not to see things only in black or white, win or lose, right or wrong. There are really big patches of grey and white spectrum of colors out there.

Imagine if people start to realize that they could be even more vocal than those MPs, especially opposition MPs in parliament and feeling that they could put up much sharper and critical questions, what will happen in next GE?

Goh Meng Seng
 
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