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There is a new Civil War risk on MOVING CAPITAL Bangkok.
The Red Shirts wants to fuck the Yellow by moving away capital to the north using the flood excuse.
This will fuck the Bangkok Yellow Shirt camp deeply and benefit the Red camp drastically.
Yellow camp are the businesses and property owners of the Bangkok city, they are fucked worthless to drown dead if capital is moved to the north by Red Camp controlled parliament & govt. Their businesses will die they will starve and their properties will be worthless and they will be drown in flood water.
Red who control North will move capital and building infrastructure to their own territory in the north, e.g. Cheng Mai. They will build new rail road new city new airport new MRT and everything newer and better than Bangkok and make the yellow camp enemy pay tax to fund their projects.
This is a major war. Live & death for most of them.
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http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/politics/266577/opposition-demands-amnesty-inquiry
Opposition demands explanation of amnesty decree
Published: 16/11/2011 at 04:52 PM
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The opposition will on Thursday ask the government to explain to the House of Representatives Tuesday's secret cabinet resolution endorsing a royal decree for non-conditional amnesty for convicts on His Majesty the King's birthday, Democrat chief whip Jurin Laksanavisit said on Wednesday.
It was reported that the decree, which was approved behind closed doors and not explained, would amnesty convicted felons over 60 serving jail sentences of three years or less.
emocrat Party chief whip Jurin Laksanavisit (Photo by Pattanapong Hirunard)
Mr Jurin said it seemed the royal decree was designed specifically to benefit former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who fled the country before the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Holders of Political Positions sentenced him to two years imprisonment in 2008 for abuse of power for helping his then wife Khunying Potjaman Na Pombejra buy state-owned land in the Ratchadaphisek area.
Mr Jurin said after a meeting of opposition whips that the government was required to inform the public whether the cabinet had endorsed the royal decree as reported.
If this was so, the government could be seen as having taken the opportunity to sneakily approve the decree, which is to take effect on Dec 5 after royal approval, for the benefit of just one person at a time when the people of Thailand were distracted by the suffering from the devastating floods.
"Instead of giving priority to helping flood-hit people, the government gives more importance to bringing just one man home," the chief opposition whip said.
Mr Jurin said what was of most concern was the fact that the government had changed the standards of eligibility for seeking royal amnesty.
The normal criteria required that convicts serve some time in jail first and those found guilty of drug and corruption offences were not eligible to seek a royal pardon, but the cabinet had omitted these conditions from the latest decree.
"This shows the government attaches no importance to suppression of corruption. From now on, whoever is convicted of corruption can seek royal amnesty," Mr Jurin said.
The opposition Democrat Party's shadow cabinet also held a meeting today to discuss this matter.
Opposition Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, the Democrat leader, said the decree seeking royal amnesty for convicts was not acceptable to his party in its current form and should be reviewed.
Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra (Photo AFP)
He said the decree was destructive to the rule of law and could bring about another political crisis since it was obviously intended to benefit ousted prime minister Thaksin.
The party would oppose the decree to the end and would demand the government clarify it in the House of Representatives, he said.
The former premier called on the Council of State to examine the draft royal decree carefully, and said Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra should explain clearly to the public whether the government would proceed with this matter.
The Democrat Party believed the matter should and could be reviewed because the process of passing the decree into law was not yet complete, Mr Abhisit said.
Shadow cabinet deputy secretary Buranat Samutarak, a Democrat list MP, said it was obvious that Ms Yingluck intentionally avoided yesterday's cabinet meeting, leaving Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung to chair the meeting on her behalf.
The discussion of the decree at the meeting was held in secret, with all staff ordered out, reports said.
Mr Buranat said most cabinet members kept their mouths shut, refusing to comment, but none of them had denied the amnesty decree had been approved.
Leaving out the prerequisites for being granted amnesty showed a blatant intention by the executive branch to help Thaksin.
This was inappropriate since the matter was taken up for consideration while the people were suffering from the flood, and was also destructive to the rule of law, he said.
"Prime Minister Yingluck can't deny knowing of this matter and must clearly say whether or not she agrees to the passage of the amnesty decree.
"All government agencies concerned including the Cabinet Secretariat, Corrections Department, and Office of the Council of State must clearly outline the substance of the decree to the public.
"The shadow cabinet has asked the opposition whips to seek clarification from the government in the House of Representatives," Mr Buranat said.
Asked whether the decree could lead to renewed public unrest, Mr Buranat did not answer the question directly. He said only that the matter could affect both national security and the rule of law.
The public should first give the government and Prime Minister Yingluck the chance to explain, he said.
Mr Buranat said the attempt by cabinet members to conceal this matter from the public was very unusual and must be clarified.
