This is an example why I regard nutrition fads and their websites as moronic quacks

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Debunking The Milk Myth: Why Milk Is Bad For You And Your Bones
saveourbones.com/osteoporosis-milk-myth

Milk depletes the calcium from your bones

The milk myth has spread around the world based on the flawed belief that this protein and calcium-rich drink is essential to support good overall health and bone health in particular at any age. It is easy to understand that the confusion about milk’s imaginary benefits stems from the fact that it contains calcium – around 300 mg per cup.

But many scientific studies have shown an assortment of detrimental health effects directly linked to milk consumption. And the most surprising link is that not only do we barely absorb the calcium in cow’s milk (especially if pasteurized), but to make matters worse, it actually increases calcium loss from the bones. What an irony this is!

Here’s how it happens. Like all animal protein, milk acidifies the body pH which in turn triggers a biological correction. You see, calcium is an excellent acid neutralizer and the biggest storage of calcium in the body is – you guessed it… in the bones. So the very same calcium that our bones need to stay strong is utilized to neutralize the acidifying effect of milk. Once calcium is pulled out of the bones, it leaves the body via the urine, so that the surprising net result after this is an actual calcium deficit.

Knowing this, you’ll understand why statistics show that countries with the lowest consumption of dairy products also have the lowest fracture incidence in their population.

This is a classic example why I stay FAR away from nutrition fad websites and other related modern day quacks.

The body maintains its blood at a very narrow pH range through the use of very sophisticated biological buffer solutions. There is no way drinking milk adversely affects the body pH to an extent that causes calcium loss. This is stupid. It is unscientific and only a non-scientifically trained mind will believe such hogwash.

And the next time you quote fucking statistics to "prove" idiotic claims that milk is bad, because your correlation analysis suggests that countries with low consumption of dairy also have low fracture rate, trained statisticians here in SBF will fucking dish out upon you a whole array of selection bias and omitted variable bias that you have committed. Any one of them can tear your fucking nonsense to shreds ANYTIME.

Another classic example of idiocy that "oxygenated water" is good for your health. Are you some kind of fucking fish?

 

[Leongsam]

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I have irrefutable proof that the PAP is good for your health.

 

[Leongsam]

Re: This is an example why I regard nutrition fads and their websites as moronic quac

The biggest frauds of all are those "detox" diets and procedures like colonic cleansing.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Re: This is an example why I regard nutrition fads and their websites as moronic quac

The biggest frauds of all are those "detox" diets and procedures like colonic cleansing.

I know of girls who spend thousands of dollars on sheep placenta pills in order to look young and have supple skin.

I think a better beauty product for them is this Cantonese tonic known as Cream of Sum Yang Gai. Heard it is pretty potent.

 

[eatshitndie]

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I know of girls who spend thousands of dollars on sheep placenta pills in order to look young and have supple skin.

I think a better beauty product for them is this Cantonese tonic known as Cream of Sum Yang Gai. Heard it is pretty potent.

some young guy (sum yong gai or 3 kinds of chicken) is michael jackson's favorite chinese take-in.

 

[rurouni]

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...Cantonese tonic known as Cream of Sum Yang Gai. Heard it is pretty potent.

May I know how young you are?
Younger than 40?

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

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some young guy (sum yong gai or 3 kinds of chicken) is michael jackson's favorite chinese take-in.

Your spelling is the right one! It should be Sum Yong Gai (not Yang). I stand corrected!

 

[scroobal]

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I have no issues if people who are ill try various things but have to draw the line when perfectly normal people get hooked on this train of illusion and placebo rides. Yesterday was cranberry juice, today Chia seeds, tomorrow the bark of a tree. And it will be the same lot, every few months, a new discovery.

Why can't they be like the guys in the Gout thread. There is no remedy for Gout but people are trying their very best to help each other and some have found genuine relief rather than spend money on prescribed medicine which in some cases have no effect. I know someone when he gets the gout attack the misery is pretty obvious so I understand the need to share.

Then we have brain dead idiots that spam utter nonsense and there is nothing wrong with them except for the lack of thinking and possibly laziness preventing doing some physical and recreational work to get fit.

Next comes Vegans / Lifestyle fads and hype gang. Ever see them contribute anything of value in this forum. Just spam. I know of vegans, vegetarians, pescetarians etc who are perfectly nice, contribute like others and are genuine people who will help others and they don't rub people the wrong way. And they don't broadcast to the World either.

And lastly to the TS's point, statistics being misused. It also the favourite tool of the undereducated who have no grasp of science and but trying their best to look intelligent. And they will be the first to provide you with literature from the US and god knows where. The magnetic bed industry had lorry loads of statistics, literature, scientific papers and certification from non-existent Japanese Labs (because people assume that googling in Japanese is difficult) and it still does not work.

Go to any supplement store and ask for literature and they will give it to you. Go to a qualified medical doctor and try asking for literature and statistics?

 

[frenchbriefs]

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So what is ur take on chinese TCM?moron or biggest moron?by the way have u watched andromeda strain?a powerful virus from outerspace that cannot be destroyed by heat or radiation,has a chemical structure that is not carbon based like 99 percent of lifeforms on earth but sulphur based,operates within a narrow band of ph less than 0.3 range,above a screaming collicky baby and below a guy taking medication for stomach ulcer,symptoms are almost instant and deadly,can spread thru air,water and land.designed specifically to wipe out the human race with normal blood ph,if ur ph is out of wack due to some reasons u will be safe.so better drink more milk

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

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I have no issues if people who are ill try various things but have to draw the line when perfectly normal people get hooked on this train of illusion and placebo rides. Yesterday was cranberry juice, today Chia seeds, tomorrow the bark of a tree. And it will be the same lot, every few months, a new discovery.

