Roy Ngerng Files Defence – Restitutions Demands Met, No Case For Defamation

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Source: The Online Citizen

June 17 2014 12:38

Roy Ngerng files defence – restitutions demands met, no case for defamation

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By Andrew Loh

Mr Lee Hsien Loong cannot make a claim of defamation against Mr Roy Ngerng since Mr Ngerng has already admitted that the allegations he made on his blog are false and unfounded.

That is the argument which the lawyer for Mr Ngerng, a blogger being sued by Mr Lee, is asking the court to determine.

Mr Lee is the Prime Minister of Singapore, but is suing Mr Ngerng in his personal capacity.

The lawsuit stems from a blog article which Mr Ngerng had published on 15 May 2014, titled: “Where your CPF money is going: learning from the City Harvest trial”.

In that article, says Mr Lee’s lawyers from law firm Drew and Napier, Mr Ngerng had allegedly accused Mr Lee, who is also the chairman of the Government Investment Corporation of Singapore (GIC), of “criminal misappropriation” of monies from Singapore’s state-run pension fund, the Central Provident Fund (CPF), by comparing the criminal trial of the leaders of City Harvest Church (CHC) with the management of the CPF monies.

The CHC leaders are facing corruption charges in how they managed church funds.

In its letter of demand to Mr Ngerng on 19 May, Mr Lee’s lawyers demanded that Mr Ngerng removed the article in question, issued an apology on his blog site, and to make an offer of compensation to Mr Lee.

Mr Ngerng subsequently acceded to all the demands, including removing four other articles which Mr Lee’s lawyers had also asked to be removed from his blog.

Mr Ngerng also made an offer of S$5,000 as compensation to Mr Lee.

Mr Lee’s lawyers, however, dismissed the amount as “derisory”, and were instructed by Mr Lee to commence legal action on 30 May.

In his defence papers filed on Tuesday, 17 June, lawyer M Ravi, representing Mr Ngerng, argued that there was no case of defamation and no grounds for the aggravated damages Mr Lee is seeking.

The first reason is that the criminal case of the CHC leaders have not been found guilty by the court of corruption charges. Thus, there was no case of defamation when Mr Ngerng compared the CHC trial to the management of the CPF scheme.

“Readers of the article on the blog would have known that the City Harvest Church case was ongoing,” Mr Ngerng’s defence said, “that the criminal charges were denied by the defendants and, while the judge had ruled that there was evidence sufficient for the case to continue (contrary to the submissions made to him), he had not determined that they were ‘guilty’.”

The second reason offered by Mr Ngerng’s defence submission is that the blog article had to be read in context.

“The article referred in some detail to the CPF and the concerns which arose in relation to its management,” it said. “The defendant will refer to the whole of what is said in that part of the article.”

It argued that it “would have been clear to readers” that “principal concerns included the lack of transparency in relation to the manner in which the Singapore Government, MAS, GIC and/or Temasek managed the funds from CPF monies; the question of interest on the money [sic] in the CPF (including how much interest was being accrued and to whose benefit it was being paid or held); the growth of GIC and Temasek as wealth fund managers; and the retirement pension position for the citizens of Singapore. Readers would have read the whole of the article and, accordingly, would have considered the words and images complained of in the context of the whole.”

The third reason, Mr Ngerng lawyer explains, why Mr Lee’s lawsuit is baseless, is because Mr Ngerng had already acceded to the various demands made by Mr Lee, before the legal suit was commenced.

“On 23 May 2014, the defendant published the ‘apology and undertaking’ which the Plaintiff had demanded in the 18 May 2014 letter, on the homepage of his blog,” the defence said.

“The defendant published the wording required by the plaintiff. It is to be inferred that the plaintiff required that form of words as constituting appropriate and sufficient vindication for the publication of the allegation of which he complained. The public apology by the defendant to the plaintiff was unreserved.”

In other words, it was Mr Lee who had sought vindication through the demands, including the removal of the four articles from Mr Ngerng’s blog on 26 May – a week after Mr Lee’s original letter of demand – all of which Mr Ngerng acceded to.

How then could there still be a case of defamation, Mr Ngerng’s defence asked.

Further, Mr Ngerng had also made an offer of compensation which, the defence said, was not “derisory”, contrary to what Mr Lee had claimed.

“[The] amount was based on the defendant’s modest living and income that he derives from working as a health care worker,” the defence said.

Mr Ngerng’s lawyer said that it is Mr Lee who must prove that the offer was “derisory”.

“If he alleges that he is entitled to any greater sum in damages, the Plaintiff is put to proof of the basis upon which such damages are claimed.”