People's Alliance for Democracy co-leader Sondhi Limthongkul (Photo by Pawat Laopaisarntaksin)
Yellow-shirt key figure Sondhi Limthongkul said the draft royal decree seeking amnesty for Thaksin is intended to break the rule of law and apply pressure on His Majesty the King.
A co-founder of the anti-Thaksin People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD), the media mogul strongly condemned the Pheu Thai-led government for its action in approving the draft decree, saying it was clear that the party was trying to help just one person, and using "dirty" politics to do it.
The PAD would not stand still and do nothing. Its core members were carefully examing the draft decree before holding a meeting to consider the PAD's next moves, he said.
PAD spokesman Panthep Pongpuapan said the yellow-shirt group will meet next week to consider their position. First and second generation leaders will be present.
Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung remained tight-lipped about the details of the royal decree seeking amnesty for convicts on the King's birthday, saying that it is still highly secret.
Mr Chalerm said the draft royal decree is now being considered by a 20-member committee set up by the Justice Ministry.
The government could not interfere in the work of the committee, or give it any instruction.
What is more important is that it is within His Majesty the King's power to decide whether the amnesty decree should be approved, Mr Chalerm said.
He gave an assurance the government would definitely not break the law.
Speaking in defence of the prime minister, Mr Chalerm said she could not attend yesterday's cabinet meeting because she was engaged elsewhere.
It was normal practice for a deputy prime minister to act on behalf of an absent prime minister.
Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung (Photo by Pattanapong Hirunard)
He had to chair the cabinet meeting because Deputy Prime Ministers Kittiratt Na Ranong and Yongyuth Wichaidit were also absent.
Commentators have suggested the prime minister was deliberately absent.
On the opposition's plan to question the government and demand an explanation in the House of Representatives tomorrow, Mr Chalerm said he would study the House meeting regulations to see if he would be able to speak on a matter which is still regarded as secret.
United front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) co-leader Shinawatra Habunpad said it was only right that Thaksin should receive royal amnesty because he was unfairly treated by the assets committee formed by the coup makers.
Mr Shinawatra said the Ratchadaphisek land purchase, for which Thaksin was convicted and sentenced to two years in prison, had not caused any damage to the state.
Khunying Potjaman bought the land through a bidding process and had paid for the full cost, the red-shirt core member said.
He said the land had since been returned to the state and this was proof that the Ratchadaphisek land case was purely political.
He said the cabinet’s resolution yesterday approving a royal amnesty decree that would include Thaksin was not aimed at helping Thaksin, but was for all convicts who are 60 years old and over.
The Red Shirts wants to fuck the Yellow by moving away capital to the north using the flood excuse.
This will fuck the Bangkok Yellow Shirt camp deeply and benefit the Red camp drastically.
Yellow camp are the businesses and property owners of the Bangkok city, they are fucked worthless to drown dead if capital is moved to the north by Red Camp controlled parliament & govt. Their businesses will die they will starve and their properties will be worthless and they will be drown in flood water.
Red who control North will move capital and building infrastructure to their own territory in the north, e.g. Cheng Mai. They will build new rail road new city new airport new MRT and everything newer and better than Bangkok and make the yellow camp enemy pay tax to fund their projects.
This is a major war. Live & death for most of them.
<hr>
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/politics/266577/opposition-demands-amnesty-inquiry
Opposition demands explanation of amnesty decree
Published: 16/11/2011 at 04:52 PM
Online news: Politics
Tweet
The opposition will on Thursday ask the government to explain to the House of Representatives Tuesday's secret cabinet resolution endorsing a royal decree for non-conditional amnesty for convicts on His Majesty the King's birthday, Democrat chief whip Jurin Laksanavisit said on Wednesday.
It was reported that the decree, which was approved behind closed doors and not explained, would amnesty convicted felons over 60 serving jail sentences of three years or less.
emocrat Party chief whip Jurin Laksanavisit (Photo by Pattanapong Hirunard)
Mr Jurin said it seemed the royal decree was designed specifically to benefit former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who fled the country before the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Holders of Political Positions sentenced him to two years imprisonment in 2008 for abuse of power for helping his then wife Khunying Potjaman Na Pombejra buy state-owned land in the Ratchadaphisek area.
Mr Jurin said after a meeting of opposition whips that the government was required to inform the public whether the cabinet had endorsed the royal decree as reported.
If this was so, the government could be seen as having taken the opportunity to sneakily approve the decree, which is to take effect on Dec 5 after royal approval, for the benefit of just one person at a time when the people of Thailand were distracted by the suffering from the devastating floods.
"Instead of giving priority to helping flood-hit people, the government gives more importance to bringing just one man home," the chief opposition whip said.
Mr Jurin said what was of most concern was the fact that the government had changed the standards of eligibility for seeking royal amnesty.
The normal criteria required that convicts serve some time in jail first and those found guilty of drug and corruption offences were not eligible to seek a royal pardon, but the cabinet had omitted these conditions from the latest decree.
