Salaries - the PM still does not get it

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In other words, the PAP is still clueless, or appears to be so, about the political culture that has swept over this nation leading up to GE2011: A growing desire for social justice and fair play.

As such, it would seem that the political divide that existed before and during the election year is still entrenched. It would be too much to expect a single stroke of ministerial pay cuts to mend the divide, but this particular exercise is not doing anything to help either. If anything, it has thrust into the limelight affirmation that the PAP is elitist, through the various incantations of its, unfortunately, more vocal members, such as Grace Fu and Chan Chun Sing.

But perhaps the last nail in the coffin came from Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong himself. In his Parliament delivery, PM Lee prattled on endlessly about the importance of bringing in good people (i.e. narrative of talent acquisition and retention), scarcely paying attention to citizen angst about whether said people have performed once they have been brought in (i.e. narrative of accountability).

For sure, PM Lee dedicated a segment of his speech to touch on accountability, and indicated that he would not hesitate to sack ministers of they do not perform. But his definition for performance is conditionally couched in two terms – corruption and long-term policy failure. It is thus discernable that our office holders enjoy a high level of tolerance on failure, while their pay is pegged to the private sector, where there is a low tolerance for failure.

Worse, PM Lee dragged out the old warhorse on how citizens can hold their ministers accountable – at the polls every general election. In this political climate, such a narrative calls all of us fools. It is clear that such a system of accountability remains impotent, so long as we retain the GRC system, or we do not get to vote in the Cabinet as a team, as what is done in the US. Yet PM Lee conveniently defers to the value of his ministers as one team.

The plain reality is that no straight-thinking Singaporean will begrudge our politicians their exorbitant pay, so long as the government matched it with extraordinary performance, or else. Have they? And if not, what measures are in place to ensure that those who have failed are taken to task and punished with the same high risk mentality that has justified their high pay? Where is the transparency on ministerial KPIs?

- http://theonlinecitizen.com/2012/01/the-ministerial-pay-debate-that-will-never-be/
 
He asked for Salary committee to review salary of ministers and than kpkb
in parleement?? what's wrong with this guy?

Accept it la, Mr Ee is a real honest citizen ok!! whatever he say *& recommend must be right!
 
Yah.. bringing in good people. The Kate spade type. What a Sinkie disgrace. That is the type of good people they bring in. The one who must for high pay. Real good people dun need to be brought in. They are already been well taken care of by their own capabilities. Good people do not work with sinkie losers like lee hsien loong and ball lickers sinkies like RC members.
 
Dear Frens,

LKY keeps harping on the need to bring in 'Talent' and they must be paid well. My question is this, with the current and previous Ministers. Besides Bargain Hen (which I know off) How many of them were earning Millions in the Private Sector and had to give up their lucrative jobs to become PAP MPs and Ministers?

Like this Chan Chun Seng, Lui Tuck Yew etc, they were are civil serpents on super scale, that is not like earning millions in the private sector, they were paid by the tax payers from the very beginning.

so why do they need to be paid millions and seen as talents when a majority of the ministers were not earning that sort of money in the private sector in the 1st place?

So LKY's high pay demands are nothing but crap anyway
 
NaNBEH, if ministers don't get their millions, this red dot will become a black dot of swampy pool.....a shitty black spot!

so better better pay our ministers millions to satisfy them....or else singapore gone case liao.....anyway it's spiralling down now with ponding.....
 
Dear Frens,

LKY keeps harping on the need to bring in 'Talent' and they must be paid well. My question is this, with the current and previous Ministers. Besides Bargain Hen (which I know off) How many of them were earning Millions in the Private Sector and had to give up their lucrative jobs to become PAP MPs and Ministers?

Like this Chan Chun Seng, Lui Tuck Yew etc, they were are civil serpents on super scale, that is not like earning millions in the private sector, they were paid by the tax payers from the very beginning.

so why do they need to be paid millions and seen as talents when a majority of the ministers were not earning that sort of money in the private sector in the 1st place?

So LKY's high pay demands are nothing but crap anyway

Even if NEH and Shan earned millions in the private sector, it doesn't mean they will be competent ministers. If VB was in private practice, surely he could make more money than as a doc in SGH. But as a minister, he failed glaringly. The late Balaji made millions. He did not make it to minister.
 
Even if NEH and Shan earned millions in the private sector, it doesn't mean they will be competent ministers. If VB was in private practice, surely he could make more money than as a doc in SGH. But as a minister, he failed glaringly. The late Balaji made millions. He did not make it to minister.

So this proves that even if this so called talents earn millions, and paid well in office, they are not worth the money in the 1st place. If the ministers are incompetent they should be gotten rid off in the NQA,,but LHL still keeps them around,,,so the need to have high pay is nothing but a load of bull from LKY,,
 
Frankly, we don't care how much the ministers are paid.

We don't even care who joins politics, or what are their motivations for joining politics.

The real question is: are we, the taxpayers, getting our money's worth?

Now, if we are not getting value for money it is either one (or both) of the following two things:
1) The ministers are overpaid.
2) The ministers are overrated.
 
We don't get it not they don't get it. Papa says, you must pay well, you get it!:D
 
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