Mr Ngerng’s lawyers also reiterated that Mr Ngerng had accepted that the allegation of “criminal misappropriation” on the part of Mr Lee “was false and without foundation.”

“The Defendant’s public statement to that effect had been published widely,” the defence added. Mr Ngerng has also “undertaken not to publish such an allegation in the future.”

Mr Ngerng’s court submission said:

“The defendant is a person of modest means, who had publicly apologised to the Plaintiff and acknowledged that the allegation about which the Plaintiff complained was false (in wording, and in a manner, required by the Plaintiff), who had given undertakings not to publish such an allegation, and who had agreed to remove material to which the Plaintiff had objected. Yet the Plaintiff rejected the damages offered by the Defendant as ‘derisory’ and has brought this claim against him. It appeared to the Defendant that the Plaintiff was seeking (through pursuing this action against him and seeking damages, including aggravated damages, and costs) to prevent him from expressing his views on the CPF and to impose an unwarranted and unnecessary restriction upon his constitutional right, as a citizen of Singapore, to freedom of speech and expression. The Defendant, in publishing the Article, was seeking to exercise that right on a matter of considerable public interest to the citizens of Singapore.

“In all the circumstances of this case, to pursue a claim against the defendant for damages (including aggravated damages) and legal costs, is unnecessary and unwarranted.”

In summary, the defence is arguing that since Mr Ngerng has already admitted that the allegations are false and unfounded, there is therefore no longer defamation.

And since Mr Ngerng has also already apologised, there is no value in the defamation case anymore, because there is no real and substantive case for the plaintiff.

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All the way , Roy.. !!!! Make Lee Hsien Loong a TOTAL DISGRACE!!!!!
 
All the way , Roy.. !!!! Make Lee Hsien Loong a TOTAL DISGRACE!!!!!


Hang those PAP maggots cockroaches with piano wires from lamp posts to make them dance before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
BBQ those PAP maggots cockroaches before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Cut a few more arseholes into those PAP maggots cockroaches to let out their shit before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Make those PAP maggots cockroaches eat joss sticks and candle wax before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.


PAP is finished.
The stinking glue and terror that hold PAP together is that old fart smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY. LKY is about to die in days or weeks.
LKY will never allow good decent people into the PAP and good decent people will not want to get into the PAP. Those in PAP are the most corrupt and moral degenerates and moral bankrupts and moral filths that are being presented to stinkaporeans as moral compasses.
None of those in PAP work for anyone but that smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY, to help him hold down Singaporeans to screw and fuck hundreds of BILLIONs from us all into smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY stinkapore sovereign funds.
They are there in PAP because LKY know that they are a bunch of self serving greedy bastards and scrapings of scums of society. To call them maggots cockroaches will be to insult real maggots and real cockroaches.


WE ALL ARE NOW WAITING FOR THE DEATH OF LKY IN COMING DAYS OR WEEKS.
WE ALL WILL YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AGAIN AND AGAIN DANCING SINGING ON TABLE TOPS AND STREETS
WE THEN WILL SEE THOSE IN PAP WITH SHARPENED KNIVES HOOTING ARSEHLOON A DOZEN NEW ARSEHOLES AND THE DEATH OF THE ENTIRE LEE KWA CLAN
WE THEN WILL PICK UP PIANO WIRES AND HANG ALL THOSE REMAINING PAP AND THEIR COLLABORATORS FROM LAMP POSTS AND SEE THOSE BASTARDS AND BITCHES DANCE.
AND HAPPINESS WILL RETURN TO OUR LAND.
AND STINKAPORE WILL BECOME SINGAPORE ONCE MORE.
https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en
 
Lee Hsien Loong:

The only thing that should be defamed is your mother's vagina... for squirting out an imbecile such as you. :oIo:

You can't even run this goddamn country properly... and what did you do? Go queue for chicken wings. :rolleyes:
 
Mr Ngerng also made an offer of S$5,000 as compensation to Mr Lee.
Mr Lee’s lawyers, however, dismissed the amount as “derisory”, and were instructed by Mr Lee to commence legal action on 30 May.

The highest paid leader - earning millions annually - in the developed world wants to squeeze an ordinary sinkee for MORE money.

Is that the leader we want for our country? If this is not greed, what is?
 
5k is an insult should be the slogan for any party wanting to run in 2016
 
thanks God that there was no domino effect from the Viet to fight the Thai. Imagine under BG LHL command in SAF how many NSF have to die under this incompetent commander.





The highest paid leader - earning millions annually - in the developed world wants to squeeze an ordinary sinkee for MORE money.

