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This has not been posted and I thought I post it here for information and discussion.
http://christopherbalding.com/2012/05/09/the-mess-that-is-singapore-part-i-explaining-the-debt/
http://christopherbalding.com/2012/...apore-part-ii-explaining-the-role-of-the-cpf/
To see the suggested assets in management by these entities, see below:
http://www.temasek.com.sg/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Singapore_Investment_Corporation
I always wonder about the returns and value of the investments in these 2 entities. The so-called returns in the range of 10-20% pa by Temasek amazes me as it is extraordinary, even beating Warren Buffett? If you get this return, you are ranked as a very top fund manager in the world. The point is raised if you read carefully in the articles, the expected portfolio values indicated does not match what is the "claimed" values.
I always go by this rule that a high return means nothing if you do not look at the risk quantum. JPM just announced a big loss of a few billions a couple of days ago, and this again has to do with the high risks employed to get its great returns years prior to this loss. If you look at history of big institutions and funds like Long Term Capital Management, Man Global, Lehman Brothers, AIG etc, the same parallel is seen. They have employed too much risks which turn out to be catastrophic for themselves, and sadly, the world as well.
The recent moves by Temasek and GIC to invest in UBS, Citigroup are examples of big gambles. Although it is said Citigroup turned out to be a gain, yet something has to be said about the risks employed. Is it risky? I personally do find it so. As little is known about overall portfolio, we never really know what actually happen, do we?
http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1549&Itemid=433
Above is a catastrophic loss in an investment, ABC Learning which turned out to be a big write-off. With all the brains in Temasek, they did not get this one right though. So they have done massively well in other areas to generate their so called super returns? Yes, I did take note some good moves. Overall, they are supposed to be superb backed by extraordinary financial brains ..so I expect them not to stumble on this one and some others ...
Take a read, and I, by no means, wish to make a judgement as much is not released publicly by Temasek and GIC concerning what they do. Yet I do have nagging thoughts.
http://christopherbalding.com/2012/05/09/the-mess-that-is-singapore-part-i-explaining-the-debt/
http://christopherbalding.com/2012/...apore-part-ii-explaining-the-role-of-the-cpf/
To see the suggested assets in management by these entities, see below:
http://www.temasek.com.sg/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Singapore_Investment_Corporation
I always wonder about the returns and value of the investments in these 2 entities. The so-called returns in the range of 10-20% pa by Temasek amazes me as it is extraordinary, even beating Warren Buffett? If you get this return, you are ranked as a very top fund manager in the world. The point is raised if you read carefully in the articles, the expected portfolio values indicated does not match what is the "claimed" values.
I always go by this rule that a high return means nothing if you do not look at the risk quantum. JPM just announced a big loss of a few billions a couple of days ago, and this again has to do with the high risks employed to get its great returns years prior to this loss. If you look at history of big institutions and funds like Long Term Capital Management, Man Global, Lehman Brothers, AIG etc, the same parallel is seen. They have employed too much risks which turn out to be catastrophic for themselves, and sadly, the world as well.
The recent moves by Temasek and GIC to invest in UBS, Citigroup are examples of big gambles. Although it is said Citigroup turned out to be a gain, yet something has to be said about the risks employed. Is it risky? I personally do find it so. As little is known about overall portfolio, we never really know what actually happen, do we?
http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1549&Itemid=433
Above is a catastrophic loss in an investment, ABC Learning which turned out to be a big write-off. With all the brains in Temasek, they did not get this one right though. So they have done massively well in other areas to generate their so called super returns? Yes, I did take note some good moves. Overall, they are supposed to be superb backed by extraordinary financial brains ..so I expect them not to stumble on this one and some others ...
Take a read, and I, by no means, wish to make a judgement as much is not released publicly by Temasek and GIC concerning what they do. Yet I do have nagging thoughts.
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