"This shows the government attaches no importance to suppression of corruption. From now on, whoever is convicted of corruption can seek royal amnesty," Mr Jurin said.
The opposition Democrat Party's shadow cabinet also held a meeting today to discuss this matter.
Opposition Leader Abhisit Vejjajiva, the Democrat leader, said the decree seeking royal amnesty for convicts was not acceptable to his party in its current form and should be reviewed.
Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra (Photo AFP)
He said the decree was destructive to the rule of law and could bring about another political crisis since it was obviously intended to benefit ousted prime minister Thaksin.
The party would oppose the decree to the end and would demand the government clarify it in the House of Representatives, he said.
The former premier called on the Council of State to examine the draft royal decree carefully, and said Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra should explain clearly to the public whether the government would proceed with this matter.
The Democrat Party believed the matter should and could be reviewed because the process of passing the decree into law was not yet complete, Mr Abhisit said.
Shadow cabinet deputy secretary Buranat Samutarak, a Democrat list MP, said it was obvious that Ms Yingluck intentionally avoided yesterday's cabinet meeting, leaving Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung to chair the meeting on her behalf.
The discussion of the decree at the meeting was held in secret, with all staff ordered out, reports said.
Mr Buranat said most cabinet members kept their mouths shut, refusing to comment, but none of them had denied the amnesty decree had been approved.
Leaving out the prerequisites for being granted amnesty showed a blatant intention by the executive branch to help Thaksin.
This was inappropriate since the matter was taken up for consideration while the people were suffering from the flood, and was also destructive to the rule of law, he said.
"Prime Minister Yingluck can't deny knowing of this matter and must clearly say whether or not she agrees to the passage of the amnesty decree.
"All government agencies concerned including the Cabinet Secretariat, Corrections Department, and Office of the Council of State must clearly outline the substance of the decree to the public.
"The shadow cabinet has asked the opposition whips to seek clarification from the government in the House of Representatives," Mr Buranat said.
Asked whether the decree could lead to renewed public unrest, Mr Buranat did not answer the question directly. He said only that the matter could affect both national security and the rule of law.
The public should first give the government and Prime Minister Yingluck the chance to explain, he said.
Mr Buranat said the attempt by cabinet members to conceal this matter from the public was very unusual and must be clarified.
People's Alliance for Democracy co-leader Sondhi Limthongkul (Photo by Pawat Laopaisarntaksin)
Yellow-shirt key figure Sondhi Limthongkul said the draft royal decree seeking amnesty for Thaksin is intended to break the rule of law and apply pressure on His Majesty the King.
A co-founder of the anti-Thaksin People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD), the media mogul strongly condemned the Pheu Thai-led government for its action in approving the draft decree, saying it was clear that the party was trying to help just one person, and using "dirty" politics to do it.
The PAD would not stand still and do nothing. Its core members were carefully examing the draft decree before holding a meeting to consider the PAD's next moves, he said.
PAD spokesman Panthep Pongpuapan said the yellow-shirt group will meet next week to consider their position. First and second generation leaders will be present.
Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung remained tight-lipped about the details of the royal decree seeking amnesty for convicts on the King's birthday, saying that it is still highly secret.
Mr Chalerm said the draft royal decree is now being considered by a 20-member committee set up by the Justice Ministry.
The government could not interfere in the work of the committee, or give it any instruction.
What is more important is that it is within His Majesty the King's power to decide whether the amnesty decree should be approved, Mr Chalerm said.
He gave an assurance the government would definitely not break the law.
Speaking in defence of the prime minister, Mr Chalerm said she could not attend yesterday's cabinet meeting because she was engaged elsewhere.
It was normal practice for a deputy prime minister to act on behalf of an absent prime minister.
Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung (Photo by Pattanapong Hirunard)
He had to chair the cabinet meeting because Deputy Prime Ministers Kittiratt Na Ranong and Yongyuth Wichaidit were also absent.
Commentators have suggested the prime minister was deliberately absent.
On the opposition's plan to question the government and demand an explanation in the House of Representatives tomorrow, Mr Chalerm said he would study the House meeting regulations to see if he would be able to speak on a matter which is still regarded as secret.
United front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) co-leader Shinawatra Habunpad said it was only right that Thaksin should receive royal amnesty because he was unfairly treated by the assets committee formed by the coup makers.
Mr Shinawatra said the Ratchadaphisek land purchase, for which Thaksin was convicted and sentenced to two years in prison, had not caused any damage to the state.
Khunying Potjaman bought the land through a bidding process and had paid for the full cost, the red-shirt core member said.
He said the land had since been returned to the state and this was proof that the Ratchadaphisek land case was purely political.
He said the cabinet’s resolution yesterday approving a royal amnesty decree that would include Thaksin was not aimed at helping Thaksin, but was for all convicts who are 60 years old and over.