Why can't they be like the guys in the Gout thread. There is no remedy for Gout but people are trying their very best to help each other and some have found genuine relief rather than spend money on prescribed medicine which in some cases have no effect. I know someone when he gets the gout attack the misery is pretty obvious so I understand the need to share.

This hype/fad thing crosses into gross irresponsibility at times. We've all seen "remedies" for cancer being touted around. What if someone ignorant really had cancer and believed the fad and used it as substitute for chemotherapy?

The more moderate ones will take something that is real, but exaggerate it somewhat to draw attention to their cause. One hot topic is antibiotics being fed to livestock. The real issue is the substandard conditions under which livestock is raised in factory farms and the horrid conditions. Antibiotic overdose is also an issue I believe. I think something needs to be done about that. The anti-antibiotic crowd (what a mouthful) however make spurious complains that there is animal antibiotics in their MacDonalds burger. Have there been actual lab tests done to prove the presence of raw, unmetabolized antibiotics in our burger patties?

Notice also that these groups target only one fast food chain - macdonalds. Burger king, Carl's Junior and Wendy's all use the same kind of meat patties manufactured in an identical manner. Why then target only Macdonalds? The reason I believe is that macdonalds is the most well known brand and hence it is targetted for the attention-grabbing effect.

No one has ever claimed Carl's Junior uses french fries that are not made of real potatoes, nor has anyone written stories about how Burger king's burgers last a year without spoilage.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

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So what is ur take on chinese TCM?moron or biggest moron?by the way have u watched andromeda strain?a powerful virus from outerspace that cannot be destroyed by heat or radiation,has a chemical structure that is not carbon based like 99 percent of lifeforms on earth but sulphur based,operates within a narrow band of ph less than 0.3 range,above a screaming collicky baby and below a guy taking medication for stomach ulcer,symptoms are almost instant and deadly,can spread thru air,water and land.designed specifically to wipe out the human race with normal blood ph,if ur ph is out of wack due to some reasons u will be safe.so better drink more milk

Andromedia strain was a good movie. I should have pirated the VCD when I had the chance.

For something non-science fiction, watch Season 3 of the serial 24 (Jack Bauer, played by Keifer Sutherland). A weaponised virus that kills in 5 hours. I think you'll like that Season.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

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The biggest frauds of all are those "detox" diets and procedures like colonic cleansing.

Both of the above can be achieved by drinking enough plain water daily.

I take two glasses of luke warm water in the morning. Total cost: less than three cents

 

[Leongsam]

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Both of the above can be achieved by drinking enough plain water daily.

I take two glasses of luke warm water in the morning. Total cost: less than three cents

Does the water have to be oxygenated?

What about heavy water? Is it even better when it comes to detoxification?

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

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Does the water have to be oxygenated?

What about heavy water? Is it even better when it comes to detoxification?

If you're a fish, yes, you'd be better of with oxygenated water. Heavy water is water with extra minerals. You can get those by licking a granite rock. I've seen rabbits do it.

 

[Leongsam]

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If you're a fish, yes, you'd be better of with oxygenated water. Heavy water is water with extra minerals. You can get those by licking a granite rock. I've seen rabbits do it.

Heavy water is D₂O

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

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Heavy water is D₂O

I stand corrected.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

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After reading nutritionists websites, I even mix up mineral water and heavy water.

 

[Leongsam]

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Toxicity in humans[edit]

Because it would take a very large amount of heavy water to replace 25% to 50% of a human being's body water (water being in turn 50–75% of body weight[SUP][33][/SUP]) with heavy water, accidental or intentional poisoning with heavy water is unlikely to the point of practical disregard. Poisoning would require that the victim ingest large amounts of heavy water without significant normal water intake for many days to produce any noticeable toxic effects.

Oral doses of heavy water in the range of several grams, as well as heavy oxygen [SUP]18[/SUP]O, are routinely used in human metabolic experiments. See doubly labeled water testing. Since one in about every 6,400 hydrogen atoms is deuterium, a 50 kg human containing 32 kg of body water would normally contain enough deuterium (about 1.1 g) to make 5.5 g of pure heavy water, so roughly this dose is required to double the amount of deuterium in the body.

The American patent U.S. Patent 5,223,269 is for the use of heavy water to treat hypertension (high blood pressure). A loss of blood pressure may partially explain the reported incidence of dizziness upon ingestion of heavy water. However, it is more likely that this symptom can be attributed to altered vestibular function.[SUP][34][/SUP]

 

[Leongsam]

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It's time to raise a glass (of heavy water) to a longer life

By FIONA MACRAE FOR THE DAILY MAIL
UPDATED: 08:39 GMT, 27 November 2008


For centuries mankind has sought the secret of a long and healthy life.

And for centuries it seems we were looking in the wrong place. Forget exotic pills and potions, the key to prolonged life could be as simple as a glass of water. Scientists believe 'heavy water' enriched with a rare form of hydrogen could add as much as ten years to life.

And by also modifying foods, such as steak and eggs, with the hydrogen the way could be cleared to allowing us to eat and drink our way to a healthy old age.

The idea is the brainchild of Mikhail Shchepinov, a former Oxford University scientist


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ss-heavy-water-longer-life.html#ixzz44eN0p6hC

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[Patriot]

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I have irrefutable proof that the PAP is good for your health.