[Singapore] - 2 different F&B owners (Colin Chen and Anthony Yeo) both rant at GrabFood's 35% cut for all orders, "KNN tak boleh tahan!"

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I heard that FoodPanda charges the food vendors the highest commissions (even higher than GrabFood and Deliveroo), which is why for most food stalls on FoodPanda, the price listed is significantly higher than if you buy direct from the food stall. In the past I had asked a couple of food stalls "Why you work with GrabFood and Deliveroo but not FoodPanda?" and their replies were always, "FoodPanda's commission the highest!"

Which brings me to my next point : while Colin Chen & Anthony Yeo's rants help to educate the public (who are mostly ignorant about industry insider info such as this), but the solution is simple : just raise the food prices 135% to list on FoodPanda, GrabFood and Deliveroo. That's what many food vendors (eg. Collin's Common Grill) are already doing. Some food vendors valiantly (or naively) keep to their original 100% pricing (which means the more they sell on these food delivery platforms, the more money they lose), while most vendors charge somewhere in between 100% to 135%, a balance they decide is optimal for their business needs.




Colin Chen's rant on Reddit :


Anthony Yeo's rant on Facebook :
 
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I heard that FoodPanda charges the food vendors the highest commissions (even higher than GrabFood and Deliveroo), which is why for most food stalls on FoodPanda, the price listed is significantly higher than if you buy direct from the food stall. In the past I had asked a couple of food stalls "Why you work with GrabFood and Deliveroo but not FoodPanda?" and their replies were always, "FoodPanda's commission the highest!"

Which brings me to my next point : while Colin Chen & Anthony Yeo's rants help to educate the public (who are mostly ignorant about industry insider info such as this), but the solution is simple : just raise the food prices 135% to list on FoodPanda, GrabFood and Deliveroo. That's what many food vendors (eg. Collin's Common Grill) are already doing. Some food vendors valiantly (or naively) keep to their original 100% pricing (which means the more they sell on these food delivery platforms, the more money they lose), while most vendors charge somewhere in between 100% to 135%, a balance they decide is optimal for their business needs.
 
Obviously the maths is wrong somewhere, why cant the restaurant hire their own delivery team since they claim the food delivery service is charging so much...u raise and pass the cost back to the customer unless your food is really of to die for standard if not nobody will patronize u one...on another note the best, easiest and healthiest way to cook food now is to use a slow cooker...too bad many sgreans cannot live without oily and salty food
 
Singaporeans scrutinize profits of food delivery giants amid COVID-19 crisis
Coconuts Singapore
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A heated discussion of how food delivery services are profiting from the COVID-19 crisis has been swirling online since yesterday.
Sparking some of that discussion has been a Singaporean restaurateur analyzing their practices and a frequent customer demanding they show greater transparency and do more to help consumers and drivers.
Colin Chen, who owns The Refinery in Jalan Besar, published his breakdown of their business models, including the roughly 35% commissions paid by eateries to GrabFood, to argue that restaurants are dying while the three major delivery companies are receiving untold government subsidies.
“I’m not discouraging anyone to use delivery apps, I merely wanted to present what I learnt today and it’s a hell of a wonderful business model to be honest,” Chen wrote online yesterday.
In his widely shared post, Chen included a GrabFood email notifying merchants that the commission would be reduced by up to 5% during the current crisis. He said that wasn’t much help.
“I won’t bother to calculate the savings that the outlet would potentially enjoy from the 5% commission reduction (it’s up to 5% so meaning can be less guys?),” Chen wrote.
GrabFood says on its website that it charges restaurants 30% on every order. A recent Business Times story said the major delivery platforms charge commissions between 20% to 40%.