Is that the leader we want for our country? If this is not greed, what is?
 
I doubt if any NS man would fight and die for this rich politician......

He is not worth the life of any Singaporean......
 

Kangaroo court will make this case heard , those kangaroo judges dare not offend their Master :rolleyes:


 
All the way , Roy.. !!!! Make Lee Hsien Loong a TOTAL DISGRACE!!!!!

It is really a DISGRACE..., an outright political disaster.

Now from this perspective...PM LHL has brought a minion, a totally unknown figure Roy, on to the world stage with his suit.

Roy will now have the stage to tear deep and make intense probe into the CPF system, on how it has short-changed the entire nation with its low rates compared to the investment returns it received.

PM is not just fighting a suit against a single blogger..(evidenced by the thousands of donors to Roy )

PM is fighting against a Movement, against a Nation who wants to seek justice for a wrong policy.

I think he and his advisors did not see it from this perspective...
 
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all tuayapeh can sau is this.



I AM VERY HAPPY THAT MY CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE ROY NGERNG FUND HAS BEEN OUT TO GREAT USE....



now where's my popcorn......
 
It is really a DISGRACE..., an outright political disaster.

Now from this perspective...PM LHL has brought a minion, a totally unknown figure Roy, on to the world stage with his suit.

Roy will now have the stage to tear deep and make intense probe into the CPF system, on how it has short-changed the entire nation with its low rates compared to the investment returns it received.

PM is not just fighting a suit against a single blogger..(evidenced by the thousands of donors to Roy )

PM is fighting against a Movement, against a Nation who wants to seek justice for a wrong policy.

I think he and his advisors did not see it from this perspective...


IN TIME PIANO WIRES WILL APPEAR AT STREET CORNERS

AND IN TIME, PAP WILL BE DANGLING AND DANCING UNDER LAMP POSTS








Hang those PAP maggots cockroaches with piano wires from lamp posts to make them dance before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
BBQ those PAP maggots cockroaches before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Cut a few more arseholes into those PAP maggots cockroaches to let out their shit before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Make those PAP maggots cockroaches eat joss sticks and candle wax before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.


PAP is finished.
The stinking glue and terror that hold PAP together is that old fart smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY. LKY is about to die in days or weeks.
LKY will never allow good decent people into the PAP and good decent people will not want to get into the PAP. Those in PAP are the most corrupt and moral degenerates and moral bankrupts and moral filths that are being presented to stinkaporeans as moral compasses.
None of those in PAP work for anyone but that smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY, to help him hold down Singaporeans to screw and fuck hundreds of BILLIONs from us all into smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY stinkapore sovereign funds.
They are there in PAP because LKY know that they are a bunch of self serving greedy bastards and scrapings of scums of society. To call them maggots cockroaches will be to insult real maggots and real cockroaches.


WE ALL ARE NOW WAITING FOR THE DEATH OF LKY IN COMING DAYS OR WEEKS.
WE ALL WILL YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AND YUM SENG AGAIN AND AGAIN DANCING SINGING ON TABLE TOPS AND STREETS
WE THEN WILL SEE THOSE IN PAP WITH SHARPENED KNIVES HOOTING ARSEHLOON A DOZEN NEW ARSEHOLES AND THE DEATH OF THE ENTIRE LEE KWA CLAN
WE THEN WILL PICK UP PIANO WIRES AND HANG ALL THOSE REMAINING PAP AND THEIR COLLABORATORS FROM LAMP POSTS AND SEE THOSE BASTARDS AND BITCHES DANCE.
AND HAPPINESS WILL RETURN TO OUR LAND.
AND STINKAPORE WILL BECOME SINGAPORE ONCE MORE.
https://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en
 
It is really a DISGRACE..., an outright political disaster.

Now from this perspective...PM LHL has brought a minion, a totally unknown figure Roy, on to the world stage with his suit.

Roy will now have the stage to tear deep and make intense probe into the CPF system, on how it has short-changed the entire nation with its low rates compared to the investment returns it received.

PM is not just fighting a suit against a single blogger..(evidenced by the thousands of donors to Roy )

PM is fighting against a Movement, against a Nation who wants to seek justice for a wrong policy.

I think he and his advisors did not see it from this perspective...

There are two main lines of thought regarding this incident.

1) LHL had let his dormant gangster/ghetto side get the better of him (and his 'nice guy' persona) and thus decided to take legal action against Roy.

2) LHL was initially reluctant to take legal action, but someone close to him urged him to do so and make a fine example of Roy.
 
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