A simple question posed during the TOC session exposed the true nature of the 4 Rambutans.
Question: 'Any review of ISA to prevent depots from misusing it.
NS Dodger Papa Dr Tan fired the first salvo and used the time proven FUD. First he says ISA is needed to deal with vermin. One example he cited was the crazed Norse who shot his fellow Norse as if they were Yankee Moose. TT claims peasants must trust the regime because many lackeys and minions make careful choices to use the blunt tools to deal with miscreants (namely political dissenters).
Loose Cannon Tan JS immediately caught the flaw in TT's logic by immediately citing the victims of recent ISA detentions were directed against political pariahs. TT, using Mindef rascal tactics interjected and reminded Loose Cannon Tan that he is making 'serious' charges.
What followed is a series of school verbal brawls between the moderator, Loose Cannon with Dodger Tan making sly smiles.
Poor peasant gal, her question was never answered.
Is it good to trust the regime with ISA?
When the Brits and Mats were involved, the ISA is deemed workable because the Mats and Brits had to agree on the 'victims' and the Brits will have little patience if the Mats were to pull a fast one and vice versa.
Without the constraints, Old Autocrat was able to subvert ISA and detain anyone he deemed a risk to his regime. Without a system of counter checks and balances, the ISA will become a cheap weapon to be used against dissenters and Peasantpore will denigrate into a Imperial China era city-state.
Dodger Tan claims ISA is good against crazed goons who fires at people. However he missed the ball. In fact with all known deterrence e.g. hanging, no trial detention, Peasantpore has its share of drug smugglers and rabid murderous hoodlums. Therefore Dodger Tan is defending a moving target that has little relevance.
Despite the numbers of Osama wannabes loitering in the streets of Uncle Sam, there has been little support to create Leninist style state control in the West.
Why is this so?
Europeans and Yanks shed blood overthrowing despots and autocrats. They do not want to return to the days where the states could detain anybody for pleasure and fun.
As for Asiatic cultures, Meiji Japan only repeals the silly no trial detentions partly and the Chinks only woke up and removed God Kings in 1911. The concept of controls has not sunk into their psyche and kowtow is still practised. Hence it is futile for the peasant gal to ask the question as many of her peasants simply shrugged their shoulders and exclaim ' Huh what is ISA, catch no ball leh'.
The obvious silence of the other two Tans revealed their lame ducks nature. They may be brave and thump the drum but when it comes to the crunch, they will kowtow to Baba Emperor.
Question: 'Any review of ISA to prevent depots from misusing it.
NS Dodger Papa Dr Tan fired the first salvo and used the time proven FUD. First he says ISA is needed to deal with vermin. One example he cited was the crazed Norse who shot his fellow Norse as if they were Yankee Moose. TT claims peasants must trust the regime because many lackeys and minions make careful choices to use the blunt tools to deal with miscreants (namely political dissenters).
Loose Cannon Tan JS immediately caught the flaw in TT's logic by immediately citing the victims of recent ISA detentions were directed against political pariahs. TT, using Mindef rascal tactics interjected and reminded Loose Cannon Tan that he is making 'serious' charges.
What followed is a series of school verbal brawls between the moderator, Loose Cannon with Dodger Tan making sly smiles.
Poor peasant gal, her question was never answered.
Is it good to trust the regime with ISA?
When the Brits and Mats were involved, the ISA is deemed workable because the Mats and Brits had to agree on the 'victims' and the Brits will have little patience if the Mats were to pull a fast one and vice versa.
Without the constraints, Old Autocrat was able to subvert ISA and detain anyone he deemed a risk to his regime. Without a system of counter checks and balances, the ISA will become a cheap weapon to be used against dissenters and Peasantpore will denigrate into a Imperial China era city-state.
Dodger Tan claims ISA is good against crazed goons who fires at people. However he missed the ball. In fact with all known deterrence e.g. hanging, no trial detention, Peasantpore has its share of drug smugglers and rabid murderous hoodlums. Therefore Dodger Tan is defending a moving target that has little relevance.
Despite the numbers of Osama wannabes loitering in the streets of Uncle Sam, there has been little support to create Leninist style state control in the West.
Why is this so?
Europeans and Yanks shed blood overthrowing despots and autocrats. They do not want to return to the days where the states could detain anybody for pleasure and fun.
As for Asiatic cultures, Meiji Japan only repeals the silly no trial detentions partly and the Chinks only woke up and removed God Kings in 1911. The concept of controls has not sunk into their psyche and kowtow is still practised. Hence it is futile for the peasant gal to ask the question as many of her peasants simply shrugged their shoulders and exclaim ' Huh what is ISA, catch no ball leh'.
The obvious silence of the other two Tans revealed their lame ducks nature. They may be brave and thump the drum but when it comes to the crunch, they will kowtow to Baba Emperor.