Meanwhile, frequent delivery customer Ser En Low launched an online petition demanding the companies publish their price and fee structures openly, and channel revenues from any price hikes to their delivery staff, at least during the present crisis.
Ser suspects there has been a hike in delivery charges after realizing she was paying more for her regular orders.
“Looks like the food delivery services are jacking up prices and we are not sure if these are going to the drivers delivering food to us … or are they are making use of this difficult time to make more profits from both consumers and the food stall owners? Shall we sign a petition to do something about it?” she wrote online yesterday, highlighting the lack of transparency in food delivery pricing, including additional “service fees.”
Ser noted that a three-piece chicken tender meal from Popeyes that usually cost her S$8.70 on Foodpanda had risen to S$9.10 after the lockdown began.
A bowl of fishball noodles from KL Traditional Chilli Ban Mee in Paya Lebar via GrabFood went up from about S$5.70 to S$7.
In a statement today, Foodpanda told Coconuts Singapore it has not increased delivery fees and said prices are set by restaurants and hawkers.
Ser said food delivery could no longer be considered an elective luxury four months into a pandemic that has sickened thousands across Singapore.
“Whilst you can say that we can cook at home, to reduce the prices, but not everyone can cook or have the necessary equipment to cook at home. We can also travel to hawker centres and get the food there, but we should also try to reduce going out of our homes, as recommended by our MPs. Especially right now, food delivery to our homes is no longer just a luxury, but a necessity,” she wrote on the page.
With food delivery a common thread in everyone’s stay-home life, others jumped in to take up the topic.
One was a man named Desmond Chua, who visualized Chen’s mathematical breakdown in a graphic. It shows how squeezed vendors are by their overhead costs and need to absorb discounts to gain any visibility in the virtual foodcourts of GrabFood, Foodpanda and Deliveroo.
Those three were the main beneficiaries of a government scheme called the Food Delivery Booster Package, which is a cash subsidy for them to lower their commissions. The amount of money budgeted for the program was not publicly available.
Chen, the restaurant owner, said “numerous F&Bs will soon die because of the Einstein level math as described above.”
Though it did not address the commissions it collects, Foodpanda’s statement said it tries “to ensure all dine-in prices and delivery prices are matching” so customers pay the same as they would in person.
GrabFood did not respond immediately to inquiries sent by Coconuts Singapore.
Deliveroo said earlier this month it was paying its restaurant partners weekly rather than at the end of the month to help them with cash-flow issues. In a recent update to its Australian partners, the company said it could not provide commission relief as the outbreak has been “challenging for all businesses and we’re providing assistance where we can.”
Chen urged Singaporeans to put in a little more effort to cut out the middleman by ordering direct whenever possible.
“For those looking at your delivery apps right now, thinking about what to order in for dinner, supper or whatever meal is it, I encourage you to order directly from your favourite outlets by going to their websites, calling them, WhatsApping them or sliding into their DMS on IG to place your order instead… You could do with the short breath of fresh air,” Chen wrote.
Several people replied to Chen that they were unaware the delivery companies charged such high commissions.
“Well said Colin, I’ve been reliant on food delivery apps and only just found out how much commission they charge (30-45%?). Doesn’t seem fair so for the first time yesterday I ordered directly from the restaurant which had a flat $5 delivery charge,” Facebook user Jeannie Lim said.
“This is why I’ve started a free, non-profit directory Where Got Food? to list all eateries doing their own deliveries islandwide, to combat the high fees from these guys. It’s just not right at this time,” Facebook user Amanda Tee wrote.
Thinking of ordering directly from local food establishments? A number of people have put together information on where and how to do so.
They include the Kudos SG Facebook group, the Singapore Food Promotion and Delivery Facebook group, Dabao.life, WhereGotFood.sg, the Hawkers United – Dabao 2020 Facebook group, and Manyplaces.sg.

https://sg.yahoo.com/news/singaporeans-scrutinize-profits-food-delivery-113037159.html
 
home cooked is the best until you run out of ingredients.
 
that is why F&B business in singapore is so competitive. if you cannot tahan simple overheads like delivery fees, commissions and stall rental then there are other F&B entrepreneurs willing to take your slot.
 
I read somewhere grab already investing in their own kitchen. Soon they eill deliver food onkl from there. It makes sense. Essier to manage your own riders and quality of food delivered.
 
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